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GOP Chairman [Sensenbrenner] Walks Out of Meeting
YAHOO NEWS ^ | 06/10/2005 | JIM ABRAMS

Posted on 06/10/2005 2:05:01 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

WASHINGTON - The Republican chairman walked off with the gavel, leaving Democrats shouting into turned-off microphones at a raucous hearing Friday on the Patriot Act.

The House Judiciary Committee hearing, with the two sides accusing each other of being irresponsible and undemocratic, came as President Bush was urging Congress to renew those sections of the post-Sept. 11 counterterrorism law set to expire in September.

Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., chairman of the panel, abruptly gaveled the meeting to an end and walked out, followed by other Republicans. Sensenbrenner declared that much of the testimony, which veered into debate over the detainees at Guantanamo Bay, was irrelevant.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., protested, raising his voice as his microphone went off, came back on, and went off again.

"We are not besmirching the honor of the United States, we are trying to uphold it," he said.

Democrats asked for the hearing, the 11th the committee has held on the act since April, saying past hearings had been too slanted toward witnesses who supported the law. The four witnesses were from groups, including Amnesty International USA and the American Immigration Lawyers Association, that have questioned the constitutionality of some aspects of the act, which allows law enforcement greater authority to investigate suspected terrorists.

Nadler said Sensenbrenner, one of the authors of the Patriot Act, was "rather rude, cutting everybody off in mid-sentence with an attitude of total hostility."

Tempers flared when Rep. Mike Pence (news, bio, voting record), R-Ind., accused Amnesty International of endangering the lives of Americans in uniform by referring to the prison at Guantanamo Bay as a "gulag." Sensenbrenner didn't allow the Amnesty representative, Chip Pitts, to respond until Nadler raised a "point of decency."

Sensenbrenner's spokesman, Jeff Lungren, said the hearing had lasted two hours and "the chairman was very accommodating, giving members extra time."

James Zogby, president of the Arab American Institute, speaking immediately after Sensenbrenner left, voiced dismay over the proceedings. "I'm troubled about what kind of lesson this gives" to the rest of the world, he told the Democrats remaining in the room.

Senate Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi, in a statement, said the hearing was an example of Republican abuse of power and she would ask House Speaker Dennis Hastert to order an apology from Sensenbrenner.


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Dems caring more about terrorist scumbuckets than they are about protecting the U.S., as usua.
1 posted on 06/10/2005 2:05:02 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

bump for later read.

Thunderstorm brewing here.


2 posted on 06/10/2005 2:07:05 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

If the Dems were embarrassing themselves, the microphone would have been left on, no?


3 posted on 06/10/2005 2:07:52 PM PDT by soupcon
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Nice to see the Republicans not putting up with the Rats bad behavior. There is such a thing as being too nice.


4 posted on 06/10/2005 2:08:14 PM PDT by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

What kind of people take this bug eyed nutjob seriously???????????

5 posted on 06/10/2005 2:08:38 PM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
James Zogby, president of the Arab American Institute, speaking immediately after Sensenbrenner left, voiced dismay over the proceedings.

and just why is this islamist there?

6 posted on 06/10/2005 2:09:14 PM PDT by petercooper (Put Mark Levin on the Supreme Court.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
James Zogby, president of the Arab American Institute, speaking immediately after Sensenbrenner left, voiced dismay over the proceedings. "I'm troubled about what kind of lesson this gives" to the rest of the world, he told the Democrats remaining in the room.

Yeah. "In America, those fools let the Amnesty International lawyers speak. Back home, we simply stand them up against the nearest wall and shoot them. Oh, those stupid decadent infidel Americans!"

7 posted on 06/10/2005 2:09:35 PM PDT by brbethke
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Let's not be naive here.... Unless we understand our enemy, something the democrats obviously fail to do, we will not defeat them. I suggest going to the savage nation http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/ site and view the tortures and beheadings of innocent people by the kind of scumbags now in Guantanamo...it is gut wrenching but after you've watched you realize what with whom we are dealing.

nick


8 posted on 06/10/2005 2:09:59 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner, a Good Man, a Man of Ethics. And Steel Testicles.


9 posted on 06/10/2005 2:10:32 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: teenyelliott

Jennifer Wilbanks


10 posted on 06/10/2005 2:10:36 PM PDT by soupcon
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To: Darth Reagan

lol ping


11 posted on 06/10/2005 2:10:53 PM PDT by marblehead17 (I love it when a plan comes together.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I bet this is picked up on by Brit Hume tonight. While we still have the Patriot Act, let's send some of these seditious traitors down to Gitmo for a while, and get some meaningful legislation passed while they're gone.


12 posted on 06/10/2005 2:11:21 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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Senate Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi, in a statement, said the hearing was an example of Republican abuse of power and she would ask House Speaker Dennis Hastert to order an apology from Sensenbrenner

Its the dems that should apologize for being born. But these Republican chairmen need to get control of the proceedings and the agenda.

13 posted on 06/10/2005 2:11:27 PM PDT by plain talk
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"James Zogby, president of the Arab American Institute, speaking immediately after Sensenbrenner left, voiced dismay over the proceedings. "I'm troubled about what kind of lesson this gives" to the rest of the world, he told the Democrats remaining in the room."

This is an indicator of why Zogby polls cannot be trusted.


14 posted on 06/10/2005 2:11:49 PM PDT by spoiler2
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To: FormerACLUmember

Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner, a Good Man, a Man of Ethics. And Steel Testicles.


Tell him to hold on to the steel testicles; he's gonna need them.


15 posted on 06/10/2005 2:12:05 PM PDT by soupcon
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Democrats asked for the hearing, the 11th the committee has held on the act since April, saying past hearings had been too slanted toward witnesses who supported the law. The four witnesses were from groups, including Amnesty International USA and the American Immigration Lawyers Association, that have questioned the constitutionality of some aspects of the act, which allows law enforcement greater authority to investigate suspected terrorists.

That's about all I need to know. Sensenbrenner gave them two hours to vent their spleen & apparently decided he had better things to do on a Friday afternoon. Can't argue with his decision.

16 posted on 06/10/2005 2:13:34 PM PDT by elli1
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"Senate Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi, in a statement, said the hearing was an example of Republican abuse of power and she would ask House Speaker Dennis Hastert to order an apology from Sensenbrenner." More proof that the democraps have a trash Bush and the USA at every turn agenda ... these democrat bastards don't give a damn about the Patriot Act, but they sure love to trash this nation and this President. Reminds me of children throwing fits, if they can't have their way, they spit on anyone within range. Nadler and Pelosi are prime examples.


17 posted on 06/10/2005 2:13:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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Amnesty International USA and the American Immigration Lawyers Association

You gotta be kidding... I'm not for some of the provisions in the act, I would have walked also.

18 posted on 06/10/2005 2:13:46 PM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: teenyelliott

I don't.


19 posted on 06/10/2005 2:14:10 PM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: Peach

I saw that hearing this morning, it was a hoot!

All the dems and panel wanted to do was talk about Gitmo and Abu Ghraib--so did the panel---

Sensenbrenner got mad, because he said the hearing was supposed to be about the Patriot Act, not Gitmo!


20 posted on 06/10/2005 2:14:43 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: soupcon

Just like the democrats, TEN meetings and they didn't get
the answer THEY wanted, so call in the "expert" witnesses
and demand acceptance of their testimony.

The repubs in this case have nothing to apologize for.


21 posted on 06/10/2005 2:14:46 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Those Dems have no idea how to fight a war -- readily inviting a Trojan horse into their own home and coddling it.

I don't hear any Muslims in the U.S. standing up and saying, "We love America. Here, these are the bad guys and we are not like them". No, they just cry "Unfair, unfair".

We give away education through high school for free to all visitors and illegals in this country. They flock to take advantage of our schools. We are more than generous to all. Yet, the Dems aren't satisfied and want to give them our military as well. Protecting them and not us.


22 posted on 06/10/2005 2:15:02 PM PDT by Kay
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Why a congressional committee in a Republican controlled House would give any airtime to a partisan stridently anti-American pro-terrorist group like Amnesty is beyond me. Why don't they just invite Bin Laden to come and testify against the Patriot Act as long as Amnesty is doing it too?
23 posted on 06/10/2005 2:17:01 PM PDT by rockthecasbah
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To: moose2004

about time the Republicans get some balls and stop putting up with this crap.


24 posted on 06/10/2005 2:17:32 PM PDT by Nyboe (From God we receive both our freedom and morality. A Godless society will have neither.)
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To: Peach

Getting big rain, blitsca and germi* right now.


25 posted on 06/10/2005 2:18:31 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (thunder and lightning)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I am no genius but by reading this one cannot help assuming Amnesty Int'l, the Dems and John Zogby are fighting to make it harder to question terrorists. On the other hand James Sensenbrenner and Mike Pence are on the right (no pun intended) side of the argument.
26 posted on 06/10/2005 2:19:22 PM PDT by slowhand520
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Democrats are just praying, I mean hoping, for another attack on Bushs watch. That's why they will stop at nothing to undermine our security. Because every terrorist cell or suspect that is rounded up in this country, is one less voter and/or contributor to the democrat party.


27 posted on 06/10/2005 2:20:37 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage (It's the borders stupid!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Typical slanted reporting...

11 Paragaphs in the story

8 devoted to Democrat talking points, quotes or blaming Republicans
2 devoted to Republican quotes
1 neutral reporting


28 posted on 06/10/2005 2:21:14 PM PDT by Libertarian444
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To: moose2004
I don't, either. But the amazing thing is that there are elected officials up there in D.C. who actually do.

The woman cannot even close her eyes. She is an absolute horror of a human being, and no smarter than my chair.

It pisses me off that she is even allowed to speak in public, let alone take up the time of my government.

29 posted on 06/10/2005 2:21:23 PM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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Cudos to Sensenbrenner! Usually, it's the dummies who protest and cut people off. He did the right thing. Why are the dummies so supportive of our enemies and so Anti-American?


30 posted on 06/10/2005 2:22:00 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Kill 'em til they're dead! Then, kill 'em again!)
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Tempers flared when Rep. Mike Pence (news, bio, voting record), R-Ind., accused Amnesty International of endangering the lives of Americans in uniform by referring to the prison at Guantanamo Bay as a "gulag." Sensenbrenner didn't allow the Amnesty representative, Chip Pitts, to respond until Nadler raised a "point of decency."
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Atta boy Pence!


31 posted on 06/10/2005 2:22:17 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/charterschoolsexplained.htm)
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To: soupcon

No MRI for him.


32 posted on 06/10/2005 2:22:26 PM PDT by listenhillary (If it ain't broke, it will be after the government tries to fix it)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Senate Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi, in a statement, said the hearing was an example of Republican abuse of power and she would ask House Speaker Dennis Hastert to order an apology from Sensenbrenner.

Hastert to rubber-face...."nuts"

34 posted on 06/10/2005 2:23:17 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo ("When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk!")
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To: traviskicks; Gipper08

pence ping


35 posted on 06/10/2005 2:23:33 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/charterschoolsexplained.htm)
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"Tempers flared when Rep. Mike Pence (news, bio, voting record), R-Ind., accused Amnesty International of endangering the lives of Americans in uniform by referring to the prison at Guantanamo Bay as a "gulag." Sensenbrenner didn't allow the Amnesty representative, Chip Pitts, to respond until Nadler raised a "point of decency."


36 posted on 06/10/2005 2:27:02 PM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

This is one reason why I have affection for the House. They treat Democrats with the respect they deserve. In this instance, they turned their backs and walked out.

If the Democrats have anything of worth to bring to the discussion other than targeting the character of our country, servicemen and worrying about the health of terrorists they'll receive attention. If not, the door is shut.

Ahem. And does anyone wonder why Zogby's polls receive no respect?


37 posted on 06/10/2005 2:27:08 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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They allowed a representative from Amnesty International to testify? I wonder if they questioned the guy about his groups directive for other countries to arrest Bush and other members of the administration and hold them for trial before the International Court?


38 posted on 06/10/2005 2:27:37 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Gipper08

Any valid point of decency would have objected to Nadler's size. Back in NY we used to call him "Waddler".


39 posted on 06/10/2005 2:28:25 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The U.S. Constitution poses no serious threat to our form of government)
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40 posted on 06/10/2005 2:28:29 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Kill 'em til they're dead! Then, kill 'em again!)
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To: petercooper

Good question.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


41 posted on 06/10/2005 2:28:30 PM PDT by Unicorn
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To: DTogo

How about starting with the MSM?

How about Teddy Kennedy? Ried? and al the other dummycrats?

They all belong in jail. They have placed everyone of us in danger by their political games they are playing with the war in Iraq!

82nd ABN 1/508th
"fury from the sky"


42 posted on 06/10/2005 2:29:45 PM PDT by standing united (The second amendment does not stand for the right to hunt, but to over throw a corrupt Gov.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner, a Good Man, a Man of Ethics. And Steel Testicles.

And apparently one of the few Pubbies who understands how phony Democrat political theater works. Don't give the lying scum a public forum!

43 posted on 06/10/2005 2:30:33 PM PDT by Bernard Marx (Don't make the mistake of interpreting my Civility as Servility)
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To: spoiler2
"James Zogby, president of the Arab American Institute, speaking immediately after Sensenbrenner left, voiced dismay over the proceedings. "I'm troubled about what kind of lesson this gives" to the rest of the world, he told the Democrats remaining in the room."

The message to the Muslim World is what this is sending, don't mess with the USA!
44 posted on 06/10/2005 2:31:04 PM PDT by pwatson
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...Nancy Pelosi, in a statement, said the hearing was an example of Republican abuse of power and she would ask House Speaker Dennis Hastert to order an apology from Sensenbrenner.


45 posted on 06/10/2005 2:31:44 PM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner, a Good Man, a Man of Ethics. And Steel Testicles. Tell him to hold on to the steel testicles; he's gonna need them.

Forget the testicles, how is he going to hold on to his lunch, dealing with Jerry Nadler and the rest of the rat stench?

46 posted on 06/10/2005 2:32:16 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: Bushbacker1

Marty Feldman bump... Thanks for the pictoral comparison (as painful as it is to view)!


47 posted on 06/10/2005 2:32:36 PM PDT by Minnesocold
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I saw Jerry Nadler on C-Span not long ago and he said there were three crucial issues in America: abortion rights, affirmation action, and the rights of the accused.

Hello, Jerry, remember 9-11? He's a New York state congressman and yet the War on Terror is not a "crucial issue"? The man is a Left-wing nutcase, living in the imagined glory of 1960s and '70s Liberalism.

Hello, Brooklyn: please don't send this muffin head back to Congress!


48 posted on 06/10/2005 2:33:42 PM PDT by RedRover
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To: spoiler2
James Zogby is the brother of the pollster.

They have an agenda, and it's antithetical to national security.

49 posted on 06/10/2005 2:34:44 PM PDT by OldFriend (MAJOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH.....INSPIRATIONAL)
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Senate Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi

When did ol' bug-eye graduate to the senate?

50 posted on 06/10/2005 2:36:22 PM PDT by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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