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GOP Chairman [Sensenbrenner] Walks Out of Meeting
YAHOO NEWS ^ | 06/10/2005 | JIM ABRAMS

Posted on 06/10/2005 2:05:01 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

WASHINGTON - The Republican chairman walked off with the gavel, leaving Democrats shouting into turned-off microphones at a raucous hearing Friday on the Patriot Act.

The House Judiciary Committee hearing, with the two sides accusing each other of being irresponsible and undemocratic, came as President Bush was urging Congress to renew those sections of the post-Sept. 11 counterterrorism law set to expire in September.

Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., chairman of the panel, abruptly gaveled the meeting to an end and walked out, followed by other Republicans. Sensenbrenner declared that much of the testimony, which veered into debate over the detainees at Guantanamo Bay, was irrelevant.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., protested, raising his voice as his microphone went off, came back on, and went off again.

"We are not besmirching the honor of the United States, we are trying to uphold it," he said.

Democrats asked for the hearing, the 11th the committee has held on the act since April, saying past hearings had been too slanted toward witnesses who supported the law. The four witnesses were from groups, including Amnesty International USA and the American Immigration Lawyers Association, that have questioned the constitutionality of some aspects of the act, which allows law enforcement greater authority to investigate suspected terrorists.

Nadler said Sensenbrenner, one of the authors of the Patriot Act, was "rather rude, cutting everybody off in mid-sentence with an attitude of total hostility."

Tempers flared when Rep. Mike Pence (news, bio, voting record), R-Ind., accused Amnesty International of endangering the lives of Americans in uniform by referring to the prison at Guantanamo Bay as a "gulag." Sensenbrenner didn't allow the Amnesty representative, Chip Pitts, to respond until Nadler raised a "point of decency."

Sensenbrenner's spokesman, Jeff Lungren, said the hearing had lasted two hours and "the chairman was very accommodating, giving members extra time."

James Zogby, president of the Arab American Institute, speaking immediately after Sensenbrenner left, voiced dismay over the proceedings. "I'm troubled about what kind of lesson this gives" to the rest of the world, he told the Democrats remaining in the room.

Senate Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi, in a statement, said the hearing was an example of Republican abuse of power and she would ask House Speaker Dennis Hastert to order an apology from Sensenbrenner.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 109th; gop; meeting; rats; sensenbrenner
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To: teenyelliott

It's Nadler! It's Nadler!

(ref: your tagline)


51 posted on 06/10/2005 2:36:31 PM PDT by lightingguy (Sorry, I got distracted)
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To: standing united

Wen I said "these seditious traitors" you can take from that just about everyone you mentioned, and then some: Kennedy, Pelosi, Reid, Amnesty Int'l, the ACLU, etc.


52 posted on 06/10/2005 2:36:38 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Please alow me to state the obvious... The democrats fart in the room and then always point the finger at the Republicans....it's that simple....

I a sorry if I offended anyone....

53 posted on 06/10/2005 2:38:38 PM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: lightingguy

He looks downright yummy, doesn't he?

54 posted on 06/10/2005 2:40:03 PM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Whereas I am *not* a fan of the Patriot Act, nor did I witness any of the proceedings at the hearing in person or on tape, I can still feel comfortable about the outcome of the meeting because of this little sentence : Senate Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi, in a statement, said the hearing was an example of Republican abuse of power and she would ask House Speaker Dennis Hastert to order an apology from Sensenbrenner. My position on Ted Kennedy is the same thing, if he feels it's bad, it must be good.
55 posted on 06/10/2005 2:45:07 PM PDT by so_real ("The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: FormerACLUmember

My dad's home old home in Waubeka, and the Americanism Museum is in his district.


Good fellow. Made a fortune in plumbing fixtures.


56 posted on 06/10/2005 2:46:22 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (America is gradually becoming the Godless,out-of-control golden-calf scene,in "The Ten Commandments")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Nadler has always been a whining jerk. "Sensenbrenner was rude to me!" Give me a break.


57 posted on 06/10/2005 2:48:53 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (McCain is still scum)
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To: teenyelliott

looks like she's overdue for the botox in that photo


58 posted on 06/10/2005 2:49:26 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (McCain is still scum)
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To: elli1
Y'mean, in the House, they actually work on Fridays? I'm impressed.
59 posted on 06/10/2005 2:51:21 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (McCain is still scum)
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To: TheRightGuy

Good catch! My eyes glaze over when I see her name so I missed it. Typical Yahoo! objectivity.


60 posted on 06/10/2005 2:59:14 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (McCain is still scum)
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To: Fudd Fan

Looks like the lobotomy worked, though.


61 posted on 06/10/2005 3:05:08 PM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

And they are willing to destroy what little is left of the legislative process in order to "get Bush" .... our republic is in deep trouble. Imagine if COINTELPRO had been done right - I would imagine that the number of Lefties now in Congress would have been sent to the graybar hotel for a really, really long time, for subversive activities. Once a subversive, always a subversive.


62 posted on 06/10/2005 3:07:26 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: teenyelliott

The kind that live in my neighborhood. And that is one sad statement. I'm talking, here, about small business people, corporate types, etc. Not only is liberalism a mental disorder, but also, apparently, for some people, contagious. That's my only explanation as to how otherwise seemingly normal people in all other respects would ever want to vote for Mad Nancy.


63 posted on 06/10/2005 3:11:48 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: DTogo

No, not Gitmo. One way tickets to places like their beloved Cuba (the commie part of it, on the other side of the Gitmo perimeter), Iran, the DPRK, the PRC, etc.


64 posted on 06/10/2005 3:13:44 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: slowhand520; kristinn; Carl/NewsMax

They are also trying to set up various situations and a certain political climate so that when they try to impeach Bush, things will be ideal for them. Also, note this - you know the whole Deep Throat buzz? Guess what - they really want to paint the picture of Bush as another Nixon. You read it here first.


65 posted on 06/10/2005 3:17:09 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Txsleuth

I wish I'd gotten to see that, Txsleuth!


66 posted on 06/10/2005 3:20:09 PM PDT by Peach
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To: teenyelliott

Here. Nancy Pelosi (D, Stalingrad on the Pacific) confirms to the public...

A) How many operational brain cells the average DemonRAT has...
B) How many Al Qaeda terror cells she is personally sponsoring...
C) How many times she has blinked since her last face lift.

67 posted on 06/10/2005 3:28:00 PM PDT by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: teenyelliott

Without my glasses on , Ms.Pelosi looks like the runaway bride!!


68 posted on 06/10/2005 3:34:24 PM PDT by antidean
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To: teenyelliott

Without my glasses on , Ms.Pelosi looks like the runaway bride!!


69 posted on 06/10/2005 3:34:32 PM PDT by antidean
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To: Gipper08

I was cheering this morning when Pence said that---I totally enjoyed the whole scene---

I am so glad that Sensenbrenner stopped that hearing---it was a "set-up" by the dems from the first second!


70 posted on 06/10/2005 3:43:33 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

 

71 posted on 06/10/2005 3:45:30 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right, but never in doubt.)
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To: teenyelliott

She just sat on a frozen carrot.


72 posted on 06/10/2005 3:45:48 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
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To: spoiler2

"This is an indicator of why Zogby polls cannot be trusted."



The pollster is John Zogby, not James Zogby. They are brothers, though.


73 posted on 06/10/2005 3:47:59 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Tempers flared when Rep. Mike Pence (news, bio, voting record), R-Ind., accused Amnesty International of endangering the lives of Americans in uniform by referring to the prison at Guantanamo Bay as a "gulag." Sensenbrenner didn't allow the Amnesty representative, Chip Pitts, to respond until Nadler raised a "point of decency."

My MAN PENCE! Kick them in the teeth Mike!

74 posted on 06/10/2005 3:48:46 PM PDT by sausageseller (Look out for the jackbooted spelling police. There! Everywhere!(revised cause the "man" accosted me!)
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To: teenyelliott

Well, after losing 150 pounds or so after his stomach-stapling operation, he's bound to have a lot of loose skin (to go with his annoying personality).


75 posted on 06/10/2005 3:50:01 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Eva

Pitts only brought up ONE subject that has anything to do with the Patriot ACT---and that is the Library problem...

When he was asked by one of the Reps if he could even name ONE person that had been unfairly treated by the FBI because of their library habits, he couldn't---

That was the only time a subject re: the Patriot Act was even discussed...

It was a dem attack on out troops yet again....


76 posted on 06/10/2005 3:50:03 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Soul Seeker

"And does anyone wonder why Zogby's polls receive no respect?"



The pollster is John Zogby, not James Zogby. They are brothers, though.


77 posted on 06/10/2005 3:50:45 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Soul Seeker

THe guy at this hearing was the brother of the Zogby that does the polls....


78 posted on 06/10/2005 3:51:01 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; Txsleuth

I'm aware of that. :-)


79 posted on 06/10/2005 3:54:03 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Peach

Check for replays--tonight or this weekend---it is getting so much publicity, that I am sure C-span will rerun it!!!

Guess who was on the dem panel? Besides Nadler, Jackson Lee, Conyers, ---Brillo Pad Head!!! ( I hope you remember who I am referring to)!!!

Let me know if you don't!


80 posted on 06/10/2005 3:54:30 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Nadler rinds for everyone!


81 posted on 06/10/2005 3:57:01 PM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Soul Seeker

I am so sorry--I should read the whole thread before I post!!!

I just got home and was checking the posts after I posted at my daughter's house..

IMHO--regardless that the Zogby at the hearing was the brother---they see things from identical eyes!!! Therefore, your comment is totally apropos!!!


82 posted on 06/10/2005 3:57:25 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: BooBoo1000

THAT is funny.


83 posted on 06/10/2005 3:57:47 PM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Soul Seeker

I didn't see the first part of Brit's show---did Brian Wilson mention the hearing?


84 posted on 06/10/2005 3:58:19 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: FormerACLUmember
"Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner, a Good Man, a Man of Ethics. And Steel Testicles."

That's gotta be uncomfortable in a Wisconsin winter

85 posted on 06/10/2005 4:01:19 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: Txsleuth

Oh, I know who you're referring to. Aaargh. He makes my skin crawl.

I saw a few seconds on FNC but will keep an eye out on C-Span. The Dems have lost it. Totally lost it.


86 posted on 06/10/2005 4:06:00 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Txsleuth

"Brillo Pad Head!!! ( I hope you remember who I am referring to)!!! "



Who is that? Howard Berman?


87 posted on 06/10/2005 4:06:54 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Txsleuth

It's perfectly right, and you are correct that was my meaning. It has been documented that Zogby (one that does the polls) frequently personalizes his analysis of how "his" people feel about this White House and this war. While some families are clearly separate in their beliefs, I don't believe that is this case with these two brothers.

The Sessenbrennar hearing? yes, in the Grapevine segment I believe.


88 posted on 06/10/2005 4:08:09 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: BooBoo1000

LOL


89 posted on 06/10/2005 4:08:46 PM PDT by m87339 (Squawk: "Plane is rough on Autoland" Response: "Autoland not installed on this equipment")
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To: xsmommy

You got to see #71


90 posted on 06/10/2005 4:10:29 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (June 14th Defeat a Dewine. OH-2 www.gobrinkman.com)
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To: Txsleuth

Oh! O.T. but on the show tonight it was also mentioned the 14 that have made themselves overlords of the senate plan to get together next week to decide how to approach Supreme Court nominations. Funny, people have been telling me that was all decided with this pact. Those fourteen evidently don't think so since they have to have a meeting about it.


91 posted on 06/10/2005 4:11:33 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Soul Seeker; Peach

Peach---the Brillo Pad head that I was talking about was the new woman Rep. from Florida--she has really wavy hair that looks dirty--someone on FR nicknamed her Brillo Pad head...

Anyway---I just checked the C-span schedule and the hearing is scheduled for rebroadcast tonight at 8:15 pm EST.!!!

Anyone who didn't see it---ya'll might want to check it out!


92 posted on 06/10/2005 4:20:56 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Senate Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi, in a statement, said she would ask House Speaker Dennis Hastert to order an apology from Sensenbrenner.

Sensenbrenner: "I'm deeply sorry that Nancy Pelosi is House Minority Leader."

93 posted on 06/10/2005 4:24:31 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Leftists would have no standards at all)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Good for Sensebrenner.

If only the Senate Republicans would ..... but if you don't have them in the first place I guess it is hard to show them.


94 posted on 06/10/2005 4:24:53 PM PDT by sport
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To: TheDon

Well said. Hooray for Sensenbrenner. Too bad this kind of presiding over meetings doesn't infect the Republicans in the Senate.


95 posted on 06/10/2005 4:25:12 PM PDT by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: Txsleuth

I was thinking of Al Sharpton. LOL

I'm setting the VCR right now for the C-Span replay. Thanks so much for the heads up!


96 posted on 06/10/2005 4:26:01 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Soul Seeker

Did you see the Hardball the other night, when Chrissy had almost all of the Gang of 14?

He asked them if they were going to continue as a group to "get more stuff done in the Senate"---I think they all said NO...this was a one time thing...in fact,

John Warner gave a lengthy answer REASSURING the leaders of both parties that they weren't trying to usurp their roles!

I think if they stick their noses in again--even though it pertains to judges, I thing they may end up with some middle finger stuck up their nostrils!!!

I think the reason Warner was SO adamant about it being a ONE time deal, was because he got an earful!


97 posted on 06/10/2005 4:27:58 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The RATS are lost, I mean lost! Talk about wandering in the desert, looney tunes on the fringe........Now is the time for the GOP to (paraphrase Dean Wormer....."Grad the Bull by the Balls.".....) and start acting like Republicans in power.


98 posted on 06/10/2005 4:28:35 PM PDT by WyCoKsRepublican
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To: Txsleuth

Thank you!


99 posted on 06/10/2005 4:29:36 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

These RATS are nuts !I wonder if they're aware of the fact that a terrorist was in the last stages of planning an attack on the Brooklyn bridge that would have cut the ties or cordes that hold it up. IT WAS THE'' PATRIOT ACT ''THAT WAS ABLE TO DISCOVER this evil plot before he could actually do the deed. I bet half these morons have traveled this bridge at some time or another. What is wrong with these stupid Democrats!!??


100 posted on 06/10/2005 4:34:37 PM PDT by Bush gal in LA
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