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`Cinderella Man' does Baer an injustice, some say
Knight Ridder ^ | 6/13

Posted on 06/13/2005 11:06:29 PM PDT by ambrose

Posted on Mon, Jun. 13, 2005

`Cinderella Man' does Baer an injustice, some say

By MARK EMMONS

San Jose Mercury News

SAN JOSE, Calif. - Everyone agrees that James J. Braddock, the hero of ``Cinderella Man,'' was a good guy. But was Max Baer, the man Braddock defeated for the heavyweight title, a villain?

The movie paints Baer as a one-dimensional bad character. But Bert Sugar and Larry Merchant, two longtime observers of the fight trade, say the film does Baer an injustice.

Baer did kill one opponent in the ring. Another later died from boxing injuries, perhaps incurred in part during a fight with Baer. Both Merchant and Sugar also agree the film accurately captures how Baer could be a clown in the ring.

``But he wasn't a bad guy at all,'' said Merchant, an HBO boxing commentator. ``He was one of the predecessors to Muhammad Ali as a guy who loved the media. He was a big, handsome guy who loved the ladies.''

Sugar believes filmmaker Ron Howard needed to make Baer look like a thug so Braddock could be perceived as more gallant.

``The truth didn't work to their end, so they Hollywood-ized the story,'' Sugar said.

Something else doesn't ring true, he added. He called the real Braddock-Baer bout ``the worst heavyweight championship fight in history.'' He said Baer threw the only punch of consequence - and it was by accident. Braddock, a huge underdog, won the close decision by outjabbing Baer.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


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1 posted on 06/13/2005 11:06:29 PM PDT by ambrose
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Wonderful film.

The inaccuracies seem to be about par for the course for a "based on a true story" film.


2 posted on 06/13/2005 11:08:57 PM PDT by ambrose (...)
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To: ambrose

Guess who Max Baer's son is.


3 posted on 06/13/2005 11:13:02 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Jethro Boudine

;)

4 posted on 06/13/2005 11:15:07 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Out of the mainstream..........................and better off for it!!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Jethro?

APf


5 posted on 06/13/2005 11:15:27 PM PDT by APFel (This space for sale or rent)
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To: ambrose

I am currently writing a spec screenplay of a true sports story from a similar time period. You have to create drama. You have to have a good guy and a villain. It's called drama. I don't think Baer looked so bad int he film, just cocky.


6 posted on 06/13/2005 11:15:38 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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I agree. He is portrayed as a surprisingly good sport after losing the fight. Perhaps the author of this piece is applying his own measure of Hollywood creative license in order to have a better story to write.
7 posted on 06/13/2005 11:24:12 PM PDT by Jeff F
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To: ambrose

Baer was not a flat out villain in that film. He was complex. He had a bad side, but the movie has Braddock subtley using Baer's consicence against him so that he would come out weak (IMHO). For example, when Braddock sees the film of Baer killing the guy, he can see the remorse in Baer's posture. He then walks up to the guy and tries to show him that he (Braddock) is a real human being. Baer is really afraid he is going to kill Braddock. He does not want to. A real villain would have exulted in killing people.


8 posted on 06/13/2005 11:30:57 PM PDT by Ahban
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To: ambrose

Howard's film "A Beautiful Mind" was a wonderful movie that had very little to do with the truth either. There were so many errors, made up touches and such in that film it was amazing. Here is just a few for those who know that movie:

There is no such thing as a "ceremony of the pens".

John Nash had a child by a woman he lived with for years. He abandoned him, and the child was given up for foster care. The son with Alicia, in the movie, is also schizophrenic.

There is no speech at the Nobel prize ceremony.

Nash did not draw on windows. It was just a storytelling device.

He got a divorce from Alicia.

He spent years after leaving Alicia banging about Europe, writing home incomprehensible postcards about aliens and Jews.

He supposedly was arrested for indecent exposure in a public bathroom. Can we say homosexual? Alicia says no, but there were was more than one report of Nash's liasons with men.

There's lots more. One thing they did get right (from someone who knows) is what it is like to be married to someone with severe mental illness. In fact, I don't know anyone married to such a person who hasn't had a "phone episode".

I have come to the conclusion that RH just likes to tell good stories. Nothing wrong with that, but don't expect them to be truthful retellings.


9 posted on 06/14/2005 12:13:06 AM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Yes.... I heard Max Baer talk about this movie and his dad on the Rusty Humphreys show last week.
10 posted on 06/14/2005 1:36:28 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: I still care

I agree with your assessment of A Beautiful Mind. I read a biography of Nash after seeing the movie because I was so intrigued. Howard made Nash to appear to be a decent guy with terrible problems; in reality he was NOT a nice person, not a "beautiful" person. He was selfish and self-absorbed as well as mentally ill. Of course the delusions he saw were of aliens and he wrote against Jews so of course he puts a Jewish doctor in to save Nash in the movie. I think Nash was even weirder in real life than depicted in the movie. NOT a likeable person nor someone I would ever admire.

But have you EVER seen a Hollywood movie that was true to historical fact?


11 posted on 06/14/2005 3:29:11 AM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: I still care

Hollywood types have always had a problem with 'reality' and the truth. None of them can see past their noses and are such whores that everything they turn out is flat, without dimension. I think it's because none of them read books. In the early years of film, directors drew from their education and reading. Films had scope and dimension and characters were believable. Now, directors have no intellectual or conceptual frame of reference unique to themselves as individuals so they draw from 'other' films, from everything that has been done already. Making a visual record from the recollection of a visual record is a twice abstracted form of expression and further than ever from art. Film as a cultural expression is by now exhausted. Now, films merely assault our senses and are more and more sensational all the time to draw the uneducated and easily entertained. Bread and circuses.


12 posted on 06/14/2005 5:21:36 AM PDT by SMARTY
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13 posted on 06/14/2005 5:24:21 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (chance is the “magic wand to make not only rabbits but entire universes appear out of nothing.”)
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To: I still care

Another thing...Nash didn't start going nuts until he was 30.

Although he and Alicia divorced early on, they never really "split."


14 posted on 06/14/2005 5:24:53 AM PDT by Guillermo (42% of suicide bombers in Iraq are Saudi and Bush continues to lick their boots)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Max Baer, Jr.?


15 posted on 06/14/2005 5:29:25 AM PDT by rabidralph (Michael Jackson will celebrate at Chuck E. Cheese's)
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