Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Congratulations Michael, now please, get help
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | June 14, 2005

Posted on 06/14/2005 7:32:32 AM PDT by Asphalt

Michael Jackson's fans were cheering and hugging each other Monday outside the courtroom where he was acquitted on all counts in his child molestation case. But it was impossible for us to get excited over the verdict. You could feel relief that this case was over and the 46-year-old "King of Pop" had gotten his day in court, but no number of "not guilty" pronouncements could erase the taint of the "lifestyle" choices that got him into trouble.

As Jackson was driven away in a funereal black vehicle, under the gaze of a now standard-issue helicopter camera, we wondered how he will respond to being freed of accusations some experts were sure he would be convicted of and even those who thought otherwise acknowledged came dangerously close to criminal behavior. Will the owner and aging lost boy of Neverland continue to insist he is pure of heart and spirit, did nothing wrong in sleeping with underage boys and faces no greater challenge than being misunderstood? Or will he respond to his brush with years in prison by facing up to his psychological problems and seeking help for them?

In saying "the healing process must begin," Jesse Jackson may have been talking about recovering from the grueling trial and its coverage. But Michael Jackson has deeper personal issues to deal with -- including, possibly, being in a state of denial. His strange appearance at the courtroom in his pajamas, his stomping on the roof of his SUV, his mystery trips to the E.R. certainly did nothing to establish his stability.

He will live with the knowledge that he owes his freedom to the prosecution's haphazard case as much as his pleas of innocence or any skillful turns by the defense to support them. This was a case, built and rebuilt over a decade by Santa Barbara County District Attorney Thomas Sneddon, undone by prosecution witnesses seemingly hired by the defense. They included a young accuser who kept changing his story; the accuser's mother, who came off as a gold digger and, in allowing him to sleep in Jackson's bed, a derelict parent, and an ex-wife of Jackson's, Debbie Rowe, who was brought in by prosecutors to testify against him but spoke of what a wonderful father he was. This despite being involved in a custody battle with him.

In the end, even as this verdict is applauded for showing you're not guilty until proven so in this country, it will, for some, confirm the notion that celebrities get their way in the justice system. Will Jackson's biggest media moment since "Thriller" recharge his career, which was on an artistic and commercial decline before the molestation charges were raised? Perhaps if he stops blaming other people for his misfortunes and starts taking responsibility for them. But if he continues living in his fantasy world, any buzz from this trial will wear off as fast as cable news can find another scandal to obsess over.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: michaeljackson
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-50 ... 401-450451-500501-550 ... 601-609 next last
To: MizSterious
Near as I can tell, they chose to ignore what evidence there was simply because they didn't like the mother, they didn't like how she dressed, and they were ticked off that she snapped her fingers at them.

But at least they "bonded."

You nailed it!

451 posted on 06/14/2005 1:42:51 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 440 | View Replies]

To: blueblazes
Most of the family has been living off him for so long, they are dependant on him in the future.......hate to break it to them, but it's a great possibility, they will have to support him.

MJ's mother had the gall to ask mj for $250,000 for her brief part in a documentary mj made, or was going to make, some years ago.

452 posted on 06/14/2005 1:44:13 PM PDT by the Deejay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 448 | View Replies]

To: brownsfan

You wrote:"The reasonings for their verdict were perfectly understandable, given the behavior of the mother and the lack of evidence that MJ did anything to her kid."

I didn't follow it that closely, but that's the information I get. Not that MJ is totally innocent, just that there wasn't enough evidence in this one case.

I'm a rebel, especially when it comes to protecting people from filth like this. I would have voted him guilty not because of the preponderance of evidence, but because of the pattern.

My Reply: What pattern? The prosecution called 5 people for lack of a better word prior bad behaviour. 3 out of the 5 denied ever being inappropriately touched by MJJ.
I couldn't have voted to convict either with those conflicts.

Incidently I watched it live over here in France. It was surreal watching it in France, live what was happening in California.


453 posted on 06/14/2005 1:44:51 PM PDT by ExPatInFrance (Terri's Starfish- 1 Mrs. Ora Mae Magouirk, 2 Clara Martinez)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: MizSterious
Basically, what they've said, is, yes, we believe he's molested boys in the past, yes, there is a pattern of behavior of molesting, BUT!.... WE JUST COULDN'T FIND HIM GUILTY!!!

THUD! (my head hitting the desk.)

454 posted on 06/14/2005 1:46:51 PM PDT by the Deejay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 447 | View Replies]

To: blueblazes
MJ's family is totally dysfunctional.

Yes, that's why hearing Germaine & Tito last night, saying what a loving, caring family they are......just did not compute w/what mj has said.

He said the physical and mental abuse was daily life in their family, throughout their growing up years.

455 posted on 06/14/2005 1:50:27 PM PDT by the Deejay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 448 | View Replies]

To: MizSterious

Yes, I thought Nancy did a great job with him. I also thought he looked extremely nervous and shaky when she asked him whether he thought the boy who is now a youth minister was believable. He couldn't give a good answer as to why he didn't think he was credible (but then he said he sorta was.) He was most defensive about this boy. Something tells me a few months from now some of those jurors are going to wake up and realize what they've wrought.


456 posted on 06/14/2005 1:54:08 PM PDT by somerville
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Howlin; blueblazes; xsmommy; MizSterious
Can somebody tell me when EXACTLY Free Republic became loaded with pedophilia defenders?

I don't see that at all. I see people defending our American Legal System, with all it's faults, against a howling mob who wants to lynch Michael Jackson, despite the evidence or lack therof presented in this actual case to this actual jury.

457 posted on 06/14/2005 1:57:55 PM PDT by NathanR (Mexico: So far from God; So close to the USA.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 412 | View Replies]

To: blueblazes
I know these jurors are morons anyway as that's obvious from just listening to them, but they also appear to be Michael Jackson fans (that's probably redundant though) and not terribly literate or well informed.

Naturally. Since they came to a different conclusion from you (even though they were the ones who actually heard all the evidence, or lack of it), they must be morons.

If every potential juror had to be "well informed", our judicial system would grind to a halt.

458 posted on 06/14/2005 2:02:12 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 396 | View Replies]

To: demkicker
And I suppose it's just a coincidence that his privates were accurately described and the same molestation acts were identical on each of the previous kids?

Since he was not on trial for molesting those kids, whether or not his private parts look like a mushroom is irrelevant.

The books of pornographic pictures of children were just all about Peter Pan wanting to be free and naked, huh?

The books were ordinary heterosexual porn, not kiddie porn. He used them to get his victims "aroused".

459 posted on 06/14/2005 2:15:16 PM PDT by NathanR (Mexico: So far from God; So close to the USA.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 449 | View Replies]

To: somerville
I also thought he looked extremely nervous and shaky

He looked like Nancy had exposed him as a liar.

460 posted on 06/14/2005 2:20:46 PM PDT by the Deejay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 456 | View Replies]

To: SweetPrincess
The child's mother was only a scapegoat for the jurors.

Exactly! I think it is possible that jurors could believe that Michael Jackson is very likely a child molester, but that there just wasn't enough evidence to convict in this case. But I don't believe these jurors were that high minded.

Making a clear decision to release a child molester to maintain the integrity of the judicial system would be a wrenching choice to make. Anyone truly faced with that wouldn't go running around on tv giving interviews. If it were me, I'd lock myself in the house for days praying that I made the right choice. And when the molester got to some other kid, I'd blow my brains out.

461 posted on 06/14/2005 2:32:35 PM PDT by Dianna
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 360 | View Replies]

To: NathanR

Wrong... There was a book of naked boys admitted into evidence. It was titled "The Boy".


462 posted on 06/14/2005 2:34:14 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 459 | View Replies]

To: the Deejay

Well, it is my opinion that she exposed him as a liar and extremely weak. I was mortified that they had chosen him as the foreman. It should have been Ray the engineer, who is thoughtful and intelligent and unfortunately allowed himself to be bulldozed by lesser minds.


463 posted on 06/14/2005 2:35:14 PM PDT by somerville
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 460 | View Replies]

To: Dianna

I've seen other child molesters get convicted on less than this. There was a mountain of evidence. I believe that these jurors were intimidated by the celebrity factor, plain and simple. Boy-oh-boy I wish some East Coast jurors had gotten the chance to have a crack at this case. Who knows ? Perhaps one day they will.


464 posted on 06/14/2005 2:37:37 PM PDT by somerville
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 461 | View Replies]

To: the Deejay

Hey, I just read on Drudge that Jackson has been invited to the Live8 concert for a "sensational comeback". They're not too slow in trying to rehab one of their own MSM elite, are they?


465 posted on 06/14/2005 2:39:43 PM PDT by blueblazes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 452 | View Replies]

To: blueblazes

I may be an optimist, but I believe there are a couple of boys who are victims out there who are waiting in the wings. Fueled by anger at this verdict they might, just might, bravely come forward. I refuse to be a cynic (although it would be easier, given this idiotic verdict)

I have been told by a sex crimes detective that an average pedophile molests on average at least 20 kids in his lifetime, and often more.


466 posted on 06/14/2005 2:41:42 PM PDT by somerville
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 370 | View Replies]

To: somerville

I don't agree, alas. I don't think this jury gives a damn. I don't think they care if Jackson was molesting these children or not. I think they'd give him a pass even if he did it right in front of them. I truly don't believe they care. This was an opportunity to stop this man from molesting children, and they let it go. WHy? They just don't care. They'd rather go on TV and try to make some money for themselves. Too much of America has become a nation of crooks , weasels and degenerates.


467 posted on 06/14/2005 2:42:18 PM PDT by blueblazes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 456 | View Replies]

To: sinkspur

If you have actually HEARD these people talking today, I think you would have to be honest and just admit...they ARE morons. Frankly even if they agreed with me, well...I'd be kinder in my verbiage, but these folks are not Mensa candidates. They're a bunch of witless dummies -whether they agree with me or not. A moron is a moron.


468 posted on 06/14/2005 2:43:39 PM PDT by blueblazes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 458 | View Replies]

To: blueblazes
The "reasonable" jury is all over TV claiming they have given MJ a "stern" warning not to do it again. Their rationalizations are pained at best, and silly sounding at worst.

What a farce.
469 posted on 06/14/2005 2:44:54 PM PDT by roses of sharon (,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 465 | View Replies]

To: NathanR

Do you think it's okay for a 45 year old man to admit to sleeping in the same bed with young boys he's not related to? If you do, how could this be stopped? Or should it be stopped?


470 posted on 06/14/2005 2:46:22 PM PDT by blueblazes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 459 | View Replies]

To: blueblazes
Sensational comeback??? With all his back problems and Lord knows what else?

Or will he have a miracle recovery?

471 posted on 06/14/2005 2:47:52 PM PDT by the Deejay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 465 | View Replies]

To: somerville
It should have been Ray the engineer, who is thoughtful and intelligent and unfortunately allowed himself to be bulldozed by lesser minds.

Nobody was "bulldozed." The very first vote taken was unanimous: not guilty on all counts. So all jurors had come to the same conclusion, independently.

472 posted on 06/14/2005 2:49:02 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 463 | View Replies]

To: somerville

There was a lot of evidence. As I've said before, what consistitutes sufficient evidence or proof is entirely subjective and can vary from jury to jury. I don't believe there is any amount of evidence that would have swayed this jury. I think they started off - most of them believing he was not guilty and I think they maintained that belief right to the end. It would not have mattered in the least what evidence the DA presented or not. People have been convicted of molestation on far less evidence and with a far less prominent reputation. Evidence is totally in the mind of the beholder. The bottom line is that Jackson is an open child molester and several members of this jury KNOW that and have ADMITTED that and they let him go anyway when they had sufficient evidence to hold him on at least some of the minor charges. What they did is INDEFENSIBLE, and his future victims lie on their heads.


473 posted on 06/14/2005 2:50:33 PM PDT by blueblazes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 464 | View Replies]

To: roses of sharon
LOL!!! Johnnie Cochran gave mj a warning in 1993.

Ya think mj's going to pay heed to the jury's warning.

Man! That's the funniest thing I've heard from the jury.

474 posted on 06/14/2005 2:51:01 PM PDT by the Deejay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 469 | View Replies]

To: blueblazes
If you have actually HEARD these people talking today, I think you would have to be honest and just admit...they ARE morons.

Well, I didn't hear any of them, but I will not trust your judgement since you are a biased filter.

475 posted on 06/14/2005 2:51:38 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 468 | View Replies]

To: sinkspur

So they are all witless cowardly buffoons. That vote in and of itself PROVES that they had not considered the evidence. HOw many charges were there for them to consider? and on the first vote they all voted not guilty on each charge? That can only mean that they did not actually evaluate the evidence. They went with their own biases, which were in favor of Michael Jackson and had been from Day One.


476 posted on 06/14/2005 2:52:09 PM PDT by blueblazes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 472 | View Replies]

To: somerville

I am a total cynic, both about this case and this country. I think this case shows the degree to which this country has degenerated in terms of what people find acceptable and in terms of the intelligence level of the populace (and the degree to which the legal system has degenerated as well). Even if more victims came forth, do you think that any DA would actually try Jackson again? I don't. In terms of money, and difficulty of finding the funds and finding a jury that is not positively half-witted, I really don't expect to see him tried again. He has been given a free pass to molest children by this jury.


477 posted on 06/14/2005 2:54:16 PM PDT by blueblazes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 466 | View Replies]

To: the Deejay
Is this a Clinton comeback replay?

The DA is Ken Starr, the creepy Christian law enforcer sex obsessed and on a vendetta.

The mother is Linda Tripp, a member of a vast conspiracy with other mothers and children to hurt poor MJ.

Wow, the public, juries and the media are soooo predictable.
478 posted on 06/14/2005 2:57:34 PM PDT by roses of sharon (,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 471 | View Replies]

To: the Deejay

I dunno. I would hope this is the end of this sad piece of crap, but somehow I doubt it. It may be the end of his career in this country as he's just too big a butt of jokes. I mean, how can you make a comeback when most people in the country (except for that jury and some nuts outside the courtroom) believe you're a child molester, and you are the butt of every comedian on TV? I don't think that's going to change. He may be still viable overseas, especially in places where they routinely sell their children to make the rent money, however.


479 posted on 06/14/2005 2:57:46 PM PDT by blueblazes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 471 | View Replies]

To: roses of sharon

Excellent analogy.


480 posted on 06/14/2005 2:58:54 PM PDT by the Deejay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 478 | View Replies]

To: sinkspur

Then go listen to them. I don't think you can fully participate in this debate without hearing some of these morons "discussing" the case. You have to hear it for yourself. And if you're honest, you'll admit that there are few, if any in that group with a triple digit IQ.


481 posted on 06/14/2005 3:00:19 PM PDT by blueblazes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 475 | View Replies]

To: blueblazes

His MO seems to be
hispanic boys.....
so, I'd bet on a
Latin country.


482 posted on 06/14/2005 3:01:08 PM PDT by the Deejay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 479 | View Replies]

To: the Deejay

I agree, it's an excellent analogy. Poor Linda Tripp - pilloried for telling the truth.


483 posted on 06/14/2005 3:01:49 PM PDT by blueblazes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 480 | View Replies]

To: sinkspur

Actually, there seems to be different versions of events among the jurors re: whether they took a straw vote. The foreman insists that they didn't, while others said they did. The fact that they can't agree on such seminal events worries me.


484 posted on 06/14/2005 3:02:14 PM PDT by somerville
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 472 | View Replies]

To: sinkspur

Actually, there seems to be different versions of events among the jurors re: whether they took a straw vote. The foreman insists that they didn't, while others said they did. The fact that they can't agree on such seminal events worries me.


485 posted on 06/14/2005 3:02:22 PM PDT by somerville
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 472 | View Replies]

To: the Deejay

That does seem to be the case. I think that's why he didn't bother Macauley Culkin - blonde white kid, not his type. I think that was just a case of celebrities hanging out. The kids he really goes for seem to be dark Hispanic types. Maybe he'll start becoming an advocate for Aztlan.


486 posted on 06/14/2005 3:02:57 PM PDT by blueblazes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 482 | View Replies]

To: blueblazes
You have to hear it for yourself. And if you're honest, you'll admit that there are few, if any in that group with a triple digit IQ.

You say that because they disagree with you.

You would never have been selected for an MJ jury in the first place, due to your extreme bias.

487 posted on 06/14/2005 3:05:46 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 481 | View Replies]

To: somerville

I would say with that fantastic "boy-trap" (Neverland), that Jackson might very well molest more than 20 in his lifetime. Just my hunch.


488 posted on 06/14/2005 3:08:12 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 466 | View Replies]

To: roses of sharon

And don't forget--Jackson used Pelican's services before he got locked up--think he continued to use his firm without Pelicano once he was locked up. Many similarities!


489 posted on 06/14/2005 3:10:56 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 478 | View Replies]

To: sinkspur

I dunno about that. How about these people being biased in FAVOR of MIchael Jackson from the outset. DO you think that several of these jurors (6 I heard) who describe themselves as fans of MJ, should have been seated as jurors? Is that okay? Should that old broad who has the sex offender grandson have been seated? How about people who have been to Neverland - should they have been seated?

The bottom line - which you seem to keep eluding - is that Michael Jackson is a 45-46 year old single man who has admitted that he routinely sleeps with young boys who are unrelated to him in the same bed? Should this be allowed? How is this to be stopped? SHould it be stopped. I say it is unacceptable - the mere fact that he does this and has admitted it publicly PROVES that he is most assuredly a child molester as what else would a grown man be doing with these children in his bed all the time? Can you actually defend this practice? Because that's what it comes down to. It doesn't come down to me assuming or thinking or guessing anything about Michael Jackson. It comes down to what he has personally said and done. He should be stopped. This jury had a chance to do that and didn't. Several of them have admitted that they believe he IS a child molester. And yet they let him go. His future victims are on their heads.


490 posted on 06/14/2005 3:11:37 PM PDT by blueblazes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 487 | View Replies]

To: somerville

Sounds like someone's lying--wait, isn't that why they voted "not guilty"--because they felt the mother was lying? Uh oh. Double standard.


491 posted on 06/14/2005 3:12:28 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 484 | View Replies]

To: blueblazes

I actually think that Jackson did "bother" Culkin. I have a hunch Culkin was lying. Watch for his wall of denial to crack in a few years.


492 posted on 06/14/2005 3:14:28 PM PDT by somerville
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 486 | View Replies]

To: blueblazes
DO you think that several of these jurors (6 I heard) who describe themselves as fans of MJ, should have been seated as jurors? Is that okay?

DA Sneddon must have thought so, since he could have struck them, but didn't.

Should this be allowed? How is this to be stopped?

If Jackson is so prolix in his pedophilia, there have to be other victims who don't have gold-digging mothers. Go find them and encourage them to come forward.

493 posted on 06/14/2005 3:16:17 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 490 | View Replies]

To: MizSterious
The perfect bait and switch, how does this work over and over?

The President of the United States vs a secretary

MJ, international billionaire celeb, vs a welfare mother
494 posted on 06/14/2005 3:16:46 PM PDT by roses of sharon (,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 489 | View Replies]

To: somerville

I wouldn't be surprised. It sometimes takes decades for people to be able to deal with these types of issues. Look at how long it took many of the victims of the pedophile priests to come forward. The other issue that many of these young victims may be dealing with is that Jackson is a man and they may be afraid of coming out as gay, or as being seen as gay. This would be an additional problem or stigma for many of them, especially in the Hispanic culture, which I understand is very conservative in this regard.


495 posted on 06/14/2005 3:16:51 PM PDT by blueblazes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 492 | View Replies]

To: sinkspur

I'm sure that like the ones he bought off, others will come forward over time. He'll probably buy them off too as most of them would probably want money rather than a trial considering how painful a trial would be and what the end result of this one was. Furthermore, the kinds of parents who would take a child to Neverland have to be pretty dysfunctional at this point and it pretty much amounts to pimping your kid. He'll have some more paydays to make.


496 posted on 06/14/2005 3:19:02 PM PDT by blueblazes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 493 | View Replies]

To: blueblazes

You're absolutely on target about victims being afraid to come forward for fear of being branded as gay. I have a friend who is straight who was molested by a child psychiatrist as a kid. The main reason he was afraid to come forward was because he thought people would think he was gay. Luckily he has overcome that. There is going to be a trial against this child psychiatrist in - yikes - California next month. There are six other victims that we know of and once the news starts covering it, we expect many more to come forward.


497 posted on 06/14/2005 3:19:45 PM PDT by somerville
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 495 | View Replies]

To: somerville
The foreman insists that they didn't, while others said they did. The fact that they can't agree on such seminal events worries me.

Yeah, I caught that, too. I don't think they know what a "Straw vote" is.

The more they talk..... the more I don't think they took any votes.

They just filled in the verdict documents.

498 posted on 06/14/2005 3:21:25 PM PDT by the Deejay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 484 | View Replies]

To: somerville

Interestingly enough, this is one aspect of this case I almost never hear mentioned. Yes, I know most pedophiles aren't gay and most gays are not pedophiles, but in this case we ARE talking about a gay pedophile, and that would make it even more difficult for his victims to come forward. Either they might label themselves as gay when they don't want to be seen that way, or they might not want to "out" themselves if they are.


499 posted on 06/14/2005 3:22:27 PM PDT by blueblazes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 497 | View Replies]

To: blueblazes

Come forward and be destroyed by the MJ machine? Never.

Very, very, sad day for any past or future little boys that MJ might decide deserve his "love".


500 posted on 06/14/2005 3:22:54 PM PDT by roses of sharon (,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 496 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-50 ... 401-450451-500501-550 ... 601-609 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson