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Terri Schiavo Autopsy: Manner of Death 'Undetermined'
CNSNews.com ^ | June 15, 2005 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 06/15/2005 12:27:19 PM PDT by veronica

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To: veronica; Admin Moderator

Hasn't this news already been posted on several other threads?


21 posted on 06/15/2005 12:51:25 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: conservative blonde
Her brain was deprived of oxygen for a reason. What was the reason?

Apparently unless Michael tells, we will never know what happened. My guess is that she was suffocated with a pillow or a large hand over her nose and mouth while she was asleep. That method usually leaves little evidence outside of possible mouth wounds and/or inhaled pillow fibers. Since the original event was not treated as a crime scene, this sort of evidence wouldn't have been noticed much less followed up on.

22 posted on 06/15/2005 12:51:34 PM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: Bombardier

I should point out that Bill Pryor was one of the 11th circuit judges who refused to hear the case, and he's certainly no euthanasia activist.


23 posted on 06/15/2005 12:51:55 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (If you want Siegelman to win a 2nd term, by all means, vote for Roy Moore in the primary)
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To: BubbaJunebug

The case is over, but the many questions, both ethical and legal that it raised remain worthy of discussion. One hopes adults can discuss these issues without setting their hair on fire or spewing venom.


24 posted on 06/15/2005 12:52:07 PM PDT by veronica
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To: BubbaJunebug

I seem to recall that the examiner was going to have an "observer" in on the autopsy, but at the last minute forbade any observation. It is not unusual to have bystanders and witnesses at an autopsy--and if an examiner wants to cover his rear for any reason, it's a real good idea for him to have witnesses. If I had been the examiner, I would have wanted a roomful for this contentious case.


25 posted on 06/15/2005 12:53:30 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: veronica

The Medical Examiner convinced me that I got this one wrong.

Live and learn.


26 posted on 06/15/2005 12:54:01 PM PDT by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (The UN did such a fine job with "Oil for Food" in Iraq, let's let them run the whole country!)
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To: mountaineer

Newsflash...You can do now medical exams on people while they're alive. You do them in places called "hospitals."

Starving and dehydrating her to examine her is about as smart as the middle ages pracice of bleeding a person to death to heal them.

But it makes sense to your stunted mind I'm sure.


27 posted on 06/15/2005 12:54:28 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: An American In Dairyland

I do believe she was very concerned with staying thin and as result could have suffered a severe loss of potassium. That's fairly common among thin-at-all-cost dieters.


28 posted on 06/15/2005 12:54:48 PM PDT by veronica
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To: BubbaJunebug

Actually, why not? The Pinellas County ME before this one, Dr. Joan Wood, was forced to resign because of her incompetence and/or corruption in the death of a Scientology member. There is a precedent.


29 posted on 06/15/2005 12:55:17 PM PDT by blueblazes
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To: blueblazes

I like that quote. It really fits.


30 posted on 06/15/2005 12:55:40 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (Memo to FatTed: Mary Jo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
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To: BubbaJunebug

You amaze us all . Are you in the good ole boys club down there in "chad" land . YES the fix was in !!!


31 posted on 06/15/2005 12:58:08 PM PDT by lionheart 247365 (( I.S.L.A.M. ; ) Islam's Spiritual Leaders Advocate Murder .. .. .. ))
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To: spycatcher
Newsflash...You can do now medical exams on people while they're alive. You do them in places called "hospitals."

Wouldn't an MRI have told the tale of the condition of her brain?

32 posted on 06/15/2005 12:59:08 PM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica

""The courts have found that there was no abuse of Terri, no evidence of abuse, and that's what the medical examiner found," Felos said."


IMO, this isn't even the question. The question is a) letting a man w/virtually no evidence of his own continue on as guardian and even worse b) allow him on this flimsy evidence to euthanize her.

Even worse, "euthanize" via dehydration, et al. Basic needs which took a few weeks to take her, not a short hour or so.


33 posted on 06/15/2005 1:00:28 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: fooman

"Remember the lost Xrays of foster? Until we see the xrays of her entire body on the internet, I say the fix is in."

They made 247 images. Which ones do you need?


34 posted on 06/15/2005 1:00:30 PM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: Mamzelle

What the ME has accomplished in this case by refusing to have an independent observer in the room, is to simply leave the case perpetually open. Nothing has been changed or accomplished by the autopsy. Even if he is correct in his findings, he is not credible because Pinellas County has been so rife with corruption even before the Schiavo case.


35 posted on 06/15/2005 1:01:37 PM PDT by blueblazes
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To: conservative blonde
"Where did those xrays of broken bones we were told about go to?"

They did not exist. What was flaunted so obscenely here was a bone *scan* (showing what the MI told y'all today) and an edited deposition by one of the radiologists.

We'd been trying to tell y'all these things for months, but we were shunned for bringing up those supposedly irrelevant (but actually just pesky) *facts*, so they could feed you blatant lies without contradiction.

Speaks volumes about the integrity of the bone scammers, IMO.
36 posted on 06/15/2005 1:01:53 PM PDT by Trinity_Tx (9/9/2000) I'd rather be uncertain in my pursuit of truth than certain in my defense of a falsehood)
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To: veronica

"Michael Schiavo was awarded nearly $2 million in judgments and settlements in a medical malpractice lawsuit claiming that the collapse was caused by a heart attack triggered by a potassium imbalance, caused by an undiagnosed eating disorder, bulimia nervosa. Thogmartin challenged that determination."


While the Terri nay-sayers love to state that this report shows Michael did nothing wrong, they conveniently ignored this heart-attack part which he claimed. Or was MS just assuming it was a HR?


37 posted on 06/15/2005 1:02:40 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: spycatcher

She was examined many, many times by medical doctors while alive, but you seem to be unaware of that fact. If it makes you feel better about your ignorance to call me names in the manner of a 10-year-old child, have at it.


38 posted on 06/15/2005 1:04:00 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: the OlLine Rebel

We agree.


39 posted on 06/15/2005 1:04:08 PM PDT by veronica (Mimes and clowns are weird...)
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To: mountaineer
This official autopsy is so Orwellian.

In what way?

The woman died as a result of having a feeding tube removed. Unless "Undetermined" is defined as "starvation/dehydration as a result of removal of a feeding tube," I'd have to agree that Orwellian fits the description of this report.

40 posted on 06/15/2005 1:05:30 PM PDT by reformed_democrat
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