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AROUND THE NATION, A RISING TIDE: COMMUNITIES CLAMOR FOR ACTION ON GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION
Brady Campaign ^ | 6-15-05

Posted on 06/18/2005 11:04:06 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan

AROUND THE NATION, A RISING TIDE:COMMUNITIES CLAMOR FOR ACTION ON GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION

In Duluth, Minnesota this afternoon, the bells will be ringing. Duluth's citizens are not alone in demanding action.

Washington D.C. – In states throughout the nation, the extreme gun lobby and their willing accomplices in public office are getting stiff reactions to their hard-headed refusal to support reasonable steps to protect the safety of American families.

Some of those responses:

In Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Monday, two Senators received a frosty reception for offering no genuine response to combating what has been a terrible year of gun violence.

In Illinois, a Governor who was dared and threatened by the gun industry is slamming the door on the gun show loophole, which allows criminals, spousal abusers and potential terrorists to arm themselves without a background check.

In California, groundbreaking new crime detection tools are being proposed that would help law enforcement use bullet shells to track down and prosecute gun criminals.

And in Duluth, Minnesota, community leaders will chime a bell this afternoon for the children lost at the Red Lake Indian Reservation, the four-year-old killed by a target shooter in a tragic accident, and a father of three who died in a bar at the hands of a bully with a concealed handgun permit.

"The voices of the American people are getting louder in demanding action to combat gun violence," said Mike Barnes, President of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. "The people are ahead of the politicians – but smart politicians would be well advised to listen to the rising voices."

"The voices of the American people are getting louder in demanding action to combat gun violence," said Mike Barnes, President of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. "The people are ahead of the politicians – but smart politicians would be well advised to listen to the rising voices."A case in point: Pennsylvania's Senators, Arlen Specter and Rick Santorum, Monday staged a field hearing of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which Specter chairs. The hearing was little more than a photo op for Santorum, who faces a difficult re-election next year. The Senators were greeted with a newspaper editorial that read "if Santorum and Specter side with the gun lobby, then they should stick around after their hearing for the next funeral of a child who has died from being shot." News coverage of the event was dominated with commentary about efforts to stem gun violence, which Specter and Santorum refused to support.

"I don't think they got the reception they expected," said Barbara Montgomery, President of the Pennsylvania Million Mom March Chapters. "But they got the reception they deserved."

In America's heartland, the chief lobbyist of the National Rifle Association in Illinois tried to force Governor Rod Blagojevich to accept destruction of vital law enforcement records as the price tag for protecting citizens from gun purchases by criminals. But the Governor turned the tables on the NRA and helped ensure the passage of a clean bill that closed the loophole without destroying the records. "Our police will be able to continue using the firearm purchase database to protect their officers and track down illegal gun dealers; and people who want to purchase firearms at gun shows in Illinois will go through the same important background checks as people who buy from licensed retail dealers," Governor Blagojevich said.

"What happened in the State Capitol was the people won, and the extremists lost," said Tom Vanden Berk, Chicago Survivors Million Mom March Chapter leader.

Meanwhile, state legislators in California are moving closer to passage of a law that would give law enforcement investigators a remarkably promising new technological tool in crime investigation, with two separate approaches to tagging ammunition that would lead police to the purchasers of guns and ammo. The California Department of Justice is spearheading advocacy of the bills. Griffin Dix, President of the California Million Mom March Chapters, said the technology would "help police solve thousands of handgun crimes and make Californians safer."

Few incidents of gun violence this year have been as high profile as the tragic incident at Red Lake, Minnesota, where ten people, from 15 to 62 years of age, perished March 21. On Wednesday, June 15, as part of a Duluth, Minnesota "Walk for Peace," community members affiliated with the Northland Million Mom March Chapter will ring the bell for each of the victims in their memorial garden, at Lake Place Park near Superior Street and Lake Avenue. They will also ring the bell for Evan Klassen, 4, accidentally shot during target practice at Lake Vermillion; and for Billy Walsh, 43 and the father of three, who was shot at Nye's Polonaise Room in Minneapolis May 12. Zachary Ourada, 26, a concealed handgun permit holder, has been charged with Mr. Walsh's murder. Ourada was reportedly intoxicated and harassing female patrons of the resturant. When Mr. Walsh asked him to leave, Ourada reportedly shot him four times in the back, and later shouted to police "I didn't do nothin' wrong, man! I got a permit to carry..."

Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty, nevertheless, just signed a bill that makes it even easier for Minnesotans who shouldn't have a permit to get a permit to carry a hidden handgun, and broadens where guns can be taken, including bars and restaurant.

"We believe that when it comes to preventing gun violence, we can do better in Minnesota," said Joan Peterson, Co-President of the Northland Moms. "And we believe it is up to all of us to educate our elected leaders that we expect them to do what the people want. They can lead, or the people will eventually make sure that they follow."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Illinois; US: Minnesota; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: babblingidiots; bang; banglist; blagojevich; duluth; guns; millionmoms; millionmorons; pawlenty; santorum; specter
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Looks like the Million Moronic Idiots/Brady Bunch are going after Pawlenty and Santorum.
1 posted on 06/18/2005 11:04:06 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan
I'm Clamoring for Action on Gun Violence Prevention too!

I want nationwide concealed-weapons carry and I want it NOW!

That action would save more lives and thin the herd of violent criminals more than anything Sarah Brady ever proposed in her life.

-ccm

2 posted on 06/18/2005 11:08:21 AM PDT by ccmay (Question Diversity)
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To: Dan from Michigan
HIGHLY Interesting Stuff from Joel Rosenberg:

Unclear on the concept

Well, we had Million Mom March organizer, spokeswoman and activist Barbara Graham gunning down a man in an attempt to avenge the murder of her son (she shot the wrong guy, and crippled him).  And then we had antigun activist Annette "Flirty" Stevens keeping an unlicensed handgun, with the serial filed off, in her home -- along with some narcotics. 

And now we've got antigun activist Sheila Eccleston calling the police about a burglary next door, and encouraging them to make it quick because she had a sawed-off shotgun in her home, one that she admits had been there for six months. 

I think some of these folks are unclear on a lot of concepts.

3 posted on 06/18/2005 11:09:30 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Let'em keep up the hysterical propaganda! It just highlights how out of touch they are with the rest of the country and will guarantee more victories for the NRA and the Republican Party. It's fun to watch the libs disintegrate right in from of your eyes. You don't even have to get up to change the channel.


4 posted on 06/18/2005 11:09:52 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer
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To: Dan from Michigan

I demand college campuses recognize my right to conceal carry on the premises! Seriously. Sounds like a common sense solution to me.


5 posted on 06/18/2005 11:10:32 AM PDT by Firefigher NC
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To: Dan from Michigan

More Brady Bulls*#t.


6 posted on 06/18/2005 11:10:55 AM PDT by Founding Father ( Republicans control the Oval Office, Senate and House, but still can't govern.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
What's this "rising tide" stuff? One thing I noticed about the last few Presidential elections is that gun crime NEVER came up. This article is a nice attempt to stir the pot, but these people expose themselves as liars when they pluck this stuff out of the air as a way to push their agenda.

You'd think they'd be happy that crime in this country has been going down for the most part for the past few decades. Of course the kinds of crime that could be prevented by handguns--rapes, for example--don't seem to concern them much.

7 posted on 06/18/2005 11:13:15 AM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (If Al Qaeda took over the judiciary and mainstream media, would we know the difference?)
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To: Dan from Michigan
AROUND THE NATION, A RISING TIDE:COMMUNITIES CLAMOR FOR ACTION ON GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION

No, they're not. I haven't heard one person outraged over gun control. Most want to keep their right to protect themselves - especially in the age of terrorism.

These Brady people are nuts. Maybe they're Communists, because the first thing a Communist government does is disarm it's population.

No one cares what the anti-arms lobby thinks anymore. They're so 1990's. They're yesterdays news.

8 posted on 06/18/2005 11:13:33 AM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: ccmay
I'm Clamoring for Action on Gun Violence Prevention too!

So am I. Like all criminals who commit crimes with guns being locked up. Forever.

9 posted on 06/18/2005 11:14:49 AM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Get rid of the gangs, problem solved.


10 posted on 06/18/2005 11:15:06 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Dan from Michigan

Uh-oh. A Rising Tide, complete with "communities" calling for action. Next thing we know, there will be an Increasing Call, followed by a Growing Chorus.


11 posted on 06/18/2005 11:15:07 AM PDT by Nick Danger (www.iranfree.org)
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To: Dan from Michigan
In California, groundbreaking new crime detection tools are being proposed that would help law enforcement use bullet shells to track down and prosecute gun criminals.

...and it has cost how many million dollars to implement ?... and it has never led to any arrest or conviction of an offender in a gun crime.

How many times do we have to hear about the "gun show loophole?"

A quote: "If a man is willing to use a gun in the commition of a crime it stands to reason that he would be willing to commit a crime to obtain a gun."--Benjamin Franklin

12 posted on 06/18/2005 11:16:02 AM PDT by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: Dan from Michigan
AROUND THE NATION, A RISING TIDE: COMMUNITIES CLAMOR FOR ACTION ON GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION

If they were the Miilion Mom March would be a viable active organization, instead of a hollow shell front for the Brady Organixation.

13 posted on 06/18/2005 11:18:09 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy
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To: Founding Father
More Brady Bulls*#t.

Exactly. Sarah Brady taking out her pain on the innocent. If those who who decry the gun violence in this country want to accomplish something, they should bring back the mental hospitals that JFK closed. However that would mean admitting that the Kennedys' can be wrong.

14 posted on 06/18/2005 11:19:42 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: Dan from Michigan
"The voices of the American people are getting louder in demanding action to combat gun violence," said Mike Barnes, President of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. "The people are ahead of the politicians – but smart politicians would be well advised to listen to the rising voices."

The gun banners have been claiming 80% of Americans polled want more gun control for decades.

Their only problem is that in the only poll that counts, elections, they've been losing badly.

15 posted on 06/18/2005 11:21:45 AM PDT by RJL
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To: Dan from Michigan
Not much clamor around here.
16 posted on 06/18/2005 11:23:04 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I zot trolls for fun and profit.)
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To: cripplecreek

I'm only clamoring because I can't afford any new
C&Rs.


17 posted on 06/18/2005 11:24:44 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: infidel29
A quote: "If a man is willing to use a gun in the commition of a crime it stands to reason that he would be willing to commit a crime to obtain a gun."--Benjamin Franklin

Good one! Worth repeating, often.

Furthermore, the quote begs the question whether or not the Founding Fathers pondered citizens and guns. It seems that they did, and did approve of "the people" being armed.

18 posted on 06/18/2005 11:26:32 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: cripplecreek
Not much clamor around here.

The silence is deafening isn't, it?

What " voices of the American people are getting louder"? Who are they talking about?

19 posted on 06/18/2005 11:30:28 AM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: AAABEST; wku man; SLB; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; The Old Hoosier; xrp; freedomlover; ...
"Enemy action" ping.

"A RISING TIDE". Yeah, sure. And overflowing with lies stinking like dead fish.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

20 posted on 06/18/2005 11:31:42 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: elbucko

Do you have a source for that quote from Franklin?


21 posted on 06/18/2005 11:32:13 AM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: elbucko

If it weren't for "the people" with weapons there would have been no revolutionary war. The farmers and laborers who made of the militia brought their own guns to the fight. Our new military didn't have large numbers of weapons to issue to soldiers either so many of those were personal weapons.


22 posted on 06/18/2005 11:33:32 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I zot trolls for fun and profit.)
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To: elbucko; infidel29; Joe Brower

Do you have an attribution for that quote? The internet is full of bogus gun quotes that were never said by our founding fathers, and it gets to be a problem, weeding them out after they are repeated and take on a life of their own.

I've never seen that quote by Franklin on any list of quotes, and believe me, I've seen a lot of lists. I've also been burned by using some quotes (one supposedly by Jefferson comes to mind) which was absolutely proven to be bogus. A famous bogus quote (not) by Hitler also springs to mind.


23 posted on 06/18/2005 11:34:03 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Joe Brower

You got it, Joe. And nothing fires up the commoners like these knuckleheads starting their anti-gun rubbish. Gun ownership, the death penalty, freedom of expression and religion are where I hang my hat.


24 posted on 06/18/2005 11:34:12 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: ccmay

Wrong Brady got shot.


25 posted on 06/18/2005 11:35:35 AM PDT by anton
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To: Joe Brower

Hey, I've SEEN that "Rising Tide" before, swirling
round and round , moving ever higher till it finally
reaches critical mass then lumps and all it flows out
over the bathroom floor.


26 posted on 06/18/2005 11:36:26 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: elbucko
I searched Yahoo for that quote and found NOTHING like it. Unless you can provide a reference please quit using false apocryphal quotes from the founders. I agree with the sentiment, but it makes 2nd Amendment supporters look stupid to have to lie to support our position. The gun grabbers are lying enough already, we don't need to.
27 posted on 06/18/2005 11:37:26 AM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: tet68

LOL!!!


28 posted on 06/18/2005 11:37:27 AM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: concerned about politics
No one cares what the anti-arms lobby thinks anymore

I care(to know the enemy). Many politicians care. That's why we all need to be vigilant. The gun grabbers will never give up.

29 posted on 06/18/2005 11:40:39 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan (Defeat Stabenow in 06!!!!)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Haven't heard anything from the anti-gun nuts for a while. Must be time for a fund-raiser, but it won't fly. Even the gun-grabber MSM hasn't been running anti-gun propaganda, since they know nobody cares, and it just stirs up the pro-gun rights crowd.


30 posted on 06/18/2005 11:42:03 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Dan from Michigan
The gun grabbers will never give up.

They're Communists. They said they'd try to take the U.S. from within. They've made quite a few inroads already. We're not turning them away fast enough.

31 posted on 06/18/2005 11:45:00 AM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: Dr.Hilarious

To me, a "gun crime" is using the wrong kind of bore brush and scratching up the barrel.


32 posted on 06/18/2005 11:46:44 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Dan from Michigan
Cow pie hystrionics from these manipulative totalitarians.


33 posted on 06/18/2005 11:50:19 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Went to the range today. About 30 club members there. I asked for a moment of silence so we could hear the "clamoring." Strange. Just the sounds of birds and insects. We had a good laugh and returned to firing.


34 posted on 06/18/2005 12:04:04 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: martin_fierro

You forgot the little tidbit of old Sarah herself buying a rifle for her son last year.


35 posted on 06/18/2005 12:08:34 PM PDT by beltfed308 (Cloth or link. Happiness is a perfect trunion.)
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To: RKV
I searched Yahoo for that quote and found NOTHING like it.

So what! Is Yahoo the end all and be all of reference sources? Look to post no12 that I indicated as being quoted. It was the sentiment that I was agreeing with, as you also say that you concur.

Why in the hell don't you just dispense with the escort of words in your post and simply call me what was the intent of your post: "stupid".

36 posted on 06/18/2005 12:12:59 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: Dr.Hilarious; Dan from Michigan

Ummmnnnhhh...Milwaukee's had a few shootings (12 in 12 hours last weekend)--but no "rising tide" noises.

Most folks have figured out that the Bad Guys have the guns and there's not a helluvalot they can do about that.


37 posted on 06/18/2005 12:17:18 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Nick Danger

Duluth, MN., hardly qualifies as a "community."

Aside from polar bears, wolves, and what, 50K people, there's not much there...


38 posted on 06/18/2005 12:18:23 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Travis McGee
I share your caution. I did a five-minute search and couldn't find anything. Sounds like something old Ben would say, however "trust but verify" is good SOP.

Another false quote is the often-used "liberty teeth" quote by George Washington.

39 posted on 06/18/2005 12:23:16 PM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: Dan from Michigan
If this issue is really gaining momentum why did we see presidential candidate Kerry hunting in Ohio "Can I get me a hunting license here". This issue has been a loser for the liberals for years, in fact so long that even their political operatives have recognized it as such. The article is a poorly written propaganda piece for a disenfranchised group of socialist activist.
40 posted on 06/18/2005 12:24:06 PM PDT by kublia khan (total war brings absolute victory)
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To: Dan from Michigan
FACT: Philadelphia's gun violence problem is a direct result of severe corruption and Democrat politics. The gangs have infiltrated the police. The people of Philadelphia deserve a mayor like Guiliani, who broke the back of the New York gangs.
41 posted on 06/18/2005 12:29:35 PM PDT by dufekin
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To: martin_fierro
Typical Liberals, Laws the propose only apply to the blue collar stupids, not them.

My business partner was going to vote for a gun registration and training initiative. I was surprised, and asked him(he had several guns)if he was going to register his guns and he and his wife go down for the 5 year retraining? Well, no he says, I already know how to use guns, the law is for the "others".

That was a moment of clarity for me, now I understood Liberals(he was a Republican too!)
42 posted on 06/18/2005 12:35:08 PM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: Joe Brower
The Second Amendment...
America's Original Homeland Security!

Be Ever Vigilant!

43 posted on 06/18/2005 12:39:15 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Joe Brower

Nothing here http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin#External_links and I'm sure that this is not an authoritative site.


44 posted on 06/18/2005 12:44:53 PM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

The government creates a problem (the WOD) and then thier solution to the violence that results is take away our freedoms.


45 posted on 06/18/2005 12:46:21 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Did the Brady Bunch get a new press secretary? They seem to be sticking their putrid, lying heads out in the open more and more lately.


46 posted on 06/18/2005 1:10:46 PM PDT by Morgan's Raider
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To: elbucko

You said it, not me. Based on prior experience with you it is not a limited occurance. Carelessness with facts is a liberal trait. We have to be better than that. Others (like Travis McGee) noticed the unsubstantiated quote as well so this is not matter of personalities (and ours certainly don't go together well). I had hoped that by focusing on facts and not on namecalling you would get the hint. My bad.


47 posted on 06/18/2005 1:40:43 PM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: infidel29

I will make the same comment to you that I made to Elbucko (in the interests of fairness). Care to prove that quote is from Ben Franklin? Bet you can't. I wish you could, but I really doubt it.


48 posted on 06/18/2005 1:42:13 PM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
"AROUND THE NATION, A RISING TIDE: COMMUNITIES CLAMOR FOR ACTION ON GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION"

'Yes, and it's about time! GO BRADY FOLKS! We support you 100 percent. It's getting pretty dangerous out there for us folks that ply our trades in the streets and alleys these days,' clamored an upset pickocket.

Another purse-snatcher-rapist clamored, 'Hell no! We won't work unless something is done to make the streets safe for us again.'

A ten-times convicted child molester sitting in the bushes in a park clamored, 'These are hard times. I'm even afraid to even look at a kid anymore. Guns got to go! Even those stun guns make me nervous.'

Twice-convicted convenience store robber clamored, 'How do you expect us to make a decent living if we can't even go into a 7-11 Store, even for a cup of coffee and not be intimidated by the clerks brandishing hoglegs on their hips?'

Clamor reporter, I.M. Shakey of the VPC clamored that his phone rang for two days straight when the House dumped the 50-Caliber ban bill. 'That was outrageous,' he clamored. After all the lies we told to get it passed . . . and all those dummied-up, in-house polls we used; and all that money we paid and stuff. It's criminal,' he clamored further.

49 posted on 06/18/2005 1:45:29 PM PDT by Eastbound (Jacked out since 3/31/05)
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To: Joe Brower; AnnaZ; feinswinesuksass
Click this for some entertainment:


50 posted on 06/18/2005 1:54:23 PM PDT by HangFire (I'm only wearing black until they come up with something darker...)
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