Skip to comments.China Advances Missile Program
Posted on 06/22/2005 10:45:34 AM PDT by Paul Ross
China has successfully flight-tested a submarine-launched missile that U.S. officials say marks a major advance in Beijing's long-range nuclear program.
"This is a significant milestone in their effort to develop strategic weapons," said a U.S. official familiar with reports of the test.
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Thanks to Bubba for this one. His administartion took the 5-axis milling machine off of the DO NOT EXPORT list and sold it to China...AGAINST the advice of the military. The 5-axis milling machine allows for tighter tolerances in aircraft and/or missile bodies.
Naw it is the freetraitors fault for buying Made in China stuff at Walmart... /s
Old news!HAs been posted on FR
Old news!HAs been posted on FR
Bernie Schwartz must be smiling.
|CHINA'S NEW MISSILE 'WARNING TO U.S.'
|Posted by Iam1ru1-2
On News/Activism 06/21/2005 10:22:52 PM EDT · 15 replies · 379+ views
World Net Daily ^ | Jerry Seper
China's newly developed submarine-launched Ju Lang-2 missile should serve as a warning to the U.S. not to underestimate Beijing's military power, say Taiwanese military experts. "The Ju Lang-2 poses a great threat to the U.S. because it has better precision and guidance and is harder to detect," said Weng Ming-hsien, a professor from the Institute of Strategic Studies at the Tamkang University. Weng said China probably would deploy the Ju Lang-2, which carries nuclear warheads, on its Han-class nuclear submarines. "China wants to tell the U.S. that it has never stopped developing nuclear arms," he said. "China also wants to...
|China test-fires new submarine-launched missile
|Posted by esryle
On News/Activism 06/17/2005 10:25:20 PM EDT · 41 replies · 793+ views
Times Leader.com ^ | June 17, 2005
TOKYO - (KRT) - China test-fired a new long-range, submarine-launched ballistic missile Thursday, Japanese government sources said Friday. The new missile is believed to be the Ju Lang-2, a modified version of the intercontinental ballistic missile Dong Feng-31 that has a range of about 8,000 kilometers. The new SLBM was believed to be fired from a nuclear submarine in waters off Qingdao and touched down in a desert in China several thousand kilometers away. It has been confirmed that China test-fired an SLBM in 2001. China is believed to possess about 30 ICBMs and has been conducting research on multiple-warhead...
Beam me up, Scotty.
Good luck, GWB. He's having a hard enough time making US more energy-independent.
But not by Bill Gertz.
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Published December 3, 2004
China's military has launched the first of a new class of ballistic missile submarines in what defense officials view as a major step forward in Beijing's strategic weapons program.
The new 094-class submarine was launched in late July and when fully operational in the next year or two will be the first submarine to carry the underwater-launched version of China's new DF-31 missile, according to defense officials.
"When fully operational, it will represent a more modern, more capable missile platform," said one official familiar with reports of the new submarine.
A second intelligence official said building submarines is a top priority of the Chinese, and the Type 094 will be "China's first truly intercontinental strategic nuclear delivery system."
The new Type 094 was spotted by U.S. intelligence agencies at the Huludao shipyard, located on the coast of Bohai Bay, some 250 miles northwest of Beijing.
The submarine is in the early stages of being outfitted and is not yet equipped with new JL-2 submarine-launched nuclear missiles.
The submarine is believed to be based largely on Russian nuclear submarine technology, the officials said.
A CIA report made public last week stated that Russia was a major supplier of technology to China's naval nuclear propulsion programs.
The launching of the new missile submarine appears ahead of schedule. A Pentagon report on Chinese military power made public in May stated that the new Chinese missile submarine would not be deployed until around 2010.
A Defense Intelligence Agency report produced in 1999 and labeled "secret" stated that the new submarine is part of a program by China of "modernizing and expanding its missile force."
"Mobile, solid-fuel missiles and a new ballistic missile submarine will improve the force's ability to survive a first strike," the report said, "while more launchers, on-board penetration aids, and possibly multiple warheads will improve its ability to penetrate missile defenses."
The DIA report stated that China is expected to field one new ballistic missile submarine by 2020.
A Chinese Embassy spokesman had no immediate comment.
In a related development, U.S. intelligence officials said the Chinese suffered a setback in their JL-2 missile program when a test flight of the JL-2 missile failed over the summer.
The JL-2 missile program was delayed by the test failure but is continuing to be developed, the officials said. China conducted tests of the JL-2 in 2002 and last year.
Richard Fisher, vice president of the Washington-based International Assessment and Strategy Center, said the launch of the new missile submarine is "an astounding development."
"The 094 has followed 093 development far more rapidly than the assessments in the annual Pentagon reports on the PLA," Mr. Fisher said, referring to the China's People's Liberation Army.
China also recently launched a new attack submarine known as the Type 093. Additionally, U.S. intelligence agencies were surprised by China's disclosure in July of a third new type of submarine known as the Yuan-class, a diesel-electric attack submarine.
"In the very near future, China will have a secure, second-strike nuclear attack capability that it will use to bolster its nuclear strategy of seeking to deter the United States from aiding Taiwan after a PLA attack," Mr. Fisher said.
Mr. Fisher said the JL-2 likely will have multiple warheads.
The new submarine will make it more difficult for the U.S. military to take part in a defense of Taiwan because of the threat of nuclear retaliation, he said.
The Pentagon has deployed a new missile defense system, but a spokesman for the Missile Defense Agency has said the current interceptor system is designed to stop a long-range North Korean missile, but not an attack from Chinese or Russian missiles.
A 1999 report by the House Select Committee on U.S. National Security and Military/Commercial Concerns with the People's Republic of China stated that the new missile submarine will likely benefit from stolen U.S. nuclear warhead designs.
The report stated that the JL-2 is expected to have a longer range than the DF-31 and that 16 JL-2s will be deployed on the new submarine.
The range of the JL-2 is estimated to be about 7,500 miles, enough "to strike targets throughout the United States," the report said.
"Instead of venturing into the open ocean to attack the United States, the Type 094-class submarines could remain near [Chinese] waters, protected by the [People's Liberation Army,] Navy and Air Force," the report said.
The new submarine will be a major improvement over China's current ballistic missile submarine known as the Xia, which is equipped with medium-range missiles.
The current Xia submarine is considered so noisy to underwater detection gear that its chances of surviving attack submarine strikes in ocean waters are limited.
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Are we gonna have to nuke them before they nuke us??
That's an interesting thought. Most of us have been programmed not to go there. But what if, in order for Western civilization to survive another thousand years (or more) we had to preemptively undertake great war against the forces of anti Westernism? What would be the "moral" thing to do?
It is clearly the moral thing to do. Problem is we have to wipe out most of the West along with the 3rd world.
They clearly are building up for a confrontation with us. One featuring surprise, asymmetry and clearly, despite all wishful thinking aside...likely on our home soil.
Remember China's PLA-controlled Hutchinson Whampoa taking over both ends of the Panama Canal...and bribing the Panamanians to do it and ignore a superior U.S. bid? Then deploying a rather large quantity...over 10,000... of their "civilians" to these bases. But Colin Powell went down in 2001 and reportedly still sees "no threat." Wow. That places him at direct odds with the assessment of the late Admiral Thomas Moorer, and General Singlaub.
Doesn't that just warm your heart knowing Powell has been so recently our Secretary of State and former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.... Keep in mind he was the one who went down to Panama to scope out how dangerous the Chinese were with their bases there and pronounced those concerns "without merit." Keep in mind Powell was rather badly snookered by France going into the Iraq war. Who else has snookered him?
This brings to mind that sage observation by Mark Twain:
"The 13th stroke of the clock is not only false of itself, but casts exceedingly grave reservations on the accuracy of the preceding 12!"
People in govt. lose their integrity and principles pretty damn fast when a job with a seven-figure salary and benefits befitting a corporate officer are waved under their nose. I have no doubt that any company that does business with the Chinese or is Chinese-owned is doing this successfully with our govt. officials. To hell with doing what is right, I wanna get rich and retire in 10 years. Money has a way of blurring the realities and the big war will happen after these guys are dead anyway.
Of course, they could still have a series of "accidents" with their submarines that take them out of play. :)
Just wait when the production of US missiles is outsourced to China. Free market uber alles.
Kevin, you have strange sense of humor. Missile Technology Sent to China