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Deputy Tasers 90-Pound 13-Year-Old Girl At Hospital
WFTV ^ | 6/24/05 | AP

Posted on 06/24/2005 10:07:17 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

A deputy Tasered an intoxicated 13-year-old girl who was kicking and scratching two hospital nurses, officials said.

April Rene Burleson, who is 4-foot-9 and weighs 90 pounds, had a blood alcohol level of 0.175 percent and was under the influence of marijuana and the prescription drug Xanax, according to the Lee County Sheriff's Office.

"You have to understand, she was lashing out, kicking and scratching," sheriff's spokeswoman Ileana LiMarzi. "She was acting like an adult who needed to be restrained. Just because she's 13 doesn't mean she can't harm somebody."

Burleson was charged with loitering, disorderly public intoxication, battery by a juvenile on health services personnel, battery on an officer and resisting an officer. She was sent to the Lee County Juvenile Assessment Center.

Burleson was walking on the street at 2:50 a.m. Thursday when a deputy picked her up on the loitering charge. She was first brought to her mother, who agreed to have the girl medically cleared at Lee Memorial Hospital before being processed.

According to sheriff's reports, Burleson had been combative with Deputy Chad Edwards before they reached the hospital, then screamed at the hospital staff and injured the nurses and Edwards.

Burleson was shocked with the Taser in the chest, then held in four-point restraints during her exam, deputies said.


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To: blu
I'm starting to think that our law enforcement guys are a bunch of pantywaists!! It seems like they're all afraid of getting hurt.

Just curious, when and what was your last injury?

51 posted on 06/24/2005 8:29:35 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Agreed. 100%.


52 posted on 06/24/2005 8:34:42 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: somniferum
Since this was happening in closed quarters they probably couldn't use pepper spray.. I really dont know what another alternative would be.. whack her in the head with a billy club?

If you can't control a 90-lb (40kg) 13-year-old girl with your hands on her wrists and some stern, calm talk, then you are way too pussified to be a cop. All of those drugs are "downers" and she was chemically predidposed to passivity.

Incidentally, regarding your tagline: I'm not sure where you got that from, but I believe the proper translation is "A military operation involves deception." Your version, "All war is deception," is factually erroneous and philosphically *stupid*.

53 posted on 06/24/2005 9:03:15 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: TASMANIANRED
Ditto.

An orthopedist I know had his wrist shattered by a patient. They were unable to repair it and restore function to his hand. He is now out of a job.

54 posted on 06/24/2005 9:05:49 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: kharaku

>A taser is NOT the weapon to restrain someone in that state. It is a good way to potentially give them a heart attack however.

Sounds reasonable, but what should they have done instead?


55 posted on 06/24/2005 10:39:12 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I'm afraid that if I was her mother and had access to a taser I'd have to use it. 13 and drunk AND stoned? She needs an azz whoopin' and then she needs some serious help.


56 posted on 06/24/2005 10:43:15 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

dat devil weed marijuana!!!


57 posted on 06/24/2005 10:45:22 PM PDT by antmanbee
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To: Yeti
Several of us old "bug housers", many of whom worked in children's programs for years are getting a kick out of your comments.

Also FYI kids often have opposite reactions to drugs as compared to adults, can be amazingly strong and extremely quick and agile. Don't let their size fool you.

The purpose is to subdue with the least amount of danger to the patient AND staff. I personally would not have preferred a tazer in any take down I was involved in, but we were never allowed darts either. Just an IM, in which the needle often came back broke or bent, and hopefully you didn't jab your coworker at the same time. Heck, sometimes coworkers ended up in the melee mistakenly restrained to the patient. It can be a real free for all.
58 posted on 06/24/2005 10:47:33 PM PDT by tertiary01 (It took 21 years but 1984 finally got here.)
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To: Fawn

bony assed little ferret woulda slipped right out of them!!


59 posted on 06/24/2005 10:49:02 PM PDT by antmanbee
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Crack babies become this, according to people I know. It's sad.


60 posted on 06/24/2005 10:58:00 PM PDT by BobS
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To: tiki
"She needs an azz whoopin' and then she needs some serious help."

No discipline is allowed while a cultural tradition is being followed. Pick one that allows a little girl to get S-faced and run around like that. There aren't any. Check out her family and make a decision later.

61 posted on 06/24/2005 11:15:00 PM PDT by BobS
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To: jess35

at say 265# and 6-3...
and with the ability to press twice her weight with one arm...

no problem.

the tazer stuff is an excessive force measure.
the cop who did it belongs off the force.


62 posted on 06/25/2005 3:26:14 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (I remember when conservative meant, CUTTING the government's POWER and SIZE down.)
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To: Yeti

If you can't control a 90-lb (40kg) 13-year-old girl with your hands on her wrists and some stern, calm talk, then you are way too pussified to be a cop.



the wussifying of our police force is nearly complete.

next thing you know, they will call swat on a five year old weilding a sharpened tootsie pop stick...


63 posted on 06/25/2005 3:28:45 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (I remember when conservative meant, CUTTING the government's POWER and SIZE down.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Can't believe some of the responses on this thread. If a girl is old enough to be out on the streets at 2:30 in the morning stoned out of her mind and kicking and screaming out of control, she's old enough to get tasered. Kid or not, nobody has an excuse to act this way. Cops are doing their job in this case.

This spoiled brat probably got the first real lesson of her life. I bet she doesn't do this kind of thing again!

64 posted on 06/25/2005 3:41:06 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (Old enough to know better, still too young to care)
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...Seemed to go with this one.
65 posted on 06/25/2005 3:53:46 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: Judith Anne

It used to be so simple. Scuffles were no big deal. Now with HIV and Hepatitis, Even a scratch or bite can be fatal in the long run. Add this to the fact that this "kid" was walking the streets at night, stoned out of her head, makes me think she would be considered high risk for disease. What should the officer do? Get sued for overpowering her by use of force while risking his own personal safety? I think the taser should be used instead of force. The problem with the puny tasers they have is that they are not always effective on drug freaks, like the Rodney King deal. They should have just juiced him up repeatedly until he was unconcious intead of hitting him.


66 posted on 06/25/2005 4:04:52 AM PDT by BOBWADE
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Patient: "Doctor it hurts when I do this"
Doctor: "Well then don't do that."
67 posted on 06/25/2005 4:08:43 AM PDT by Khurkris (Still raining.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

A little drugged-up, drunken teenage wildcat is trying to assault hospital workers, law enforcement officers, and generally wreak havoc on anyone and everyone?

Taser the little beeotch, I don't give a damn what her age is. And as another poster said, then drag the parent(s) in and taser their ass for good measure.

Had I been in that officer's position I would have fired that Taser without hesitation and I wouldn't lose one wink of sleep over it.


68 posted on 06/25/2005 4:41:17 AM PDT by Mad Mammoth
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To: SamAdams76

I'm with you. Since when has any decent FReeper been opposed to a well deserved Zot?


69 posted on 06/25/2005 4:56:17 AM PDT by auboy
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To: ChildOfThe60s
"If you have ever been in a close up situation with a totally berserk person, I don't think you would be asking that question. Particularly one that's chemically induced. It defies belief. "

Been there, done that and it does defy belief. Got scratched bad enough for stitches. Luckily I got no diseases from the druggie.

70 posted on 06/25/2005 5:04:50 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: Yeti
If you can't control a 90-lb (40kg) 13-year-old girl with your hands on her wrists and some stern, calm talk, then you are way too pussified to be a cop. All of those drugs are "downers" and she was chemically predidposed to passivity.

You make it abundantly clear that you don't have much knowledge of what you speak. Downers definitely !=passivity.

Incidentally, regarding your tagline: I'm not sure where you got that from, but I believe the proper translation is "A military operation involves deception." Your version, "All war is deception," is factually erroneous and philosphically *stupid*

I got that quote from Volume 1 of Freeper Jeff Head's Dragon Fury series books. Another translation goes

"All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near."..

or in my copy of The Art of War..

"Warfare is the Tao of deception. Thus: Although you are capable, display incapability......"

Therefore, if you feel that is incorrect and/or philosophically *stupid*, take it up with Jeff Head and/or Sun Tzu. Have a nice day.

71 posted on 06/25/2005 8:23:29 AM PDT by somniferum (All warfare is deception - Sun Tzu)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I'm suprised that the hospital didn't have security and psych staff on hand to restrain her. Most hospitals have personell who are trained to handle this sort of situation.


72 posted on 06/25/2005 8:25:48 AM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: somniferum
Therefore, if you feel that is incorrect and/or philosophically *stupid*, take it up with Jeff Head and/or Sun Tzu.

Neither Jeff Head nor Sun Tzu advocates child abuse on FR with an erroneously translated quote for a tagline.

Your tagline errs by inappropriate literalism: the general case was translated as an absolute "all war is..."

In point of fact, if your own army vastly outnumbers an poorly defended, weak foe, the best and easiest thing to do is to simply let the enemy see the truth of the hopelessness of fighting against you, and then show up prepard to fight. In this way, you will achieve victory at minimal cost.

Philosophically and ethically, which is how Master Sun is generally understood in modern times, the statement as you've quoted it generalizes to, "In every undertaking, one should lie and present a false front." This is stupidity! I'll leave it to you to concieve of a situation in which honesty is advantageous. If you can think of only one such situation, then you have shown the statement to be false, because of the implications of the word "all."

Since I have a translation(Thomas Cleary's) which renders Sun Tzu self-consistent, externally consistent and rational, and since your translations render his words erroneous, I do not find that I have a conflict with Master Sun, but with others' interpretations of his work. Since Jeff Head has done a great deal of work, and since I have never seen him claim absolute perfection, I think he probably erred here. But, as you've shown, this error is common to several translations, so I'd say it's a very small error in a large body of good work.

Have a nice day.

Smarmy, catty, passive-aggressive twit: have a bad day of anxiety about your wrongness, then correct your thinking and have many nice days thereafter.

See? Deception vs. honesty, this little exchange might be a good object lesson for you.

73 posted on 06/25/2005 10:29:37 AM PDT by Yeti
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To: Yeti

Well, this is an object lesson in how some people can't make a point without using using personal insults, albeit a very good one as far as insults go. Mind if I use *that* as my new tagline?


74 posted on 06/25/2005 10:46:04 AM PDT by somniferum (Smarmy, catty, passive-aggressive twit: have a bad day of anxiety about your wrongness, then correct)
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To: elli1

"LMAO! (and the scarey part is that this may be more true than we know.)"

Oh yea...today's cops with tasers are a dangerous and malicious lot. They are using the taser like they wish they could use their guns...on pregnant moms, little boys and little girls like this one...any and all who refuse or don't seem in their view to be "properly" responding to their every command!


75 posted on 06/25/2005 12:18:58 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (illegally posting on an expired tag)
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To: takenoprisoner

and little old ladies...(the Florida nursing home story a couple-three months back).


76 posted on 06/25/2005 7:24:23 PM PDT by elli1
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To: somniferum

Hehe... doesn't quite fit, but I still like it. Maybe you could just edit it a little.


77 posted on 06/26/2005 9:32:58 AM PDT by Yeti (All silliness is the Tao of smarm. Thus, the right-thinking twit has many happy days...)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Isn't this what the night stick used to be used for?


78 posted on 06/26/2005 9:52:04 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: brwnsuga
It is supposed to emit some sort of horrible sound wave that causes headache, dizziness and nausea

Come on now.

I listened to that Avril Lavigne album and it wasn't that bad!

79 posted on 06/26/2005 9:59:31 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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