Skip to comments.Clinton Honors Graham at Final Revival (I'm so Confused)
Posted on 06/26/2005 9:17:36 AM PDT by AZConcervative
As his final American revival meeting continued Saturday, a fragile Billy Graham was met onstage by former President Clinton, who honored the evangelist, calling him "a man I love."
Clinton spoke briefly before Graham's sermon and recalled how the man known as America's pastor had refused to preach before a segregated audience in Arkansas decades ago when that state was in a bitter fight over school desegregation.
"I was just a little boy and I'll never forget it," said Clinton, who was joined by his wife, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. "I've loved him ever since. God bless you, friend."
Graham called the Clintons "wonderful friends" and "a great couple," quipping that the former president should become an evangelist and allow "his wife to run the country."
Graham, 86, then launched into a short sermon that was interrupted by applause five times. Organizers estimated 80,000 people had come to the crusade at Flushing Meadows-Corona Park in Queens about 20,000 more than the opening night Friday. The rally ends Sunday.
The evangelist is suffering from fluid on the brain, prostate cancer and Parkinson's disease. He uses the walker due to a pelvic fracture and is largely confined to his home in Montreat, N.C. He had said previously that the rally "will be the last in America, I'm sure."
Despite his many ailments, he spoke strongly for about 15 minutes, in an address meant to appeal to young people. He peppered his speech with pop-culture references from Madonna to Bono to MTV. He wove a parable about bad decision-making from the plot of "Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith," in which Anakin Skywalker becomes the villain Darth Vader.
"The decisions you make tonight will effect your whole future and your eternal future," he said, before inviting people forward to accept Christ.
Graham's son and successor, the Rev. Franklin Graham, sat nearby, ready to finish the speech in case his father could not. But Franklin Graham was needed only to help his father move onstage.
Seats began filling hours before the event began, as temperatures reached into the 90s. Speakers repeatedly encouraged people in the audience to drink water to avoid fainting. Graham waited to go on in an air-conditioned tent, with aides nearby in case of a medical emergency, and the stage was shaded by a massive canopy.
Graham's pulpit has a movable seat hidden from view, so he can sit if he feels unsteady. He used the seat Saturday only after he finished his sermon.
Graham is considering a request to hold a rally in November in London, but Franklin Graham said his father no longer adjusts well to time zone changes and does not like to be away from his wife, Ruth, who is also in ill health.
Graham has preached to more than 210 million people in 185 countries. He has been sought out by U.S. presidents and leaders worldwide and, more than any other religious figure, has come to represent the American evangelical movement.
Marie St. Louis, 34, who came to the event hours early Saturday with friends and family from her New York church, called the rally "bittersweet" because it was Graham's last in the United States.
"It's sad because he's such a legend," St. Louis said. "When you think of Billy Graham, you think of a lot of things a Christian
Was this before or after he remembered the black churches that didn't burn down?
Do you recall that Billy also defended Clinton in the Lewinsky scandal, saying that the then President had "such a way with the ladies," or some such nonsense? He has been close to all incumbent Presidents since Eisenhower. And he would have been close to Dole too if Dole had made a serious effort and been elected.
Maybe Graham said "Get behind me Bubba", and it was not reported in the press.
It would be after..
BEFORE his first attempted rape.
It is true that Graham integrated all of his Crusades from the 1950s onward. This aroused some opposition in the South too.
I don't remember that. This whole thing is really disappointing to me. Does anyone have any intellectual honesty anymore? I hoppe Benedict stays the course.
All he wanted to do, he said, was preach the message that God loves you, and that Jesus Christ died for you to pay a penalty for your sins and mine.
Then, Rev. Graham shows up with Bill Clinton, and essentially endorses Hillary for President in 2008.
I am stunned.
Apparently Franklin is the real conservative in the Graham family, and Graham is the popular "moderate." Ruth was once very conservative too, saying that unless God punished the wicked people of the U.S., He would have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah.
When you hear statements like these quoted, I think that they are a misrepresentation of Grahams effort to stay away from the political, while still ministering to people who truly need the message.
Yes, I saw it on the "Today" show, a program that I watch about once every five years. Graham essentially evoked the old Ann W. Richards line about Clinton not being able to "hep' himself" around attractive "ladies." My wife stopped watching the occasional Graham crusades on television thereafter. I think though that Franklin will restore real Christian substance to the crusades. He does not seem to care if people like him the way his poor father does.
Didn't one or more of the Bushes recently do pretty much the same thing? I wonder if Graham is close to McCain, who may be Hillary's opponent?
If you think that praising a rapist/perjurer/(insert word here) is how Christ wants people brought to Him you need to read your Bible more. Christs condemns people like the Clintons in no unceartain terms.
...and satan smiled...
I looked forward all week to see Billy Graham's final appearance and seeing those two there ruined it for me. What @!@k were they doing there anyway?! God help us!
Also, Graham probably knows how liberal NY people are, and he wanted to plug Hillary to get them to be more receptive to his preaching.
See post 15
"I think that they are a misrepresentation of Grahams effort to stay away from the political, while still ministering to people who truly need the message."
Your screen name is appropos. Unfortunately Graham has a long history of this type of behaviour. This is no "misrepresentation" but a sad continuation of Grahams friendship with the world. And BTW I can think of few people who "truly need the message" more than Bill & Hil.
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
It's explained in the article.
Graham called the Clintons "wonderful friends" and "a great couple," quipping that the former president should become an evangelist and allow "his wife to run the country."...The evangelist is suffering from fluid on the brain,
That told me all I needed to know.
The evangelist is suffering from fluid on the brain......
Gee, what was your FIRST clue?
Graham's statement about the Clinton's was offensive in the extreme.
I guess this is a draw. The Dems got Graham and we got Tony Blair's son choosing to do an internship with a Republican.
Its a bizarro world.
It's pretty clear that electing a Democrat would be a step toward theocracy.
You know the truth, and I know the truth, but most of the people of NY do not know the truth. I do think Graham thought what he was doing was perfectly acceptable in God's eyes to reach uninformed sinful people. But John the Baptist did not treat Herod as Billy treats the Clintons, did he?
Not to excuse his poor choice of company, but I didn't read this as Graham's endorsement for Hillary 2008.
Some words just don't go together...like "Clinton" and "honor."
Yea, Graham was elevating Clinton to a personal pedestal high above that of the Hebrew Joseph, who fled from the wicked wife of Potiphar when confronted by aggressive women.
..."quipping that the former president should become an evangelist and allow "his wife to run the country."
I am assuming he means that she should be president.The president does not "run the country".At best,he runs the executive branch of the government.Hardly the same thing.But when taken with his remark that Clinton should become an evangelist,the whole thing begins to smack of sarcasm.
Remember, NY had "real" Clintons, George and DeWitt, before these charlatan interlopers.
Billy also publicly advised his close friend LBJ in 1968 or 1969 to become an evangelist. LBJ instead just retired to his ranch and turnd even more liberal in retirement.
No, no, no no, no, no, no, no...
The Lord does not compromise like that, weak people do.
You are basically saying that God would say, when speaking to a group of abortion proponents, tell them I think abortion is o. k. so that they will accept me and hear "the rest" of My message...
..Graham's sermon never stopped him from belonging to the ALL WHITE prestigious Little Rock Country Club the whole time he was Governor.
The idea of the President "running the country" began, I assume, with popular NY Democrat FDR. Or was it later?
Graham should not have allowed his picutre to be used for such potentially evil purposes (Hillary 2008). However, most approaching that stage in life have a change of perspective.
Good point, hypocrisy flourishes among the American people and their intelligentsia as well. The Apostle Paul would have confronted the hypocrisy directly, and of course he was beheaded. Wickedness does not invite reproof.
That being said, the meeting was in NY and his audience probably likes and agrees with B & H. So insulting them would have turned off many of the people in his audience who would have ceased to listen to his real message. He was probably too generous, but what I read was that he was admiring Clinton's ability to speak effectively and the R-C's job as a senator.
I feel pretty strongly that politics can get in the way of bringing people to Christ. I know some very devout Christians that are politically liberal. (Although honestly, I can't figure out how!) I believe that someday, they will be more conservative. But I couldn't live with myself if I ran them off Christianity because I made my politics the issue. (They actually hate Clinton toobut love Carter. Blech!)
Boy, is this next statement going to get me flamed: I guess I just can't imagine Jesus down here getting into the political fray, but rather meeting each of us where we are, pointing our sin out to us and offering us redemption one at a time. It's a wider message, that's all. And what happens if BC ends up in heaven after all? Would you be mad? (I'm going to stay away from Hillary on that one...she seems less "saveable" to me at this point because of her continued arrogance, etc. ; ) )
Does Billy Graham have dementia?
What I meant to say is that I think Billy thought that he was right to evoke the popular Clintons while in NY. He was not right to do so. I have also heard him similarly evoke such "distinguished" personages as the Reverend Jesse Louis Jackson, Sr., too. I don't know if he has similarly embraced some "third-world" tyrants, popular with the American leadership class too, such as Fidel Castro. He may have invoked Nelson Mandela too.
...proving once again that hypocrisy is the homage vice pays to virtue.
I was glad that Fox News had someone there live though. When was the last time you saw THAT covered on tv?
I think you can count on the Holy Father. In fact, I would bet my life on it.
Graham almost never spoke about abortion. I once heard him note that a line in, Jeremiah, I believe, points out that the Almight "knew us" in the mother's womb. But he never got involved in abortion politics, perhaps because some of his favorite politicos like Nixon, Ford, Carter, and Clinton were openly pro-abortion.
Did the Grahams invite Bubba? Or did Bubba invite himself?
Did Graham preach at the black church that burned into clintons mind when he was a child?
Actually I already know the answer to that question. John served no one but God and was murdered because he refused to cowtow to those in temporary power.