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Massive FLorida FReep Needed To Protect Dead Soldier's Family From Freaks During His Funeral
multiple, Bos Herald, WCVB, St. Pete Times, | MB-26

Posted on 06/29/2005 4:07:34 PM PDT by MindBender26

This is a vanity post, but trust me, a well sourced one. (I'm an old network newsie and have about 8 more good sources on this than Rather had for his typeface fiasco.)

Here are the details:

A SF SGT E-5, James Stewart, will be buried in St. Petersburg, Florida on July 4, 2005. It's wholly appropriate that he be buried on our nation's birthday, because Sergeant Stewart gave his life for our country.... and all of us.

He was killed in Iraq by a roadside bomb, call an IED in MilSpeak. IED is short for "Improvised Explosive Device." It can be an old artillery shell wired to an electric blasting cap or just some explosives and a few pounds of rusty nails for shrapnel. They are nasty, and they are killing our men and women in Iraq.

His family has had time to get ready for the trauma of his funeral, but there is no way they can be ready for the latest insult to both his memory and all that is civilized.

A Topeka, Kansas freak has announced plans to disrupt the burial with chants, bull horns and signs that read, "Thank God for IEDs" "God Hates America," "This Soldier Is In Hell," and "God Wanted This Soldier Dead."

This is not a sick joke. The following is exurpted from a story on WCVB in Boston:

"A Marblehead soldier who was killed in Afghanistan is scheduled to be laid to rest, but a group from Kansas is expected to try to disrupt the services and police are on alert for any problems. Staff Sgt. Christoper Piper, 43, served in both Afghanistan and Iraq and was awarded a bronze star for his combat service."

"(The protesters) claim U.S. soldiers like Piper are dying because the country is being punished for its tolerance of what they see as immoral behavior, such as homosexuality. The group protested several weeks ago in Dracut and Lexington, Mass., carrying signs depicting homosexual sex, handing our leaflets with the message "Thank God for IEDs"

One little girl wrote them (the "protesters") regarding the pain they caused another dead soldier's family.

The protesters wrote back "We serve God; not your vulgar dumb ass. So we don’t care less what you think. We have one goal: publish. We’ve accomplished that goal with you. Have a nice day" (end of letter)

I would name names of these bastards and link to pictures of their vile signs, but JimRob doesn;t want it on FR. I agree with his position. Trust me, they are beyond belief.

These creeps are "protesting" at Sgt. Stewart's funeral at the Park Street Baptist Church, 3901 Park Street North (Park and 39th Ave North, about a mile south of Tyrone Mall) at 11:00 AM on Monday the 4th.

Since they want publicity, they will be there early for the cameras.

There will only be a few of them (they usually fly in from Kansas, but be on the lookout for vehicles with Kansas license plates.)

At some of their prior sick protests, vets and others were able to "convince" the sickos to vacate the area before the family arrived. This is not a call for violence, but I'm sure many of us can be very convincing when we see signs like these.

If any of us really give a damn about the men and women currently serving in harm's way, then this is the least we can do to support them and their families.

Sgt. Stewart volunteered to pay the ultimate price for our freedom. What are we willing to do for him?


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To: Jacob Kell

Anyone can call himself a Baptist. Any church can call itself Baptist. Unfortunately, John the Baptist did not copyright the name.

The Westboro church really is sick. As proof, I'd give a link to their website, if it weren't so disgusting.

Assuming it's the same group, though, that antics of these protesters are a pretty good example of what to expect from them.


201 posted on 06/30/2005 1:27:23 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: MindBender26

Prayers that your efforts to counter these twits are successful. Thank you, from Washington State.


202 posted on 06/30/2005 1:32:29 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: MindBender26; Criminal Number 18F

Here's the way the services and law enforcement handled Phelps during Chris Piper's funeral in Marblehead. Kudos to Criminal Number 18F for the AAR.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1429416/posts

Scott and all who posted in this thread --

First, thanks.

Now for a brief AAR. I did not attend the funeral of Mr Maloney's son. I did attend the Chris Piper viewing and funeral in Marblehead, Mass. I had a bag of Afghan sand to scatter in Chris's gra, which I wound up not using. It was an incredibly powerful service in a Congregational church (where his father is a Deacon of long standing). Chris's brother who lives in Alaska gave the eulogy and made all of us who knew Chris laugh.

The 7th Special Forces Group at Ft. Bragg provided a very professional burial party and sent their brother off with honour.

One special treat was the attendance of an Air Force special operations weatherman who was the SWO on one of Chris's missions with 20th Group. He was in the USA after being wounded seriously at Gardez, and was walking with a cane. He has lost six inches from his left leg and is fighting a medical board to stay in the Air Force -- and in SOF combat weather. A very impressive man.

Chris's previous unit, C Co. 1/20th SF, was well represented. The now-retired ex-SOG company sergeant major that originally accepted Chris into the unit was present, and looking like he'd be ready to do another tour (the Army forced him out at Age 60). About thirty members of the company were present in uniform and a similar number in civilian clothes -- impressive when you consider that there are 83 men in an SF company on paper, and this unit has men overseas right now. The veterans of the SF association also turned out, as did over a dozen local vets of World War II and a large number of Vietnam vets.

One peacetime vet wore his Class A jacket with SP4 stripes proudly, and the ushers sat him next to the SF men with all their baubles.

An Air Force unit was also present in large numbers as Chris's best lifelong friend is in that unit (and now deployed in Iraq).

I was in civvies and almost didn't get in, as the police had barricades. Then I noticed a tall man with a small entourage -- one aide and a photographer -- who was certain to be waved through, so I went through the barricade with Sen. Kerry.

Kerry did not speak at the funeral. The aide was his vietnam-phony "veterans outreach" guy, teh one with the goatee who sings love songs to Ho Chi Minh. I don't know if the photographer was from the Kerry campaign or the Boston Globe (as if there's a difference) but after I pointed her out she got a lot of pictures of Kerry looking presidential in front of a backdrop of the backs of uniforms.

I will give the man the benefit of the doubt, the photog notwithstanding, and think that he came to pay his respects to a great American, and a better man than he (or I).

Kerry did not speak. C-1-20 remembers his speech at the Dan Petithory funeral and was determined not to have a repeat. But any differences the combat soldiers have with Kambodia Krismas Kerry pale next to our differences with Phelps, and I'm sure you are curious about that.

Phelps may indeed be a Democrat, but it's hardly fair to impute his disreputable, despicable behaviour to all Democrats. So, they are supporting the other side in the war, so what, they've done that in every war since 1860, but most of them have enough class not to try to disrupt a funeral. There were more Democrats inside that church than there were in Phelps's protest (about eleven people). And this is a Republican town, and Democrats in special ops are uncommon... but nobody was there as a republican or democrat, just as an American. And Phelps, he was there as I dunno what. A Martian.

The police handled the protest well. They set Phelps up in an area right by the church. Then the State Police's mounted unit put their horses between the Phelpsians and the humans. As the casket was brought in the cops turned the hind ends of their horses on to the protesters, who received the benefit of all substances that issued from the horses for the duration of their protest. Periodically the protesters would try to set up a chant, but every time they did a littla lady with a big set of bagpipes would launch into a hymn or a patriotic or martial tune and drown them out utterly.

In the church, the Piper family and the other mourners never heard a word from the protesters, and the pipes did not interfere with the service at all.

A very professional performance by the police. Phelps excercised his right to a tantrum and no one had to be affected by it.

Still, I can't help but think royal thoughts: "Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?"

Thanks to all who posted in this thread.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F


203 posted on 06/30/2005 2:04:30 PM PDT by Archangelsk (Handbasket, hell. Get used to the concept.)
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To: Joe Brower

Thanks for the ping.


204 posted on 06/30/2005 2:45:09 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Gone GF

What are you - out of touch or just myopic? - have you looked at the Demoratic platform? More government more regulations more welfare more bennies more unions more unionism...all paid for by taxes. To add insult to injury - most Democraps are pro abortion and homosexual marriage.

If that isn't loonie bizare enough for you I don't know what is.


205 posted on 06/30/2005 3:07:47 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: trussell
Thanks for the ping!
206 posted on 06/30/2005 3:12:49 PM PDT by Dale 1
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To: anniegetyourgun
If this were my son, I would have a simple graveside service at 12:01 am on 7/4. Never let the freaks have the last word.

Why should you have to? Every family should be entitled to bury their loved ones without some horrible group invading the funeral.

I realize you were probably saying "if I had no choice" but I still think this group is a horrible witness for Christ.

207 posted on 06/30/2005 3:56:52 PM PDT by ozarkgirl (God wants spiritual fruit, not religious nuts)
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To: MindBender26

Where are the cops?? Let them know- check local scumbag hotels and check for Kansas license plates- let air out of tires - no slashing- this is a sick world with sick people in it- my husband I believe would open fire if anyone came to his relatives funeral like that- I would ask for security- errrrrrrrr


208 posted on 06/30/2005 4:15:45 PM PDT by newzhawk
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To: MinuteGal
ping -- folks trying to dishonor the burial of an American Soldier. Maybe you know some folks in St Petersburg/Tampa.

God bless.

209 posted on 06/30/2005 4:51:16 PM PDT by topher (One Nation under God -- God bless and protect our troops)
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To: MindBender26

No one should use a human being's death for political purposes.

I feel for the parents. It's bad enough to lose a child. These people should be flogged.


210 posted on 06/30/2005 5:55:59 PM PDT by followerofchrist
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To: BillF

Thanks for the info!

Unbelievable! I never heard of these guys before yesterday and maybe that's good. It really disgusts me when people call themselves Christian and promote devil influenced activities. I think God is not happy with gays, but this is insane. How they think they know what God wants is beyond me!


211 posted on 06/30/2005 5:57:27 PM PDT by GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos (Peace on earth! After major whup-a$$)
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To: MindBender26
Do you think maybe your govener could possibly call out the national guard to protect this family and funeral?
212 posted on 06/30/2005 5:59:52 PM PDT by lolhelp
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To: Gone GF

Begone, troll!


213 posted on 06/30/2005 6:31:33 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: Dale 1

You're so welcome! Hope you can either attend or keep them in your thoughts and prayers!!


214 posted on 06/30/2005 6:57:52 PM PDT by trussell (Prayers for the children!)
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To: MindBender26

bttt, thanks...


215 posted on 06/30/2005 7:10:53 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: nmh

Not taking up for this mentally unstable, Phelps piece of crap, but every church should be independent. Otherwise you have such organizations as the National and World council of churches, dictating doctrine to local congregations.

Phelps and crew has been a detriment and embarrassment to all Christian churches, but the evil they do is nothing, compared to the evil the NCC and WCC has done in the name of Christianity.


216 posted on 06/30/2005 7:16:19 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Save the babies, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights-save America!!!-ABORT THE COURT!)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

Actually neither lol- I'm a displaced "Yankee" (MD and NY), although my father's family are all Southerners going way back. I lived in Charleston for several years before coming upstate.


217 posted on 06/30/2005 7:16:49 PM PDT by visualops (http://www.visualops.com)
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To: MindBender26

I cannot attend; FL is too great a distance.

However, please find the earlier thread about the Kansas group's intended disruption at a military funeral last week in Marblehead Mass. Every time the Kansas 'nuts' attempted to disrupt with their chants, as I recall, the local police bugle and bagpipe corps would strike up patriotic music drowning them out, while the town's supporters of the troops, and of freedom, cheered.


218 posted on 06/30/2005 7:53:03 PM PDT by ZOTnot ('We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good'--Hillary, 6/28/2004.)
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To: MindBender26

I know who these "people" are. They were in San Francisco a couple weeks ago.


219 posted on 06/30/2005 9:00:45 PM PDT by stratman1969 (DURBIN MUST GO!!!!!!!!)
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To: Sunshine Sister
I'd love to see a ring of motorcycles around the cemetary. Those cowards wouldn't come near them. Go bikers

That's my thinking. Bikers won't tolerate them. No signs, no bullhorns, no obvious protest. Allow some dignity. Just seeing a biker honor guard lining the route should take care of business very nicely.

220 posted on 06/30/2005 9:08:37 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: Tunehead54

how about . . .

"Hey Phelps, Parliment House is that way" (w/ an arrow)

"Phelps doth protest too much."

"Phelps wants man-gina"


221 posted on 06/30/2005 9:25:50 PM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99
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To: elcid1970; Gone GF
Begone, troll!

You have got to be kidding me. So it's your assertion that all Democrats are a bunch of psychos like Phelps? It sounds like you worship the cult of GOP. Actually, after reading your post here I'm surprised you are not defending Phelps. Thanks to Gone GF for a small voice of sanity.

222 posted on 07/01/2005 1:06:58 AM PDT by thecabal
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To: MindBender26
I wonder where these people get their money to travel to Marblehead, San Francisco, and now Florida??

I cannot imagine the pain this military family will endure because of them. Losing their loved one is bad enough, but to have the funeral desecrated by these POS is beyond belief.
223 posted on 07/01/2005 4:05:30 AM PDT by Humal
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To: rkhampton
A Topeka, Kansas freak has announced plans to disrupt the burial with chants, bull horns and signs that read, "Thank God for IEDs" "God Hates America," "This Soldier Is In Hell," and "God Wanted This Soldier Dead."

This seems to me to be close enough to "yelling fire in a crowded theater" to enable local LE to put these sickos out of business before they can even get started.

224 posted on 07/01/2005 7:02:37 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan..)
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To: MindBender26

I have sent you a private e-mail with some questions. Please get back to me as soon as you can. Thanks.


225 posted on 07/01/2005 8:06:21 AM PDT by JJMom
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To: CyberAnt
I just keep wondering where the Baptist Church stands on this issue and why are they allowing this strange person to be leading a flock under the name of the Baptist Church. I've never known them to sit back and ignore this type of flagrant abuse of a congregation. It's really puzzling to me.

Because his is an independent Baptist church. There are many different Baptist church denominations, and he is not affliated with any of them, so therefor they can't do anything about it except protest what he says/does.

226 posted on 07/01/2005 11:26:39 AM PDT by jdhljc169
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To: MindBender26

Sickos...!!! aargh wish I was closer.


227 posted on 07/01/2005 11:30:25 AM PDT by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: Humal

"I wonder where these people get their money to travel to Marblehead, San Francisco, and now Florida??"

George Soros?

Remember the scene from Forrest Gump showing all the chartered buses that brought protestors into D.C.?

That was pretty accurate, and it was the Communist Party of the Soviet Union that paid for those buses, through the Students for a Democratic Society.


228 posted on 07/01/2005 11:42:11 AM PDT by dsc
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To: JulieRNR21

I signed it.


229 posted on 07/01/2005 11:59:47 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.terrisfight.org & www.conservative-spirit.org... The Schindlers "Never again.")
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To: Lazamataz

I was just thinking a healthy portion of the Flynt treatment is called for here.


230 posted on 07/01/2005 12:48:02 PM PDT by snuffy smiff ("the theory of Communism may be summed up in a single sentence:abolition of private property"-K.Marx)
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To: dsc

"George Soros?"

That's a good possibility. They can't hold regular jobs and do this kind of thing.


231 posted on 07/01/2005 1:24:54 PM PDT by Humal
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BUMP and save


232 posted on 07/01/2005 2:24:28 PM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: MindBender26

ttt
UPDATE to this story. Looks like protest has been called off.
http://baynews9.com/content/36/2005/7/1/104971.html


233 posted on 07/01/2005 5:09:38 PM PDT by devane617
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To: devane617

This is good news--thank goodness for peace for the Stewart family as they say their good-byes.

I hope those who live in the area, and had planned to intercede on the family's behalf, will be able to attend the service and pay this hero's family our respects.


234 posted on 07/01/2005 6:48:01 PM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: krunkygirl
I hope those who live in the area, and had planned to intercede on the family's behalf, will be able to attend the service and pay this hero's family our respects.

Good news!! I have been getting emails off of FR from Veterans groups who are about to head down there. I was getting worried about something ugly breaking out.

235 posted on 07/01/2005 6:52:32 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.And we're unlikely to get a look into this t)
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To: wingnutx
Fred Phelps, the sick protestor, was a fundraiser for Al Gore and even one of his delegates in 1988.

The Freepers need a HUGH sign stating that so folks won't get the twisted notion that he's some sort of conservative with whom other conservatives might agree!

236 posted on 07/01/2005 7:35:43 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: armymarinemom

"I was getting worried about something ugly breaking out."

We may be getting to the point where our country can only be saved by "something ugly."


237 posted on 07/01/2005 8:24:22 PM PDT by dsc
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To: armymarinemom; MindBender26
armymarinemom posted:

Good news!! I have been getting emails off of FR from Veterans groups who are about to head down there. I was getting worried about something ugly breaking out.

Freeper BUMP and prayers for the family and friends for this funeral. Though let's continue to urge people to come.

238 posted on 07/02/2005 7:34:42 AM PDT by topher (One Nation under God -- God bless and protect our troops)
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To: dsc
We may be getting to the point where our country can only be saved by "something ugly."

I just the ugly things happen away from the family as they mourn, and help persuade the Kansas fruit cakes to leave town. Toto had more brains than these folks from Kansas, and Toto was a dog...

239 posted on 07/02/2005 7:40:37 AM PDT by topher (One Nation under God -- God bless and protect our troops)
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To: topher; All

Think we scared them off. See post:

Funeral Protest Apparently Canc. (Group That Celebrates Deaths Of US Soldiers Will Skip St. Pete)


240 posted on 07/02/2005 10:04:21 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: topher; All

Think we scared them off. See post:

Funeral Protest Apparently Canc. (Group That Celebrates Deaths Of US Soldiers Will Skip St. Pete)


241 posted on 07/02/2005 10:05:05 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: MindBender26; trussell

Our Republic is so riddled by Domestic Enemies that I don't think it's salvageable without mass public executions.


242 posted on 07/02/2005 11:16:20 AM PDT by 10mm
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To: 10mm

I think we need to start charging people with treason again! If they live in America, and they trash their country and the country's protectors (the brave men and women serving)...then they need to be charged and executed, or shipped out to another country.


243 posted on 07/02/2005 11:33:29 AM PDT by trussell (Prayers for the children!)
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To: trussell
Woodrow Wilson had Eugene Debs, a Presidential candidate, charged with sedition and thrown in prison for criticizing American involvement in World War I.

Republicans of today don't have the prunes to do what is necessary. I'm ashamed of them.

244 posted on 07/02/2005 12:00:13 PM PDT by 10mm
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To: MindBender26
So if I get this right these idiots believe the US Military is responsible for their lunatic fringe church being bombed?
 
That has to be the most incredible ignorant rant I have ever heard in my life! They are ranting that America is going gay and W is responsible. If nothing else, it looks to me like the complete opposite. What do these morons think when every state in the union is voting down all of these gay rights laws. George W is in favor of amending our constitution to make marriage strictly between a man and a woman.
 
How in the world do they equate this with their homophobic fanaticism? Wow! I thought the liberals were completely off the wall! These lunatics belong in the rubber room!

245 posted on 07/02/2005 12:51:15 PM PDT by Allosaurs_r_us (when I kissed herlips, sucked her finger tips, she thinks I got the magic touch! SQUEALER)
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To: Conservababe

If this psycho Jackass and his followers are not careful he and his group may just get an early unplanned meeting with God. He and his cowards have no idea what they are messing with. Let him come to Texas and find out. Would be happy to arrange a meeting with God for him. Better be lots of law enforement around or there may be "collateral damage".


246 posted on 07/02/2005 1:10:50 PM PDT by Khankrumthebulgar
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To: 10mm
Woodrow Wilson had Eugene Debs, a Presidential candidate, charged with sedition and thrown in prison for criticizing American involvement in World War I.

Not for criticizing -- for obstructing the draft. There had to be something beyond simple dissent to make a criminal charge stick.

I realize it's only a few people calling for locking up war protesters, but it's still enough to worry me. If Clinton acted as you'd have Bush do, there would be a lot of freepers posting from prison or abroad.

247 posted on 07/02/2005 4:24:28 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: upchuck; MindBender26; Echo Talon

What "church" are you talking about. I'm quite familiar with KS.


248 posted on 07/02/2005 7:33:45 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (FAKE conservatism is more dangerous than liberalism <<<---at least you know what you're gonna get!)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

I assumed it would be the wackos from Westboro Baptist.


249 posted on 07/02/2005 9:26:50 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: MindBender26

What time dose it start and what are the directions, We will be there!


250 posted on 07/03/2005 4:25:00 AM PDT by ruffisthudpucker (enjoy!)
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