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New Envoy an Insult: Hartley Steward not happy with the U.S. ambassador
The Toronto Sun ^ | July 3, 2005 | Hartley Steward

Posted on 07/03/2005 9:40:01 PM PDT by quidnunc

• The week began with almost a million people on hand in the sweltering heat for the 25th annual gay pride parade in downtown Toronto, touted by one participant as "the gayest city in North America." Some 80,000 people reportedly participated in the event, more than 900,000 watched. Toronto's mayor and chief of police, who walked proudly side by side, were testimony to just how far this celebration has come since 1981, when a mere 80 brave souls marched and nobody watched.

If you still have trouble with it, get over it. On Tuesday, Canada became the third country in the world to make same-sex marriages legal. The historic vote, after a decade of acrimonious debate, was 158-133. Count on 2 million at the parade next year.

• The new U.S. ambassador to Canada, South Carolina politician and big-league bagman for President George W. Bush, David Wilkins, took up his post last week, presenting his meagre credentials to the governor general on Wednesday. This is his second visit to Canada, the last time being a short trip in 1971.

Wilkins admits he knows little about Canada and Canada/U.S. issues, but he's anxious to learn. Feel free to be insulted as a Canadian.

-snip-

(Excerpt) Read more at torsun.canoe.ca ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bush43; davidwilkins; term2
Well, at least we didn't send some wino scooped up off the street in Muncie, Indiana as ambassador, which is what they deserve.
1 posted on 07/03/2005 9:40:01 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
Meager credentials, what the hell does that mean.
2 posted on 07/03/2005 9:43:39 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: quidnunc
The decadence is shocking in its magnitude...and they desperately want, both in Canada and those so involved here...to brng it full vore (so to speak) onto our shores.

God help us avoid it...and give us the strength to continue to stand firm against it.

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other."- John Adams, Oct. 11, 1798

3 posted on 07/03/2005 9:43:52 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: quidnunc
The decadence is shocking in its magnitude...and they desperately want, both in Canada and those so involved here...to bring it full bore (so to speak) onto our shores.

God help us avoid it...and give us the strength to continue to stand firm against it.

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other."- John Adams, Oct. 11, 1798

4 posted on 07/03/2005 9:44:20 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: satchmodog9

He isn't a State Department career bureaucrat, so he really might be able to get the President's ear. But of course, the ever-so-diplomatic Canadian press insults him for that.


5 posted on 07/03/2005 9:45:37 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (This space intentionally blank) (NRA)
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To: quidnunc
"Toronto, touted by one participant as "the gayest city in North America."

That participant ain't never been to AUSTIN, TX.

6 posted on 07/03/2005 9:47:01 PM PDT by de Buillion (Abortion kills more Democrats than Republicans, More Liberals than Conservatives!)
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To: quidnunc
If you still have trouble with it, get over it.

Trouble? Trouble? Who said they had trouble with it? I didn't say I had trouble with it. I didn't say a thing.

...

...ohhhhhhhhh, I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay,
I sleep all night and I work all day.
(Oh, he's a lumberjack and he's okay,
He sleeps all night and he works all day...)

7 posted on 07/03/2005 9:47:04 PM PDT by RichInOC (...I thought you was SO butch.)
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To: quidnunc
Feel free to be insulted as a Canadian.

Works foe Me!

8 posted on 07/03/2005 9:47:23 PM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: FreedomPoster

Yes, unless you are a career diplomat from a family of diplomats, you have no credibility to the left. I bet David Wilkins knows how to spell meager unlike the author of this piece.


9 posted on 07/03/2005 9:48:29 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: quidnunc

If they're insulted, we should withdraw our ambassador, and they can make their requests by mail.


10 posted on 07/03/2005 9:50:23 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The legislative process is like the digestive process, same end product)
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To: quidnunc
If I were Bush I'd send a braying jackass as ambassador and turn him loose on the streets of Toronto.

-ccm

11 posted on 07/03/2005 9:50:42 PM PDT by ccmay (Question Diversity)
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To: quidnunc

Wilkins admits he knows little about Canada and Canada/U.S. issues, but he's anxious to learn. Feel free to be insulted as a Canadian.

Absolutely no one could insult a Canadian more than they have insulted themselves!!!!!!!


12 posted on 07/03/2005 9:51:15 PM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: ccmay

I think Howard Dean is already employed.


13 posted on 07/03/2005 9:51:41 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The legislative process is like the digestive process, same end product)
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To: quidnunc
"...David Wilkins, took up his post last week, presenting his meagre credentials to the governor general on Wednesday..."

Ambassador Wilkins is the personal representative of the President of the United States of America. If anything is meager in this relationship, it is that freeloading socialist entity which rides comfortably on our shoulders.

14 posted on 07/03/2005 9:52:21 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: quidnunc
David Wilkins: America's next ambassador to Canada
CBC News Online | June 22, 2005


David Wilkins, left, shown with U.S. President George W. Bush in the South Carolina legislature, April 18, 2005. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)
David Wilkins is a politician and lawyer from Greenville, S.C., and he's U.S. President George W. Bush's pick to be the next American ambassador to Canada.

CBC correspondent Henry Champ describes Wilkins as a conservative, both fiscally and socially. Wilkins was a Republican fundraiser in the presidential campaigns of both George W. Bush and his father, George H. W. Bush.

Since 1994, he has served as Speaker in the South Carolina legislature. He's also a lawyer in the firm of Wilkins & Madden.

Oct. 12, 1946:
David Horton Wilkins is born.

1968:
Graduates from Clemson University in South Carolina.

1971:
Receives a law degree from the University of South Carolina.

1971-1976:
Serves as a first lieutenant in the U.S. army and army reserve. It is during this time that Wilkins makes his first and only visit to Canada.

1981:
First elected to the South Carolina legislature.

1992:
Elected house Speaker pro tempore in the South Carolina legislature.

1994:
Republicans take over the South Carolina house and Wilkins is elected Speaker, a position he would hold until 2005.

2001:
Senator Strom Thurmond offers Wilkins a federal district judgeship. President Bush approaches Wilkins to be ambassador to Chile. In both cases, Wilkins says he wishes to finish the legislative session in South Carolina.

2004:
Serves as chairman of the Bush-Cheney re-election campaign in South Carolina.

2005:
In a ceremony is Washington, D.C., Wilkins is sworn in as the new U.S. ambassador to Canada, following Bush's nomination.
15 posted on 07/03/2005 9:53:02 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: quidnunc

Canada? Where is that? Must be some county in Mass.


16 posted on 07/03/2005 9:54:03 PM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: quidnunc

Heard Pres. Bush's first choice was his dog Spot.


17 posted on 07/03/2005 10:10:05 PM PDT by citizencon
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To: SmithL

Mee two.


18 posted on 07/03/2005 10:13:42 PM PDT by ONETWOONE (onetwoone)
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To: quidnunc
"...• The new U.S. ambassador to Canada, South Carolina politician and big-league bagman for President George W. Bush, David Wilkins, took up his post last week, presenting his meagre credentials to the governor general on Wednesday. This is his second visit to Canada...

Why should we send someone important to a country that is not?

19 posted on 07/03/2005 10:14:55 PM PDT by albee (A paranoid schizophrenic is somebody who just found out what is going on.)
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To: quidnunc

---If you still have trouble with it, get over it. ---

The voice of Democracy.


20 posted on 07/03/2005 10:16:14 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: quidnunc
Wilkins admits he knows little about Canada and Canada/U.S. issues, but he's anxious to learn. Feel free to be insulted as a Canadian.

This is a common mistake among the left. They think it is the job of U.S. Ambassadors in particular and the State Department in general to take back to the U.S. administration the views of the foreign government. It is not. That is the job of their own ambassador to us. It is the job of the U.S. Ambassador in a foreign country to present to the foreign government the views of the United States. He need not know any more about Canada than the fact that he is in Canada. His job is to understand U.S policy and present it and explain it to the Canadians. Not the other way around.

21 posted on 07/03/2005 10:18:15 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: de Buillion; quidnunc
"Toronto, touted by one participant as "the gayest city in North America."

I think next year the San Fran gay pride parade and the Toronto gay prode parade should all get on buses, drive to a neutral location (like St Louis) and fight it out for the title. The pay-per-view take could pay off the deficit.

22 posted on 07/03/2005 10:21:15 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Proud to be 100% heteronormative.)
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To: quidnunc
In all seriousness, most administrations send a lot of ambassadors out that have no clue what the heck's going on in the host country. President's tend to send donors and friends. Clinton did it a lot (one of his China ambassadors was so cluless he didn't know they persecute Christians there) and unfortunately, so has Dubya.
23 posted on 07/03/2005 10:24:11 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Proud to be 100% heteronormative.)
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To: Always A Marine
Marine, It seems to this swabbie that you are being a bit over-kind to our pathetic Canuck neighbors.

It is a sad testament to the decadence built into the clock. I well remember the day in the 50's when we had exchange RCN aviators in my squadron from Halifax; and substantial technology was provided our ASW forces by our brethren to the North.

Sad commentary on the unmerciful historical calendar! And, regrettably, the cork no longer fits in the bottle.

Happy 4th -- and "Semper Fi" to you and yours.
24 posted on 07/03/2005 10:42:54 PM PDT by dk/coro
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To: dk/coro
I see you've beached yourself far from the water, Rustpicker! Treading in a sea of sand -- Arrgh...

Your comment about the decadence of the clock is spot on, and reveal a student of human nature. Best to you and yours, sir, on this our Independence Day. Semper Fidelis...

25 posted on 07/03/2005 10:56:16 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: thoughtomator

And .. when the terrorists start blowing them up .. tell them to take a number!


26 posted on 07/03/2005 11:35:20 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: satchmodog9
Actually, he's Canadian, so he's using the British spelling.

His country doesn't use the spelling reforms that Noah Webster instituted in the U. S.

Example:

British: colour

American: color
27 posted on 07/03/2005 11:51:08 PM PDT by Cheburashka
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To: quidnunc
the 25th annual gay pride parade in downtown Toronto, touted by one participant as "the gayest city in North America."

If you still have trouble with it, get over it.

Kinda hard to do, since, many of us remember that from this gayest of North American cities came Patient Zero The gayest carrier of the deadliest disease of the 20th century, on Air Canada (or is that Air Kanuckistan?).

We'll get over it when you take your dammed gay disease back!

28 posted on 07/04/2005 12:33:13 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: quidnunc

What's a Hartley Steward?


29 posted on 07/04/2005 12:34:48 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: satchmodog9
Don't get silly.
they use Kanuckistani English there.
30 posted on 07/04/2005 12:37:04 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: quidnunc

Oh yeah, and Hartley...my opinion on Canada remains what it was. You guys export your great comedians to the world. The mediocre ones have to settle for going into domestic politics.


31 posted on 07/04/2005 12:39:38 AM PDT by RichInOC (...somebody had to say it...why not me?)
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To: FreedomCalls
This is a common mistake among the left [and among the ignorant]. They think it is the job of U.S. Ambassadors in particular and the State Department in general to take back to the U.S. administration the views of the foreign government. It is not. That is the job of their own ambassador to us. It is the job of the U.S. Ambassador in a foreign country to present to the foreign government the views of the United States. He need not know any more about Canada than the fact that he is in Canada. His job is to understand U.S policy and present it and explain it to the Canadians. Not the other way around.

LOL!

That's got to leave a mark. LOL

32 posted on 07/04/2005 12:42:49 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: quidnunc
In other news...

KARLA HOMOLKA, the schoolgirl killer, failed on Wednesday to convince a Quebec court to grant an injunction banning media reporting of her post-incarceration life. Something about media reports only serving to lead vengeful killers to her door. Media lawyers argued that Homolka was a danger to the public and we have a right to know what she's up to.

Could HOMOlka be a, well...?

33 posted on 07/04/2005 12:47:27 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: quidnunc
Toronto's mayor and chief of police, who walked proudly side by side

Probably dressed in drag, I bet.
34 posted on 07/04/2005 1:17:23 AM PDT by graycamel
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To: quidnunc

How about Carol Mosley Brown? She's probably looking for another cushy job.


35 posted on 07/04/2005 3:32:07 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Jeff Head

Adams had a point. And it's even more relevant today.


36 posted on 07/04/2005 3:33:28 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Publius6961

With a name like Hartley, he has to be gay.


37 posted on 07/04/2005 3:40:53 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Cheburashka

More outcome based education. Be it British spelling or not, he is still a fool.


38 posted on 07/04/2005 7:40:13 AM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: satchmodog9

I just said his spelling was correct north of the border.

The fool part I agree 100%


39 posted on 07/04/2005 8:28:38 AM PDT by Cheburashka
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