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Is the Drug War a Conservative or Liberal Issue? (Warning: I am a Newbie to starting posts)
Sensei Ern

Posted on 07/05/2005 9:30:27 AM PDT by Sensei Ern

For many years, I have been a strong opponent of legalizing drugs. As you read this, remember that I am still against drug legalization, but I have more sympathy for the opposing argument.

The reason I have been opposed to drug legalization is to protect children. I grew up in a home that was one step up from a crack house..at least we had heat and food. I know first hand what can happen when a child lives in those conditions.

As a counter, I have always felt that use of tobacco and alcohol should be legal for those of a responsible age.

The reason I am considering a change is because of the pain I went through this last month. Four weeks ago, I had a root canal done on a tooth...it was Friday. Once the Novocain wore off, I was in serious pain because the doctor was inexperienced and left a partial root. I experienced pain worse than listening to Rosanne Barr sing the National Anthem. He forgot to write a prescription.

I called the emergency number only to be told I could see the doctor on Monday. TWO WHOLE DAYS IN EXTREME PAIN! I had some 800mg Ibuprofen in the medicine cabinet. That only took away enough pain to convince myself to not commit suicide to stop the pain.

On Monday, I was given a prescription of Tylenol 3 with Codeine and an antibiotic. That took away the pain. Until it ran out. Again, extreme pain. Another dentist did another root canal...and again did not get the whole root. I made sure he gave me a prescription for the pain, before I left the office.

Finally, when that ran out, and another dentist completed the root canal, the pain has subsided.

To be in the kind of debilitating pain I was in, cannot be described. Bill Cosby once talked about taking your bottom lip and pulling it over your head...that comes close.

I have always been an advocate of personal responsibility. That conflicted with knowing that some of the drugs offered today are so dangerous that they needed to be regulated. Then, I thought back about how things were a hundred years ago. The doctor prescribed a treatment, and you either made it yourself, or went to the pharmacist, who mixed up the more potential drugs.

Back then, the only regulation was, could you afford the cost? Drugs were available, and the pharmacist would determine whether you were abusing. If you OD'd on a drug from abuse, you died and life went on for others. But, you could get drugs if they were needed, and you did not have to wait until Monday. You didn't need to wait for approval from anyone to use a drug.

That is enough about that for the moment.

If drugs were to be legalized, they should be regulated like alcohol and cigarettes...have a legal purchasing age. Also, if you do harm to another while under the influence of anything, you should be held personally responsible...to the fullest extent, especially capital punishment for causing a death. If you are taking drugs to get high, strap yourself into a chair and sleep it off.

If drugs were immediately legalized, we could expect some immediate effects. For one, the drug addicts would run out and by everything, and we would have a rash of overdosing for about a month. The rest of us could then go on with our lives, only mourning the loss of a relative, instead of daily living with the horror of a drug addict in our lives.

Currently, I believe law enforcement should be stronger. But, I could be moved to undecided if I heard good arguments for the opposite.

--Pray for our troops --Pray they have wisdom to do the right thing --Pray they remain courageous --Pray they know we love and support them --Pray they get the equipment they need to do the job --Pray for their safe return home to a hero’s welcome


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To: MEGoody

Much more of those violent crimes are committed by gangs over drug turf. Legalize drugs and you will defund the gangs. With no source of income, they will disband.


51 posted on 07/05/2005 10:15:35 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Politicalities
And smoking is dangerous.

Not suddenly and unexpectedly. And both parties know that the smoker is smoking and can address the situation appropriate.

And drinking is dangerous.

I don't think you want to hear what I have to say about alcohol.

And eating fatty foods is dangerous.

Only to the eater.

And NASCAR is dangerous. And bungee jumping is dangerous.

Only to the participants and those who choose to be observers.

Nice try, but you are attempting to compare apples and oranges.

When your sister has been raped and thrown out a window by someone who is high, let me know.

52 posted on 07/05/2005 10:15:43 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: softwarecreator
I'm likely to agree with you except when it affects pushers hanging around schools ... those scum should hang!

And this is another important pro-legalization point. Ask a schoolkid whether he'd find it easier to get marijuana or alcohol, and most of them will answer marijuana. Why? Because alcohol is sold by licensed dealers who have a strong financial interest in keeping their licenses, and therefore a strong interest in not selling to minors. If an alcohol dealer sells to a minor, he risks his livelihood, and that's not a risk most of them are willing to take just to make a sale.

Drug dealers, on the other hand, operate outside the law. They're already risking their freedom by simply being in their business, and it's not much of an increase in marginal risk for them to sell to minors. Alcohol dealers check ID, drug dealers don't.

53 posted on 07/05/2005 10:16:56 AM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: MEGoody
Yes, I have a need. A need to see America's Constitution restored. The WOD has been one of the biggest blows to the Constitution. And the problem it attempted to solve was not worth the solution imposed.

And read this again, slowly : I am not a drug user. Shall I send you a urine sample to prove it?
54 posted on 07/05/2005 10:17:19 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Politicalities
It's your @#$%^!! body. If you want to put crystal meth in it

Agreed, if you are that stupid, fine ... purifies the gene pool when they OD.

I am always confused on why alcohol is legal but weed isn't ... how is this rationalized?

55 posted on 07/05/2005 10:17:23 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: Sensei Ern
Is the Drug War a Conservative vs Liberal issue?

No...

It's a Constitutionalist vs Prohibitionist issue.

The Constitutution's 14th Amendment makes clear that no law shall abridge our rights to life, liberty or property without due process.

Prohibitionary type laws do so. There is no delegated government power to prohibit in our Constitution.

No level of government, fed, state or local, is authorized to outright prohibit guns, smoking, booze, drugs, etc.. -- Governments are empowered to 'reasonably regulate' such objects, within the Constitutional bounds that protect individual rights, privileges and immunities.

What is truly amazing is that such a basic & understandable Constitutional concept can be opposed by certain groups of Conservatives & Liberals alike.
56 posted on 07/05/2005 10:17:28 AM PDT by musanon
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To: Sensei Ern
I am still against drug legalization, but I have more sympathy for the opposing argument.

Whenever I consider a world of legalized drug posession/use I think of two words:

Democratic. Underground.

57 posted on 07/05/2005 10:17:28 AM PDT by GOP_Raider (http://justblogbaby.blogspot.com)
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To: Sensei Ern
Second, my attitude is that if we release some drugs, release them all. Let the dummies OD and get them out of the gene pool.

How many innocent people will each druggie take out of the gene pool along with himself?

I just don't think it's a good idea to facilitate more druggies high on all sorts of stuff, legal or not, staggering around our streets..

The death and violence we see from abuse of alcohol is bad enough.

58 posted on 07/05/2005 10:18:03 AM PDT by k2blader (Was it wrong to kill Terri Shiavo? YES - 83.8%. FR Opinion Poll.)
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To: Politicalities
His sister is much, much, much likelier to be attacked by somebody who's drunk than by somebody who's high.

Could be. But I don't think you want to hear my position on alcohol.

And spend billions of dollars enforcing the prohibition.

We're spending billions anyway. If they don't get arrested for being high, they end up getting arrested for some other crime they commit. Personally, I'd rather head them off at the pass.

59 posted on 07/05/2005 10:18:05 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: downtoliberalism

What do you mean? Do you not understand the concept or do you not understand why we have crimes against getting high in your living room and watching Sponge Bob Squarepants?

If it is the latter, they are put in place by people who want to control you and are happy pass laws and hire thugs to do it for them.


60 posted on 07/05/2005 10:19:39 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Politicalities

So you say drugs should be legalized and "regulated" yet you also say it's not the government's business? Make up your mind.


61 posted on 07/05/2005 10:20:13 AM PDT by k2blader (Was it wrong to kill Terri Shiavo? YES - 83.8%. FR Opinion Poll.)
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To: Politicalities
Yep, we have a dual standard here ... you can legally get drunk, but not high.

I'm lucky, I do neither, but I just don't get the hypocrisy.

62 posted on 07/05/2005 10:20:28 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: mysterio
And the problem it attempted to solve was not worth the solution imposed.

If we didn't spend the money arresting them for drug sales/use, we'd be arresting them for something else.

I am not a drug user.

I never said you were. You might want to read my post again, slowly.

63 posted on 07/05/2005 10:21:19 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

You are crazy. It is ILLEGAL to rape someone, just like to is illegal to take drugs.


64 posted on 07/05/2005 10:21:38 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: downtoliberalism

"I have never understood victimless crimes."

Me neither! As far as I'm concerned, if there's no victim, there's no crime.

Along those lines, I think drugs, gambling and prostitution should all be legalized. If people screw themselves over in their indulgence of any one of those, so be it. They should be free to do that. But they should also know that when they do, its nobody else's fault (or problem) but their's.


65 posted on 07/05/2005 10:22:01 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: mysterio; Blood of Tyrants; Sensei Ern
He just made it up so he could get high.

No, he made it up so that he could make an argument for legalizing drugs. He had to suffer a few days without any pain medication, therefore drugs should be legalized. I'm just not buying it. It was the 2nd dentist that tipped me off. That's why I said specious - it sounds plausible but it's not. The whole thing is made up.

66 posted on 07/05/2005 10:22:03 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (We're living in the Dark Ages.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Legalize drugs and you will defund the gangs.

So legalize drugs and the guys who sell them will suddenly become law-abiding citizens?

Riiiiiiiight.

67 posted on 07/05/2005 10:22:27 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Indy Pendance

"(The gov has probably a written plan of action if they go that way, laws and guidelines, etc already developed)"

The government does not make plans waiting for the perfect time to impliment them. They do look at trends and determine how to respond. Most of the time, though, the people of the government have their heads up their behinds trying to figure out how they can keep their cushy job rather than how they can impliment some grand scheme.


68 posted on 07/05/2005 10:22:50 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Christian, Comedian, Husband,Opa, Dog Owner, former Cat Co-dweller, and all around good guy.)
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To: MEGoody
Not suddenly and unexpectedly. And both parties know that the smoker is smoking and can address the situation appropriate.

Sorry, who's "both"? And anyone who lights a cigarette is aware that he's taking a risk with his health, just as anyone who lights a joint or pops a pill has the same awareness.

I don't think you want to hear what I have to say about alcohol.

Oh, but I do. If you think alcohol should be banned, please say so. Say it loudly and frequently. Demonstrate beyond doubt that you refuse to learn from history and are perfectly willing to follow policies that are proven failures.

And eating fatty foods is dangerous.

Only to the eater.

Ah. So you're saying that consuming drugs is dangerous to other than the consumer, because drugs Take Control of you and make you do Bad Things. Do you call yourself a conservative? Because most conservatives believe in something called personal responsibility. Most conservatives believe that if you willingly take part in an activity that might cause you to do something illegal, you get the blame for your actions, not the activity or substance that led to them. Should we ban books that are critical of the government, since reading them might cause people to take violent action?

When your sister has been raped and thrown out a window by someone who is high, let me know.

Okay. I think that we should execute all people who choose handles that start with ME, because those people are dangerous. When your sister has been raped and thrown out a window by somebody whose name starts with ME, let me know. Until then, you have no right to an opinion. Neener neener neener.

Hey, logical fallacies are fun!

69 posted on 07/05/2005 10:22:51 AM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: headsonpikes
I think everyone would agree that here at FreeRepublic.com, we are in absolute unison with regard to this matter.

BWAHAHAHA! (SNORT!)

70 posted on 07/05/2005 10:23:16 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: softwarecreator
I am always confused on why alcohol is legal but weed isn't ... how is this rationalized?

It isn't as if we didn't try to ban alcohol. The stuff was deemed to be enough of a scourge on society that we criminalized it for many years in the early 20th century. It's just difficult to ban an addictive recreational substance once it's been legal for so long. The arguments for banning alcohol are much stronger than the arguments for banning marijuana.

71 posted on 07/05/2005 10:24:05 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Quick1
Plenty of people who do dumb or violent things while sober, too.

True enough. But study after study has shown that drug and alcohol use are the biggest contributors to violence, particularly in the home.

So let me know when YOUR sister gets raped and thrown out a window by someone who is high.

72 posted on 07/05/2005 10:24:08 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Sensei Ern

"As a positive side effect, most drug abusers are liberals."

Hard core Abusers of hard substances?...perhaps...

Hemp smokers in general?...

*cough*....stereotype....*cough*

Working class people dont like crime any more than anyone else....

Cut hemp from the herd and you'll get so many tips on the hard crap ,they cant all be checked...


73 posted on 07/05/2005 10:24:50 AM PDT by Crim (I may be a Mr "know it all"....but I'm also a Mr "forgot most of it"...)
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To: softwarecreator
I am always confused on why alcohol is legal but weed isn't ... how is this rationalized?

History, mainly. There is absolutely no logical rationale for the one to be legal and the other to be prohibited, other than the fact that historically alcohol was the drug of choice for the powerful and marijuana was the drug of choice for the powerless.

74 posted on 07/05/2005 10:25:09 AM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

"He had to suffer a few days without any pain medication, therefore drugs should be legalized".

Who cares if he never suffered a second? Or for that matter if he made it up?

Are you saying that as "free" people, we should only be allowed to do what the government "allows" us to do?

Exactly how is that philosophy squared w/ our Constitution?


75 posted on 07/05/2005 10:25:46 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Quick1

I'm up for that...we can all drive big nerf-mobiles and wear goalie outfits everywhere...


76 posted on 07/05/2005 10:26:36 AM PDT by Crim (I may be a Mr "know it all"....but I'm also a Mr "forgot most of it"...)
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To: k2blader
So you say drugs should be legalized and "regulated" yet you also say it's not the government's business? Make up your mind.

If I were the dictator, I'd legalize drugs and impose no mandatory regulations on them. (My assumption is that probably private regulatory companies such as the Underwriters Laboratories and Consumers Union would arise to give voluntary stamps of approval to various products, as consumers would likely demand.) But I'm not the dictator, and getting drugs legalized, regulated, and taxed would be far, far preferable than the current situation, and a lot more politically possible than just getting the government to leave everybody the hell alone.

77 posted on 07/05/2005 10:27:30 AM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: need_a_screen_name
Too many people sitting in jail for non-violent simple possession crimes. Let them out and make room for violent offenders.

The trouble with this is that many are only there for "non-violent simple possession" because they plea bargained to a lesser charge. If you were to get rid of the easy plea bargain system we use, and charged, for example, weapons charges whenever they applied, I might agree. But only if we also banned recreational drug users from any public medical assistance. And, yes, I include tobacco and alcohol in this.

78 posted on 07/05/2005 10:27:40 AM PDT by LexBaird (tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: need_a_screen_name
Well said. Lets make a bit more room for real criminals, you know like, Pedophiles!

I've heard of people spending more time in prison for a gram of cocaine than a pervert who steals the innocence of a child. hmmmmmmmm! makes ya wonder.
79 posted on 07/05/2005 10:27:59 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: MEGoody

"And eating fatty foods is dangerous."
>> Only to the eater.

Not really. What if some tub of lard gets a heart attack while driving?

>> When your sister has been raped and thrown out a window >> by someone who is high, let me know.

Try blaming the a##hole - not the drugs.


80 posted on 07/05/2005 10:28:34 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Junior_G
The arguments for banning alcohol are much stronger than the arguments for banning marijuana

A good point, yet the hypocisy continues.  Works along the same line as you can take a girl out and spend lots of money in an attempt to end up in bed with that person, yet prostitution is illegal.

81 posted on 07/05/2005 10:28:36 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: softwarecreator
I'm likely to agree with you except when it affects pushers hanging around schools ... those scum should hang!

Pushers wouldn't hang around schools if drugs were legalized. There would be no reason for them to do so. As a matter of fact, your neighborhood drug dealer would disappear in areas where it was legal to buy drugs. The only people selling bootleg alcohol are in areas where it is illegal to buy it.

82 posted on 07/05/2005 10:28:48 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Sensei Ern

We have action plans for if we get attacked by any country. It's a fact. We might not need to implement the Canadian action plan, or the Belgiun action plan, but, they are there. The gov may not have an 'official' plan to regulate, but I believe have discussed this, have some type of plan ready to go 'in case', covering how they'll tax it, FDA rules, etc. ready to discuss in congress. What do you think those lawmakers do? All they do is plan new laws and regulations. If they can successfully regulate it, to generate dollars, they'd do it in a heartbeat.


83 posted on 07/05/2005 10:29:08 AM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
Anyway, the more I see how ineffective the WOD is, the more I say we should give up that effort.

Society should not encourage elements of society that break society down. (They should not for example encourage homosexuality for the same reson.) But the War on Drugs has reached a point where everyone involved has a vested interest in the status quo.

I would favor busting all users as well as suppliers and putting them in mandatory treatment centers. Coupled with a media campaign to show that "all you are gonna do is spend you best years in treatment".

That said, if we are not willing to go far enough to stop the use, then decriminalization seems the next step. I believe the full legalization (like alcohol and smokes) has been tried and has not been pretty . (the Netherlands)

84 posted on 07/05/2005 10:29:44 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: MEGoody
So legalize drugs and the guys who sell them will suddenly become law-abiding citizens?

Riiiiiiiight.

Of course not! Ha ha! Because, duuuuh, all the Capone-era violent gangs that were responsible for distributing alcohol during the nation's disastrous experiment with Prohibition are still controlling the alcohol business today. Yessir, there's no such thing as a law-abiding purveyor of alcohol!

Oh, wait...

85 posted on 07/05/2005 10:30:00 AM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: Politicalities
marijuana was the drug of choice for the powerless

Ah, I see, it was a class thing.  Big Brother watching out for us!

86 posted on 07/05/2005 10:30:24 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: Indy Pendance
"I just saw a undercover cop show the other night. They had the undercover guy dressed as a heroin addict, a team of 6-8 other protecting the cop (two were on bikes, a couple cars, a video van), surveillance equipment, the whole nine yards. Who did they bust?"



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What is worse, is when the cops go out on the streets as drug dealers, and then bust the people THEY themselves just sold drugs to. That is totally sick. Who is the real criminal in cases like these?
87 posted on 07/05/2005 10:30:54 AM PDT by need_a_screen_name
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To: Blood of Tyrants
As a matter of fact, your neighborhood drug dealer would disappear in areas where it was legal to buy drugs

Yep, and this is one of the better reasons to de-criminalize it.

88 posted on 07/05/2005 10:31:27 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: Pessimist
Are you saying that as "free" people, we should only be allowed to do what the government "allows" us to do?

It is because of the cost to everyone else when you get screwed up and have to have everyone else take care of you.

It is the same with AIDS and other "freedom" junk.

If you would be a hermit and never have contact with anyone else who would be burdened by your garbage, then do what you want.

Just leave everyone else out of it.

89 posted on 07/05/2005 10:32:05 AM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: MEGoody

It happened after Prohibition ended.

Truthfully, many would leave the life of crime because they could no longer make an easy buck. Selling drugs is easy, robbing stores is dangerous and the pay is crappy.


90 posted on 07/05/2005 10:32:05 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

That's not true. There will always be vices and those gangs that make money on vices will just exploit other vices. I saw an ad on Fox News the other night that they are now smuggling terrorists into the US.

Some kids form and join gangs for protection. A personal example is what I witnessed on the bus Friday. A latino glanced at a black guy's latino girlfriend and the black guy threatened the latino with death...not just a "I'll kill you," but a full blown 10 minute threat of following him home and killing his whole family and all.

I would not blame the latino for joining a gang to protect himself from this lunatic. Then, when this lunatic tries to follow through with his threats, encounters a gang, he forms his own gang.

Whole thing sounds like a bad episode of "Walker, Texas Ranger".


91 posted on 07/05/2005 10:36:13 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Christian, Comedian, Husband,Opa, Dog Owner, former Cat Co-dweller, and all around good guy.)
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To: Sensei Ern

I'm with Clarence Thomas on opposing the federal WOD's abuse of the commerce clause, and I think the WOD is one of the worst policies in the history of the US.


92 posted on 07/05/2005 10:36:31 AM PDT by wingnutx (Seabees Can Do!)
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To: KC_for_Freedom

It's a tough topic. Continue the ineffective WOD, regulate it, or a 'free for all'. You know, the gov will never do the free for all, they want a piece of the pie. And until they can figure a way to generate income from drugs, they'll continue with the current status quo.


93 posted on 07/05/2005 10:37:18 AM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Sensei Ern

I would bet that this occurred in state that did not have CC. The proper response to this is to pull out your handgun and blow the idiot away. Repeat as often as necessary.


94 posted on 07/05/2005 10:40:10 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: mysterio

If you can't keep prison inmates from getting high, just think of what level of government control would be necessary to keep the citizenry-at-large from doing so.


95 posted on 07/05/2005 10:40:10 AM PDT by wingnutx (Seabees Can Do!)
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To: Indy Pendance
What an absolute waste of tax payer's money, 6-8 cops at a salary, plus all the paper work, lawyers, da's, judges time, etc. These cops should have been out there looking for rapists, murderers, terrorists, or the drug king pins, not the small street users.

That is one of the most stupid lines of reasoning I've ever encountered. Let's just let petty crime go unabated, because the dollar amounts are so low. Graffiti? No big. $20 muggings? Let it slide. Ripping off hubcaps? So what, cops should be pursuing Mafia Dons instead.

96 posted on 07/05/2005 10:40:16 AM PDT by LexBaird (tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: Pessimist
I think drugs, gambling and prostitution should all be legalized.

You are in the wrong forum. You want the DU, down the hall and to your left.

97 posted on 07/05/2005 10:40:25 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (We're living in the Dark Ages.)
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To: Indy Pendance

They can generate much more income from the legalized sale of drugs than they can from stealing $1200 here and there from street dealers. And the plus side is they don't have to spend the money prosecuting and jailing the offenders.


98 posted on 07/05/2005 10:42:15 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: MEGoody
So let me know when YOUR sister gets raped and thrown out a window by someone who is high.

Hey, suppose his sister caught a bullet in the crossfire from a violent turf war fought over illegal, drugs, can he have an opinion then?

What if his sister had her home burglarized by a desperate addict forced to pay prices that are inflated several orders of magnitude by the war on drugs, can he have an opinion then?

What if his sister was a judge in Colombia, executed by powerful and exceedingly well-funded organized criminals, then can he have an opinion?

Suppose his sister is going broke paying higher taxes both to pay for this insane civil war and to make up the shortfall from billions of dollars flowing through the entirely tax-free black market, is he allowed to have an opinion then?

If his sister's best friend died of an accidental overdose because her drug of choice was not labeled for potency like alcohol is, then does he get to have an opinion?

Many of us have sisters who are harmed in some way, large or small, by the War on Drugs. And every single sister who's been raped and thrown out a window by a drug addict in the past century has been done so while drugs were illegal. Drug prohibition has not prevented it.

99 posted on 07/05/2005 10:42:20 AM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: Politicalities
I sure do. It's your @#$%^!! body. If you want to put crystal meth in it, or put alcohol in it, or put nicotine in it, or put Drano in it, it's your business. Not mine. And definitely not the government's.

Give me the right to shoot tweekers dead on the spot if they assault me or mine, and I might agree. But until the meth heads quietly lock themselves in a closet while they trip, then it most definitely IS the government's business, because they are effecting all the citizens around them.

100 posted on 07/05/2005 10:43:55 AM PDT by LexBaird (tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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