Muslims Crowding London's Mosques Say They Fear Backlash in Aftermath of Bombings

AP ^ | Jul 8, 2005 | Jill Lawless

[JasonC]

"What's religion got to do with it?"

It is the motive of this capital crime. What has greed got to do with robbery?

[JasonC]

We bombed Berlin, invaded Normandy, slogged through the Hurtgen, stormed across the Rhine... Seems to me we are in pretty good shape lecturing people to police up their nutjobs, since we expend endless blood and treasure to police up both ours and theirs.

[tobyhill]

If these Muslim people, good or bad whatever that separation may or may not be, are worthy of God (they're not) and has proclaimed Jesus Christ as their savior (they won't) then they will be forgiven. Why is it that every place "Mohammad" walked is now sacred but Christians are forbidden from visiting the Church of the Nativity? Sounds like Muslim Scum get everything they want in the world even at the expense of Christians and Jews so I refuse to be an apologist for these rotten teeth rag heads. I personally consider them the pond scum of the earth and have no forgiveness for them in my heart. If God wants to strike me down for my attitude towards these rotten camel jockeys then so be it but that's between me and him. Remember Bosnia, hundreds of Christians are on world trial for the deaths of Muslims but not ONE Muslim is on world trial for the slaughter of Thousands of Christians, now isn't that a wonderful double standard? Give the Palestinians half of Israel and they still won't be satisfied until the world pushes the Jews into the sea, now isn't that people of peace?

[Myrddin]

It's a way around letting the judges treat them like shoplifters.

If they are shoplifting Muslims, I would offer them the Sharia law they want so bad. Chop off their right hands. If they have committed murder, chop off their heads. They expect to violate the law and get off with a slap on the hand. I don't think they would be as interested if the penalty was swift, sure and severe.

[ohioWfan]

It IS between you and Him.

For ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God........Romans 3:23

We ALL, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way, and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us ALL.........Isaiah 53: 6

ALL of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags.... Isaiah 64:6

For God so loved THE WORLD that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.......John 3:16

[lastfreeamerican]

Blanket statements about entire groups of people and the triumph of emotion over reason do not a conservative make. In fact, that's more in line with what Michael Moore's films do. Come to think of it, that's also what the Storm Troopers and the Bolsheviks did. But hey, carry on. Keep reducing those annoyingly complex issues down to Marvel Comic simplicity. The rest of us (including the Bush Administration) will continue to have the spine necessary to view this in real-world terms. Adios.

[sheik yerbouty]

In fact, the term "kuffir" means dust.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

I don't speak, of course, to the vultures who seeing the September 11's images scornfully giggle "Good. Americans-got-it-good." I speak to the people who, though neither stupid nor evil, delude themselves in pietism or uncertainty or doubt. And to them I say: Wake up folks, wake up!

As intimidated as you are by the fear of going against the stream and looking racist (a grossly erroneous word, by the way, because the problem has nothing to do with a race: it has to do with a religion) you don't understand or don't want to understand that a Reverse Crusade is on the march.

As blinded as you are by the myopia and stupidity of the Politically Correct, you don't realize or don't want to realize that a war of religion is being carried out. A war they call Jihad.

The Rage and the Pride,

-Orianna Fallaci

[an italian]

Oriana has always the right words for the right moments.

I agree with her. Once again.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

I was so disappointed when I walked into the Barnes & Noble-located in Park Slope-last night and was told that her most recently written jeremiad, The Force of Reason, wouldn't be released until this coming October.

:(

[an italian]

October??????????????? How October????????????

Next week I'll be in NY and I wanted to buy it... Nooooooooo!!!!!

In anyway, I've already read it in Italian... Hehe...

[libsl]

I don't entirely understand the political structure of Muslim factions, but I thought the Spanish Fatwa represented the Spanish Muslim leadership only.

So who is the big kahuna of English Muslims that we can expect to issue a "world fatwa", and can we expect Cat Stevens to issue a statement of condemnation from his London Islamic school?

In my opinion, Muslim Londoners should fear another terrorist attack from their Islamic brothers more than they should fear a backlash from Christian Londoners.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

(Envious Smiley.)

:7)

-good times, G.J.P. (Jr.)

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

http://www.jamestown.org/news_details.php?news_id=38

[sheik yerbouty]

Bravo! Molte bene!

[brownsfan]

"(btw, my comments about violence yesterday were in accordance with the rules of FR..........not from any arrogance as you implied)."

First things first. The thread wasn't pulled, so obviously the moderator thought the comments were within the spirit of FR. Therefore, it's logical to assume you were being overly sensitive. Then you asked me to rephrase before you'd address my question. To me, that is a little condescending right there. I'd rather you didn't respond then tell me to rephase my question. Having said that, I do like to debate. I will defend my positions, and I try to learn.

"do you seriously think that, if we had the technology in WWII to defeat Hitler and win the war without killing innocent German women and children, that we would not have done so?"

I think you do what you have to in war. We don't target women and children, as muslims do. However, war can be ugly, and there will be times of collateral damage. Is the life of a civilian worth more than the life of a soldier? We did drop atomic bombs on Japan. We had the ability to defeat Japan without using atomic weapons.
Also, this is a different kind of war, a different enemy. There is no "Hitler" to defeat. If we captured and executed Osama bin Laden tomorrow, the war would continue on. The combatants on the muslim side can and will be women and children with bombs strapped to their backs.
I'm telling you, we need to steel ourselves and prepare to do what we need to, however distasteful, or be prepared to learn the Koran.

"Do you think that the babies and toddlers of Muslims should be indiscriminately slaughtered because their fathers follow the Koran? Really?"

Now you get emotional. No, I never advocated that. But in war, ugly things happen. I don't say this lightly. I value all life. But, if civilians die in a necessary action, like the action in Falujah, I won't wring my hands. The enemy would gleefully kill our children. I would advocate targeting military targets, but if they sheild themselves with innocents, I'd kill them rather than allow them to kill our soldiers.
Part of what went wrong in VietNam is we kneecapped our military and wouldn't allow them to really fight. We had to be politically correct, and sensitive.

War can be likened to a street fight. Avoid it at all costs. If you get into it, you WILL get bloody. However, once you start, fight will all you have, or you will take a beating.

[ohioWfan]

We had the ability to defeat Japan without using atomic weapons.

But not without losing far more of our troops, and possibly far more Japanese civilians who were going to fight to the last man, woman and child to defend their homeland.

Part of what went wrong in VietNam is we kneecapped our military and wouldn't allow them to really fight. We had to be politically correct, and sensitive.

You make many good points, but this is not Viet Nam, and we will not, IMO, let PC motives keep us from winning outright.........unless we let a leftist get into the Whitehouse before it's over, who will keep our military from doing what it's trained to do.

I understand that, like the Viet Cong, militant Islamics will strap bombs to children, but is that happening now in Afghanistan or Iraq? And if it were, would it be condoned by the majority of the Muslim community there? (Keep in mind that in most of Iraq, the war is over and we have won).

It is still my position that in this war at this point in time our brilliant military has the capability to minimize the loss of innocent life (and yes, I believe Muslim babies and toddlers are innocent), and that is exactly what we should be doing.

This is a long process, but I firmly believe that freeing Middle East countries from tyranny and empowering them with freedom will have a profound effect on them.

Islam is a false, violent religion, but........as I have discussed with toby.........the people who are born in the Middle East are no more innately sinful than we are. They need to be freed from their darkness.

Just for the record, I am a Christian (a follower of Jesus Christ, that is), and I believe in the Scriptures. Islam doesn't win in the end. It's already been written. The battle belongs to the LORD!

(And GO BROWNS! ;)

[brownsfan]

"but this is not Viet Nam, and we will not, IMO, let PC motives keep us from winning outright.........unless we let a leftist get into the Whitehouse before it's over, who will keep our military from doing what it's trained to do."

Or if we bow to pressure groups who worry about offending muslims.

"Islamics will strap bombs to children, but is that happening now in Afghanistan or Iraq? And if it were, would it be condoned by the majority of the Muslim community there? (Keep in mind that in most of Iraq, the war is over and we have won)."

Not sure they are using children in Iraq. I know that Hezbollah does in Israel. Would muslims approve? Ask the Israelis.

"Just for the record, I am a Christian (a follower of Jesus Christ, that is), and I believe in the Scriptures. Islam doesn't win in the end. It's already been written. The battle belongs to the LORD!"

I am a Christian as well. God helps those who help themselves. I don't believe in predestination. I believe in free will. It's possible that mohammed was the anti-Christ.

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

[ohioWfan]

I see a significant difference between Palestine and Iraq. I would guess that the majority of Palestinian Muslims (some Palestinians are Christians) don't have a problem with killing their babies........something I find deplorable.

We will see what difference American influence makes and the effects of democracy and freedom in Iraq. The two situations are entirely different, IMO.

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

On THAT we can agree!

[RetiredArmy]

Not a freaking chance. Not one.