Posted on 07/08/2005 7:13:25 PM PDT by NZerFromHK
My father owns a business in the CBD area here in Auckland. We have a shop selling Persian rugs next to us and the owner is Iranian himself. He is a moderate Muslim (yep, the MSM definition of it no less) and seems to be very nice to us and other nearby shops' owners. Dad had this conversation with the owner yesterday regarding the London bombing:
Dad: Did you read the papers this morning?
Owner: Yes, a big news event.
Dad: It's sad, isn't it?
Owner: Well, the British got it upon themselves. You know that Americans and British have killed many of us Muslims!
Dad: Do you really mean it? All the people died there are innocent deaths!
Owner: But they have killed many Muslims as a nation!
Dad:...
Owner: So, what do you think about it.
Dad: It's a complicated matter.
(And then he switched to another topic)
And he was fuming over dinner last night. He is a conservative like me, but because he doesn't want to get into argument due to traditional Chinese sense of politeness in conversation, he did not refute the shop owner's words in his face.
It serves as a wake up call for me. I have always imagined the moderate Muslims know the stakes, but now I have to reevaluate whether I could trust even many of the moderate Muslims in light of this conversation.
Sounds pretty typical. Victimhood is ingrained in the Muslim psyche.
Straight from the mouth of a "moderate Muslim".
Ping!
Sounds like the Persian rug shop owner has done a mind-meld with Dick Durbin.
*!*
grrr......
Before this is over it may very well get up close and personal.
Liberals' steadfast refusal to make even the most rudimentary moral distinctions never ceases to amaze me...
Well, what can I say. It's not as if we haven't been shouting from the rooftops for years about how there is no such thing as moderate Islam, only degrees of apostacy. Osama and his like are the true Muslims. Most of the others simply don't want to get involved in any of the dirty work, but they'll never take on the bad guys in their midst. They may not want to join al Qaeda, but they won't risk their necks to stop them and probably agree with a lot of what they do.
A "moderate" muzzie is simply one who's run out of ammunition.
The moderate Muslims are Bin Laden, Zarqawi, Hook, et al.
The extremists are anyone that disagrees with them.
And let me tell you. There is a tiny minority of Muslim extremists.
Yep. An elderly (and wealthy) Peruvian told me the same thing as I was sitting in a bar on 9/11. Luckily, his daughter told him to keep quiet and keep moving.
Precisely. I'm starting to think that most of these people are objectively on the terrorists' side even if they won't make any bombs themselves.
Count on a Persian to tell any Chinese a story that will upset him.
It's quite traditional, and intentional.
Wow. So if his rug shop has a fire he will say it was a hate crime?
As Fox Mulder says: "Trust no muslim".
When they realize that they are as much of a target as anyone else, they start singing a different tune.
Thank you for posting this story. It is very sad and also very scairy, but realistic. It is no accident that the "moderate" Muslims are so quiet. They really aren't on our side. And quietly and secretly they are rooting for the terrorists.
We need to be just way more scrupulous about our Mosques and Moderate Muslims. I am tired of hearing Liberals and the Dims "explaining and making excuses" for the silence of the Moderate Muslims.
I once boarded a plane in Christchurch without going through security and changed planes in Auckland without going through security, then flew right into LAX. I could have had an M-16 with me, and nobody would have ever known. I hope that's changed.
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