Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Do Conservatives See Women As Inferior? (Kelly Hollowell On Sexual Equality Alert)
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 07/09/05 | Kelly Hollowell

Posted on 07/08/2005 10:47:56 PM PDT by goldstategop

Do conservatives regard women as inferior?

I sat in church on Mother's Day and listened to the pastor build his sermon around the book of Proverbs. Sadly, one point of emphasis was that "it is better for a man to live in the corner of a roof than share a house with a complaining wife." The pastor predictably joked that "his point was scriptural and not personal." But then went on in poor taste to make other jokes concerning his wife's shopping habits and the number of shoes in her closet.

On Father's Day, another pastor spoke, again from Proverbs. This time it was a wholly uplifting message on the role, impact and leadership of men. This message was driven home further on the Fourth of July, in which men, particularly those serving in our armed forces, were heralded as heroes for their self-sacrifice and commitment to God, family and country.

A rear admiral also spoke from the pulpit on "honor, courage and commitment." He said the best displays of these traits were illustrated by his wife as she supported him in his career, primarily raised the children, maintained the home and remained loyal to their relationship.

As these familiar examples illustrate, conservatives frequently extol and focus on a very limited view of women. Despite this tendency, I don't think conservatives regard women as inferior. Rather, it is a liberal spin that has over-capitalized on a rather obvious (although not exclusive) area of appreciation conservatives have for women.

In response to the liberal spin, conservatives appear either too arrogant or too lazy to correct the perception that women are viewed inferior or valued only in the limited capacity of wife and mother. What's worse, it appears widely acceptable to take the position that any flawed perception is the problem of the consumer.

So what of those too young or naive to wade through the rhetoric? What of those abused by similar views taken to an extreme? What of those who don't yet understand or grasp their value? What of single, infertile and widowed women? And what of women, dare I say it, who actually want to work outside the home?

Uncorrected, the number of women lost to the left will grow exponentially. This is simply no way for conservatives to broaden their base or embrace the next generation of women. And let's not overlook the men who will marry them.

The worst part of the conservative's failure to correct this perception is that liberals have usurped and distorted the very meaning of feminism. Today, it has been successfully spun so far left that it is epitomized by women willing to kill their own children in the womb.

The good news is that all of this is fixable. First, it would be good for conservatives to give a few more kudos to women called outside the traditional roles and – dare I suggest it – support them along the way. Second, it might help in some cases for the more traditional leaders to take a class on sensitivity training … OK, OK, at least a class in 21st century communication skills. Third, and I have to say it, it would help if the old codgers among us who do hold rather blatantly chauvinistic views stepped into the 21st century and recognized that women can think outside the cake box.

Finally, the hardest part may begin with conservative women recognizing our true value and then holding each other up when our sisters choose a path different from our own. From there we must take the lead in redefining true feminism in America. One very close friend wrote me about the importance of holding onto our true femininity even when ignored, overlooked, undervalued and frustrated. She also wrote the following poem about transitioning from the world's distorted perception of feminine to its true meaning.

There was a time when I was a rebel on the mount. My hair was wild; my attitude harsh and proud. I stood on that mountain alone and fierce and invited those I wished to live at my feet. The numbers were few. Storms came strong and mighty. At first, when the lightening and thunder came you could see my form contrasted by the light: fist raised, hand on hip and proud! But the storms became too strong and though I fought and fought and fought, I finally lay beside my mountain to see it was only a hill.

I looked at my scarred hands, bent back and harsh spirit, and said, "Is this all that I'm fighting for?" I turned and looked at those who yet stood beside me. They were war torn. Then with a crackling voice I said, "I give up. I can't make this work. Look at what I've done to you so that I could remain on this peak of desolation."

So I took off the rude helmet that I had made for myself. Laid down my armor of irritation; my weapon of anger; took off my breastplate of haughtiness and went to wash in God's river.

The water revealed a woman, soft hair, soft eyes, gentle hands and quiet voice. I stepped out and put on the garments that He quietly laid out for me – a gentle and kind disposition, a tender and obedient spirit, quietness and confidence for strength and I was stunned … the garments fit me perfectly.

The point of the article and poem is to delineate a "New Choice" for women in America. That is to overcome the knee-jerk reaction to be offended by the often narrowly focused view of women by conservatives, overcome the liberal spin and reject the distorted interpretation of feminism that has become so prevalent. Assuming conservatives do not view women as inferior, they could help in the process by improving their efforts to uphold the inherent value of every woman not just those filling traditional roles.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: equality; feminity; kellyhollowell; rolemodel; women; worldnetdaily
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-86 next last
Kelly Hollowell points out women today aren't just wives and mothers. Conservatives need to appreciate the importance of a society in which men and women are sexually equal. We no longer live in an era where women worked in the home and men where the breadwinners. HELLO! This is the 21st Century.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
1 posted on 07/08/2005 10:47:56 PM PDT by goldstategop
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Rca2000

ping


2 posted on 07/08/2005 10:49:14 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - DeCAFTA-nate CAFTA!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop
Women are superior. That's why we put them on a pedestal.
3 posted on 07/08/2005 10:51:37 PM PDT by John Filson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop

This is not a conservative/liberal issue or a Republican/Democrat issue.

MEN in general, consider women to be inferior.

WOMEN, in general, consider men to be inferior.

Deal with it.


4 posted on 07/08/2005 10:52:09 PM PDT by Paloma_55
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop

They may be stupid, but they sure are fun!


5 posted on 07/08/2005 10:52:16 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Error 404: Page Not Found)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Chandler

Hope this is a fake name because otherwise you are about to bite the dust! :)


6 posted on 07/08/2005 10:53:45 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor in '06; Allen/Watts in 2008)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop

How cute.

Think I'll print this out for the wife who is a liberal.

She will still be treated like a queen, regardless.

Even rabid right wing reactionary conservatives are well aware of the laws of nature.

Behind every strong man is a stronger woman, ideology has no bearing.


7 posted on 07/08/2005 10:57:30 PM PDT by mmercier (raising swords for maidens fair)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Chandler
They may be stupid, but they sure are fun!

Yes, I have found that to be true of men. ; )

8 posted on 07/08/2005 10:58:33 PM PDT by conservative cat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop
"Sexually equal". Sexual, as in counterparts. Counterparts are not equal by definition.

It's real hard to be equal when you're down in the act having fun. Sex is all work for the guy, you women should feel lucky that you get to have fun in your shameful, dirty deeds.

"Equal" is no fun for anybody. We're only equal in non-sexual matters.

9 posted on 07/08/2005 10:59:53 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Oh good. Let's get all lovey-dovey over women. I bet if we make them feel like they are special, they'll vote for us.

I've got an idea: let's stand on principle. If our principles are appealing people will join us regardless of their sex, or race, or ethnicity or whatever.

I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone.

10 posted on 07/08/2005 11:04:54 PM PDT by jayhorn (voted least likely to win a popularity contest)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PhiKapMom
Don't blame him, blame Todd Rundgren
11 posted on 07/08/2005 11:07:25 PM PDT by Tribune7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop
Equal? In what way?

The author doesn't say. She merely expresses the need for us to recognize that fact that "sexual equality" is a reality.

12 posted on 07/08/2005 11:08:07 PM PDT by Reactionary
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop

The FReepers who vehemently disagree will be along shortly (maybe they arleady are, I haven't scrolled down yet)


13 posted on 07/08/2005 11:09:28 PM PDT by kms61
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PhiKapMom

We like our women with pony tails so we can drag them behind us to the cave!

:) Hehe!


14 posted on 07/08/2005 11:09:39 PM PDT by writer33 ("In Defense of Liberty," a political thriller, released in March. Buy it. I need new shoes. :))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop
Genesis 3:16

To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you."

15 posted on 07/08/2005 11:10:51 PM PDT by Tree of Liberty (requiescat in pace, President Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop
Good post..

Speaking of how ideologies view women, one thing I've noticed is liberals say they view women as equal.. yet then say women need a bunch of extra government protections so groups like evil marketers don't manipulate them.

16 posted on 07/08/2005 11:10:54 PM PDT by ran15
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Reactionary
True. The point is we're not going to be living in the 1950s anymore and if any man thinks his wife to be is going to put up with an arrangement where he makes the rules and she has to go along with it, he'll be waiting forever for a woman to agree to return to the old patriarchy. Life is not about living in the past and conservatism is about the right values rather an an obsession with a particular era's mores.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
17 posted on 07/08/2005 11:11:22 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop
Men and women are equal, thats why women get 50% of your pension and all your other suff,when they decide to leave on their own recognizance.
18 posted on 07/08/2005 11:12:28 PM PDT by gitmogrunt (undecorated and proud. God Bless our troops and their Families.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ran15
Liberals view women as children; conservatives view them as competent adults. The attraction of women to the Left can be explained by the simple fact women long to be taken care of and if a husband won't do, government will fill the bill.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
19 posted on 07/08/2005 11:14:09 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop
...darned right, Kelly! It was proven a long time ago that women are stronger and smarter than men, and that kids don't even need fathers--the main tenets of our Republican Party! [Yes, much irony, sarcasm and anger here on my part--"milk" "male" "horse".]






Feminism must die!
20 posted on 07/08/2005 11:15:19 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gitmogrunt
No one says a man needs a woman or needs to get married. If all that bothers you, you're free to remain single.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
21 posted on 07/08/2005 11:15:24 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop
But then went on in poor taste to make other jokes concerning his wife's shopping habits and the number of shoes in her closet.

Mrs. Hugin loves to shop and has about 100 pairs of shoes. Is there something wrong with joking about it? Are only women allowed to joke about the opposite sex?

22 posted on 07/08/2005 11:15:37 PM PDT by Hugin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop

My own political ideology is fairly libertarian, although not the lunatic anarchist brand. In that ideology there is imo the highest respect one can have for women(and men), is that you believe they can make decisions in their own life.

The liberals don't respect women enough to let them decide what medication they want to take, or even whether they want to put on a seatbelt. True respect imo is letting people make decisions for their own life, how they want. Liberals believe they can make decisions for women, better then the women can themselves. How to spend their donations, to 'guide' them with tax breaks in some areas but not others, to regulate them down.


23 posted on 07/08/2005 11:17:29 PM PDT by ran15
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hugin
Only Imelda Marcos had more. Guys also buy lots of shoes. As for the shoes jokes, bring them on as long as women aren't the only brunt of men's jokes!

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
24 posted on 07/08/2005 11:18:22 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: kms61
The FReepers who vehemently disagree will be along shortly (maybe they arleady are, I haven't scrolled down yet)

Scroll down the next time, they're here.

25 posted on 07/08/2005 11:18:36 PM PDT by xJones
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop
Liberals view women as children; conservatives view them as competent adults. The attraction of women to the Left can be explained by the simple fact women long to be taken care of and if a husband won't do, government will fill the bill.

That is a scary thought lol. I've thought before its sort of scary that 'liberated' women, then turned to an even more domineering master in the form of the state.

I must say there is a growing number of young women however, which don't think that way, there has been a rebirth in the interest in some of the radical feminists who didn't want the state dictating things either. Even things like prostitution. Of course abortion then becomes a big difference.. but I like the angle that hey wait a minute what about the baby girls rights?

26 posted on 07/08/2005 11:20:20 PM PDT by ran15
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: xJones
Get ready for the flame wars between the feminicons and the patricons. Shorhand for feminist conservatives and patriarchial conservatives. Bring along the popcorn! ;-)

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
27 posted on 07/08/2005 11:21:18 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: SteveMcKing
>> Sex is all work for the guy,

Truer words were never spoken.

And you still have to go to work, dragging ass and sore as a pack mule.
28 posted on 07/08/2005 11:22:27 PM PDT by mmercier (raising swords for maidens fair)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: writer33
"We like our women with pony tails so we can drag them behind us to the cave!"

...darned right! We have to live up to what "progressive" "women" call us!



29 posted on 07/08/2005 11:23:45 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: mmercier
Sex in those illustrated books you see in the stores sounds heavenly. Doing it in bed is quite a different story. Guys have get used to the fact its work for them, fun for the women. That's the way nature designed it and there's no getting around it. Sexually equal in bed? From personal experience, the entire idea of making love leaves something to be desired. And I'm a guy.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
30 posted on 07/08/2005 11:27:45 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: jayhorn

you sound like an arrogant little prick.

No offense intended.


31 posted on 07/08/2005 11:28:47 PM PDT by mmercier (raising swords for maidens fair)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

Later feminazism disguised as something else pingout.

I was a fly on the wall in '69 in Berkeley at several "womens' liberation" meetings - the beginning of the womens' movement. They were all, every single one of them, dope smoking, screeching, angry, vengeful man hating lesbians, and I am not exaggerating one single bit.

The writer of the above article drank the Koolaid and though it was nutritious grape juice.


32 posted on 07/08/2005 11:34:57 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jayhorn

I feel like I have joined you in the Twilight Zone.


33 posted on 07/08/2005 11:39:32 PM PDT by ladyinred
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: ladyinred

I'm here too....


34 posted on 07/08/2005 11:40:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah
The writer of the above article drank the Koolaid and though it was nutritious grape juice.

I got the same impression, espeically when she brought up "sensitivity training" and so on, those are code words and when I see those, the red lights on the little dashboard in my mind light up.
35 posted on 07/08/2005 11:43:52 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - DeCAFTA-nate CAFTA!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Nowhere Man

Red lights that flash and go "aWOOGa aWOOOGa".


36 posted on 07/08/2005 11:47:49 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop
You bring the popcorn, I'll bring the

In all truth, it never fails to amaze me regarding the number of posters that jump in to fight on threads like this.

37 posted on 07/08/2005 11:57:31 PM PDT by xJones
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: SteveMcKing

No inferiority, just different talents, most of which fall within gender groupings. Read 1st Corinthians 12.


38 posted on 07/08/2005 11:58:01 PM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop

I have yet to meet the man, conservative or no, who's brave enough to tell me he considers me his inferior.


39 posted on 07/08/2005 11:58:25 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Make the homeys say HO and the girlies wanna scream!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop

BTW, any chance I could sweet-talk you into removing the "and" from before "Fox News"?

Your red tagline would flow without it. With it, I fetch up wondering what that "and" is in there for.


40 posted on 07/08/2005 11:59:11 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Make the homeys say HO and the girlies wanna scream!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop

May we suggest a better church? Did Kelly tell the pastor what he/she thought of the sermon?


41 posted on 07/09/2005 12:00:48 AM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop
"The point is we're not going to be living in the 1950s anymore and if any man thinks his wife to be is going to put up with an arrangement where he makes the rules and she has to go along with it, he'll be waiting forever for a woman to agree to return to the old patriarchy."

I see. So the idea is that the family - an exclusive, private institution - is supposed to be democratic. Why? No one knows. It just seems more "moral" that way.

And as to how men and women are "equal," no one can provide an example of that, either. Again, it just seems more "moral" to say that it's simply true.

It's little wonder, then, that the institution of marriage is generally worthless today. After all, the egalitarianism of men and women, not to mention the family, evidently has no basis in reality.

42 posted on 07/09/2005 12:10:25 AM PDT by Reactionary
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Reactionary

I worked in the corporate world in a big city for thirty some years without ever feeling that my male counterparts and bosses checked my advancement on the basis of my female sex. I then moved to the country and worked in a field (agriculture and natural resources) for more than a decade where men dominated. I always felt that they respected me and accepted my contributions.

It was not until I ran for public office and had conservative men tell me that I could not do the job solely on the basis of my sex that I experienced prejudice. Let me tell you, it is a stunner. There is absolutely nothing that a candidate can do to counter that. Nevertheless, I won with a substantial margin.

Conservatives need to support female conservative candidates and that means that some have to get over their antiquated view that the little woman belongs at home taking their direction.


43 posted on 07/09/2005 12:48:52 AM PDT by marsh2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: familyop

You do know "Wonder Woman" was just an old, cheesy TV show..


44 posted on 07/09/2005 12:51:47 AM PDT by k2blader (Was it wrong to kill Terri Shiavo? YES - 83.8%. FR Opinion Poll.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop

Kelly Hollowell is a whiny little twit.

She doesn't know her Bible ery well, either, and that is supposed tobe her forte: mixing her scientific training with her "Christian" knowlege.


45 posted on 07/09/2005 1:55:32 AM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: familyop

Is that Johnny Damon standing on the left?


46 posted on 07/09/2005 3:06:04 AM PDT by MIT-Elephant ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah
The writer of the above article drank the Koolaid and though it was nutritious grape juice.

I'm uniformly disappointed by her pieces. She just ain't the brightest bulb on the tree. Which bothers me more because she tends to feed the stereotype that Christians are a bit dumber than the average bear, and that affects the rest of us.

47 posted on 07/09/2005 4:26:42 AM PDT by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop
Do conservatives regard women as inferior?

Let me run out to the kitchen to ask my wife what she thinks.

48 posted on 07/09/2005 4:28:16 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and proud of it!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MIT-Elephant
Is that Johnny Damon standing on the left?

ROTFLMAO! Classic!

49 posted on 07/09/2005 4:31:36 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and proud of it!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: mmercier

Behind every successful man is a woman telling him he's wrong.


50 posted on 07/09/2005 5:15:10 AM PDT by sauropod (Polite political action is about as useful as a miniskirt in a convent -- Claire Wolfe)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-86 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson