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Plame, By Any Other Name: Does Rove's current position pass the smell test?
Wash. Post ^ | Monday, July 11, 2005; 1:21 PM | Dan Froooooomkin

Posted on 07/11/2005 12:53:39 PM PDT by rface

There is no longer any question that top presidential adviser Karl Rove is a key player in the Valerie Plame case.

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But let's look at what we can conclude from all this:

· The latest news reports indicate that Rove is the source who Cooper was trying to protect until last week -- and that Rove tipped Cooper about Plame three days before Robert Novak published his now-famous column exposing Plame's identity.

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· Rove and his lawyer's denials that he was involved in telling reporters about Plame now appear to be at best based on Clintonian hairsplitting about whether he literally used her name and identified her as covert or he simply described her as the CIA-employed wife of Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, the administration critic that White House was eager to discredit at the time.

· President Bush and press secretary Scott McClellan's denials that Rove was involved in the Plame matter now appear to be at best based on the position that their responses to broad questions about Rove and Plame were met with narrowly constructed responses specifically about whether Rove leaked "classified information." Or is it possible Rove lied to them?

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If Karl Rove, Bush's top political strategist, longtime friend and deputy chief of staff is actually indicted by Fitzgerald -- which now appears to be a possibility -- it would be an enormous blow to Bush's second term. Until Fitzgerald wraps up his highly secretive investigation, however, that's all just speculation.

So let's ask ourselves some more practical questions instead:

· Does Rove's current position pass the smell test?

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so how bad is it??? Did Limbaugh talk about this issue today - if so how much??
1 posted on 07/11/2005 12:53:39 PM PDT by rface
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It's not Rove, it's Scooter Libby. JMHO.


2 posted on 07/11/2005 12:54:32 PM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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They're still trying to manufacture a scandal, but it's not working and their own guys are going to jail.
3 posted on 07/11/2005 12:55:15 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws spawned the runaway federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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Sounds to me like the OMwhores are ready and set to rake Rove through coals and truth be damned!!!
4 posted on 07/11/2005 12:55:22 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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I agree w/ you. The court of "public opinion" (ie. MSM) - will convict Rove but the court of law will not.


5 posted on 07/11/2005 12:56:51 PM PDT by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I agree. Nobody cares about this. The only reason the rabid Left and the MSM are on it because they think they can damage Bush.

This is a non-issue. Breathlessly reporting the details in an effort to make it seem like Watergate only makes the news media look petty and stupid.

6 posted on 07/11/2005 12:58:39 PM PDT by Pete
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Ambitious people trying to make a name for themselves by linking the Bush Admin. DemoncRAT ploy? Absolutely!


7 posted on 07/11/2005 12:58:51 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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Boy, they're desperately trying to hang Rove. I say from this point on, the Whitehouse never bother to save another journalist from making an absolute A$$ of themselves.

They pursue this, they're cutting off all sources from the Whitehouse ever.

8 posted on 07/11/2005 12:59:12 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Re#3 Yup. Methinks there will be indictments, but not of Administration officials...


9 posted on 07/11/2005 12:59:53 PM PDT by eureka! (It will not be safe to vote Democrat for a long, long, time...)
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Everyone knew in d.c circles that plame was a cia agent and she was the one that sent wilson on the trip.

She wasn't a covert agent.

Rove was just defusing the lie that the cia or white house had sent plame on the trip, it was his wife.

This case is a joke everyone in poilitical circles knew who she was it would be like saying you outed george tenet at the cia, she wasn't a covert agent.

What a waste of time this case is. By the way I don't remember the liberal media going after Sandy Berger.


10 posted on 07/11/2005 1:00:31 PM PDT by johnmecainrino
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Actually, what doesn't pass the smell test is the notion Plume was a secret agent working on anything meaningful.


11 posted on 07/11/2005 1:00:34 PM PDT by Chief_Joe (From where the sun now sits, I will fight on -FOREVER!!!)
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To: rface

One thing we can conclude is that Rove saved journalist Cooper from going to jail by allowing Cooper to reveal his source. But Froomkin wouldn't concede an honorable motive on Rove's part.


12 posted on 07/11/2005 1:00:47 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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Let's see, Plame was common knowledge with Washington reporters and they have to prove that Rove knew that she was an undercover agent, not that she simply worked for the CIA in order for there to have been a crime.

Not likely to get very far when it comes down to it.


13 posted on 07/11/2005 1:00:47 PM PDT by DB ()
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The White House should have stepped up and said precisely what Rove's involvement was as soon as this controversy began. Now, after two years or so of slogging, it can't help but appear that Rove was involved in some sort of wrongdoing, even if he in fact did nothing wrong.

Always get the possibly hurtful news out yourself, before everybody else. Or, like Hillary, pray that some clever 'enemy' will write a book about you and thereby innoculate you against even the most outrageous of criticisms that might surface once you openly state your intention to become the President of the United States.

14 posted on 07/11/2005 1:01:02 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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Anybody got any proof that Plame was a covert, undercover agent? I haven't seen anything. Like the "Downing Street Memos" created by a Leftist kook, this is just another DemocRAT manufactured "scandal" that isn't going anywhere. Rove never mentioned Plame by name to anybody. No crime. The 'RATS need to try something else.


15 posted on 07/11/2005 1:01:31 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: All
anyone:

so did Limbaugh discuss this today???

16 posted on 07/11/2005 1:02:18 PM PDT by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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I thought it was rather odd that Wilson started ranting about Rove at the get-go. But it's obvious why the libs hate Rove. He keeps killing them politically.


17 posted on 07/11/2005 1:03:36 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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>>I agree w/ you. The court of "public opinion" (ie. MSM) - will convict Rove but the court of law will not<<

Fortunately, that court (MSM) has very little power now...


18 posted on 07/11/2005 1:04:05 PM PDT by RobRoy (Child support and maintenance (alimony) are what we used to call indentured slavery)
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My bet is the jounalists calls someone like Rove after they have the facts and all they want is confirmation ...In short Cooper and Miller and and Novac already knew it before they asked Rove anything


19 posted on 07/11/2005 1:05:17 PM PDT by woofie (Neocon spelled backward is Nocoen)
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To: rface

I say to all of them: Sandy Berger, Sandy Berger, Sandy Berger.


20 posted on 07/11/2005 1:06:01 PM PDT by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever know! :))
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