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How's this for a surprise: City seized his lot and sold it (Eminent Domain in New Jersey)
http://www.nj.com/ ^ | 7/11/05 | STEVE CHAMBERS

Posted on 07/11/2005 3:01:42 PM PDT by lowbridge

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1 posted on 07/11/2005 3:01:42 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

I'm not buying it. Even with the new ruling, the constitutional requirement of compensation is still in effect.


2 posted on 07/11/2005 3:03:26 PM PDT by Melas (Lives in state of disbelief)
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To: lowbridge

If they can sell it to the developer for $60,000, then it is logical to assume the fair market value of the property is .....$60,000.


3 posted on 07/11/2005 3:06:51 PM PDT by taxcontrol (People are entitled to their opinion - no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: Melas

I'm buying it. The town set the price (14K) and there is no negotiation. Liberalism is showing it's ugly face once again.


4 posted on 07/11/2005 3:07:17 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus Reagan
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To: taxcontrol

$60,000 or more.

It frosts me to see some two-bit politician or govt. worker have the right to take someone's property.


5 posted on 07/11/2005 3:08:34 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Melas

I'm not buying it either. There is a notification process attached to Eminent Domain. It may be that he has failed to answer a "clean it up" order, received a "we cleaned it up" billing and failed to pay.


6 posted on 07/11/2005 3:09:17 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Melas
"Later, he would discover the city set aside $14,730 as compensation for him"

There's his compensation. He can take it or leave it, but either way, he doesn't own that land. Of course, he never did own the land if the government can take it at will. It's inevitable that a property owner, defending his property with his life, will be murdered by stormtroopers of the state seeking to seize his property.
7 posted on 07/11/2005 3:09:39 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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To: lowbridge

It's never too soon to buy ammo.


8 posted on 07/11/2005 3:09:48 PM PDT by Sir Gawain (When in doubt, cite the Commerce Clause)
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To: lowbridge
Later, he would discover the city set aside $14,730 as compensation for him, then turned around and sold the lot for $60,000 to developer Wayne Alston, a former city councilman who went to prison in the 1990s on corruption charges.

If mafia did it, it would be stealing, extortion, if government does it it's for "public good".

9 posted on 07/11/2005 3:11:03 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeePeee!)
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To: Sacajaweau
"There is a notification process attached to Eminent Domain."

And if they attempted notification, that requirement has been met. There is no requirement that you actually receive the notice; only that said notice was attempted in 'good faith'.
10 posted on 07/11/2005 3:11:09 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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To: Leo Carpathian
If mafia did it, it would be stealing, extortion, if government does it it's for "public good".

In most of New Jersey, mafia and government are one and the same.

11 posted on 07/11/2005 3:16:39 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (We will NEVER surrender! -- Churchill)
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To: Melas
I'm not buying it.

No the jailed developer did and the city pocketed 60,000.

12 posted on 07/11/2005 3:18:35 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: NJ_gent

Ya know what....you're right and I know it from experience. I made an.....oh, no.......ASSumption.


13 posted on 07/11/2005 3:18:47 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: NJ_gent
And if they attempted notification, that requirement has been met. There is no requirement that you actually receive the notice; only that said notice was attempted in 'good faith'.

"But Mr. Dent, the plans have been available in the local planning office for the last nine months."
"Oh yes, well, as soon as I heard I went straight round to see them, yesterday afternoon. You hadn't exactly gone out of your way to call attention to them, had you? I mean, like actually telling anybody or anything."
"But the plans were on display..."
"On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them."
"That's the display department."
"With a flashlight."
"Ah, well, the lights had probably gone."
"So had the stairs."
"But look, you found the notice, didn't you?"
"Yes," said Arthur, "yes I did. It was on display on the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard.'"

14 posted on 07/11/2005 3:20:28 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Bork should have had Kennedy's USSC seat and Kelo v. New London would have gone the other way.)
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To: NJ_gent
Speaking of stormtroopers... One of the funny things about the Krystalnacht, after the Jewish property was destroyed. Was that Hitler railed against the Jews saying, in effect, that now because of the damage that was caused by the good German people as the result of Jewish greed, the good German people would then have to pay all the insurance damage claims resulting from the good German peoples actions, (against the greedy Jews.) Therefore all Jewish property was then confiscated to pay for the damages that resulted from Jewish greed.

How close to that kind of insane/pretzel logic are we now in Amerika, when a property is taken for 14k and turned around and sold for a discounted 60k and that is considered fair and legal?

15 posted on 07/11/2005 3:27:22 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: NJ_gent

I see notices in my local newspaper every week.

I know local governments have to publish these notices to do sheriff's auctions.

I wonder if it's the same case here?


16 posted on 07/11/2005 3:35:12 PM PDT by FatherFig1o155 (A conservative in NJ, and proud of it. The conservative part, that is.)
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To: Leo Carpathian

you can say that again.


17 posted on 07/11/2005 3:40:28 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: lowbridge

Blah Blah Bla Blah bla bla blahhh................
Participate,Vote the bastards out and quite yer damn bitching.....


18 posted on 07/11/2005 3:49:28 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: lowbridge
The rest of the story:

Shennett never claimed the money, and instead sued the city. In May, Superior Court Judge Robert J. Passero, sitting in Paterson, agreed the price paid to Shennett seemed too low and appointed three neutral parties to reconsider compensation

But Shennet doesn't want anything they might come up with. He just wants his land back. Does not look like he's going to get it.

19 posted on 07/11/2005 3:58:38 PM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: mollynme

This is Jersey, right? Satisfaction is available for a price. These guys should be doing everything they can to get title back into the owner's hands.


20 posted on 07/11/2005 4:01:39 PM PDT by muawiyah (/sarcasm and invective)
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