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Vaccine Tie to Autism Gains New Supporters
Arizona Daily Star ^ | Thursday, 14 July 2005 | Carla McClain

Posted on 07/15/2005 5:16:24 AM PDT by bookworm100

The decade-long debate over what has caused this country's frightening spike of childhood autism once again is exploding…

Reigniting the debate is the much-publicized book "Evidence of Harm" by David Kirby, as well as the report titled "Deadly Immunity" by environmental attorney Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

In brief, Kirby and Kennedy argue that federal health officials, with the help of vaccine-makers and some in Congress, have deliberately downplayed, even covered up, evidence that thimerosal - a preservative containing mercury - in childhood vaccines is the prime trigger behind the explosion of autism in U.S. children the last 15 years.

Although thimerosal was first added to baby vaccines as long ago as the 1930s, preschoolers typically received no more than three shots throughout the subsequent five decades.

But, by the early '90s, that exposure changed, with most children getting up to 23 shots against 12 diseases by age 2 all laced with mercury, a metal known to cause brain damage.

And so was launched the "Thimerosal Generation," according to the Kennedy report - children born between 1989 and 2003, when estimated cases of autism jumped an astounding 15-fold, from one in every 2,500 children to one in 166 today. ationwide, 500,000 children now are struggling with some form of autism - a syndrome of behavioral abnormalities marked by withdrawal from contact, loss of communication and developmental regression...

(Excerpt) Read more at rednova.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: antivacc; antivaxxers; autism; california; deadly; immunity; kennedy; massachusetts; mercury; robertfkennedyjr; thimerosal; vaccinations; vaccine; vaccines
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To: tutstar

Something not mentioned is other sources of mercury.

Until this article I assumed the connection was coincidental. Then I realized that the baseline could be rising, particularly among educated people who have increased their fish intake becase their doctors keep saying its good for you. Mercury does concentrate in fish. Not enough for adults to get hysterical about but perhaps enough to go beyond infants and youg children's tolerance when an additional load was added from the vaccines.


21 posted on 07/15/2005 5:47:45 AM PDT by From many - one.
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Bump.


22 posted on 07/15/2005 5:50:43 AM PDT by auboy ("woof")
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To: Smokin' Joe
while these conditions do exist and may be real, if the extra funding were not available, I'd bet there would be a lot less

Exactly. I don't think anyone argues that there is no such thing as autism (or hyperactivity, or depression). There may even be more cases than in the past ... because there are more people, for one thing.

However, when you look at the literature on diagnosing "disabilities," it's clear that absolutely anyone can be diagnosed with a "problem" that has tax-funded "treatment." Out of my four sons, I have two I could easily get an "autism-spectrum" diagnosis for, and one ADHD. And these are perfectly functional kids. One needs a lot of exercise, and two are kind of peculiar.

When you define "disability" in a child as "any quality or behavior that an adult finds strange, tiresome, or inconvenient," then yeah, every child is disabled!

23 posted on 07/15/2005 5:59:45 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No! I don't want a socialist muffin in a boat!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Thank you. I am sorry your grandson as hurt by "sloppy science."

There is a scary track record of todays drug companies pushing "medicine" that has adverse side effects that were ignored.


24 posted on 07/15/2005 6:01:04 AM PDT by bookworm100
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To: bookworm100

Looking too late. The increase (beyond better diagnoses) is probably from prenatal considerations. That is when the developmental window(s) of increased vulnurability exists.


25 posted on 07/15/2005 6:01:27 AM PDT by rod1
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs
It is rare in the third world.

And we know that statistics on autism from countries that don't have electricity or running water are reliable, because ... ?

26 posted on 07/15/2005 6:02:19 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No! I don't want a socialist muffin in a boat!)
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To: bookworm100

I know for a fact that thimerosol can affect some people--it bothered me greatly when I first used contact lenses over 30 years ago. The first day I used them, the whites of my eyes turned very red and painful. The doctor told me that it was the preservative (thimerosol) in the solution and that 1 in 5 people had problems with it. I changed to a non-preservative single use solution and was fine after a round of treatments with cortisone to get my eyes calmed down.

So, imagine injecting that stuff into some children who are very sensitive to it and in multiple doses. If a little would do that to my eyes in my early 20s, what might it do to infants' brains when they are small without well developed immune systems?

At the very least, this deserves more consideration and research. We do need vaccinations, but there must be a less potentially harmful preservative.

27 posted on 07/15/2005 6:05:37 AM PDT by Marty
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To: Marty

Excellent point.

Some researchers have not grasp the concept that people are genetically diverse and the argument that something "does not affect everyone" is bogus.


28 posted on 07/15/2005 6:09:09 AM PDT by bookworm100
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To: bookworm100

Thank you for your concern. It is astonishing how so many people can be so callous in their attitudes against handicapped people. I appreciate your sympathy.


29 posted on 07/15/2005 6:09:13 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Dudoight
THis is bull. Autism has gone up even though the offending element has been removed from the vaccines for a number of years. This is the most common untruth made by the pro-mercury crowd. Mercury WAS NOT removed from vaccines in 1999. This is a fact. It was recommended to be removed but it was not mandated. So the process to START removing it began in 1999. But it was not until late 2002/early 2003 that the majority of vaccines for children were thimerosal free. But further muddying the waters is the flu shot was ADDED to the schedule for children a few years ago and most versions of this vaccine contain thimerosal. All that being said, you also need to consider that it could take 3-4 years before a child receives a diagnosis. But for those following the numbers in California, we are starting to see a downward trend in the numbers of autistic children. The numbers peaked in 2002 and have been decreasing ever since. I'll post a link to a story about this in a new thread.
30 posted on 07/15/2005 6:14:36 AM PDT by CraigG
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To: Red Badger

Badger,

Dave Weldon & Dan Burton have been even more vocal about this over several years. This isn't a partisan issue. Frankly, I'm surprised that this isn't more of a conservative issue. Giving poison to our kids on purpose(not to mention the third world countries that are currently receiving ALL mercury laced vaccines from us) is no better than abortion in my humble opinion. Keep in mind that this mess started in the Clinton years.


31 posted on 07/15/2005 6:20:18 AM PDT by CraigG
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs

"It is rare in the third world."

Unfortunately, it is becoming less rare. The number of cases in China reached something like 1.8 million. They have been purchasing our vaccines since the last 90's.


32 posted on 07/15/2005 6:22:08 AM PDT by CraigG
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To: Tax-chick

Right on the money - pun intended.


33 posted on 07/15/2005 6:23:13 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Tax-chick

Don't you know that the government estimates that at least 50% of Americans have mental problems or will develop them ?

We're all nut jobs. ;)


34 posted on 07/15/2005 6:26:06 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: tcostell
Correlation is not causality.

No...but it may be reason to investigate further.

35 posted on 07/15/2005 6:26:26 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Smokin' Joe; Tax-chick

Do you guys know ANYTHING about autism? Ever see an autistic kid? If you have, you would never make such an uninformed comment. These kids stick out like a sore thumb. This is NOT better diagnosis. It doesn't take a genious to realize that a kid who can't speak, flaps his arms, spins toys, makes no eye contact, and wants nothing to do with other kids is different.


36 posted on 07/15/2005 6:26:38 AM PDT by CraigG
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To: CraigG
Keep in mind that this mess started in the Clinton years.

It is an example of the "Hill-Care" we will all get if we do not work very hard.

37 posted on 07/15/2005 6:30:49 AM PDT by bookworm100
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To: CraigG

We are not talking about that. Have YOU looked at the criteria that are used to diagnose "autism" at an ever-increasing rate?

There are two very different issues under discussion. One is autism. It's possible that genuine autism cases are increasing, and it's possible that vaccines are a cause. Opinions on that are obviously mixed, and I, personally, don't have an opinion.

The other issue is the money-driven labelling of "autistic" for any child whose social interaction is different from what a day-care provider or schoolteacher considers "optimal." For example, there was a post from a FReeper a while back whose 3-year-old son was in preschool. The boy (only child, with very involved parents and grandparents) knew numbers, letters, and colors, but didn't always mix with other children easily. The parents were called in for a conference because the teacher was sure the boy was "autistic."

This sort of thing is a terrible disservice to families dealing with genuine autism.


38 posted on 07/15/2005 6:34:29 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No! I don't want a socialist muffin in a boat!)
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To: cinives

I admit it - I have mental problems!


39 posted on 07/15/2005 6:40:37 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No! I don't want a socialist muffin in a boat!)
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To: bookworm100

You have the making of a product liability bonanza/nightmare here, so there are forces at work distorting the science.

I have read that some children have less of an ability than others to eliminate mercury from their bodies. It tends to collect in a certain part of their brain. Do I recall correctly?


40 posted on 07/15/2005 6:47:38 AM PDT by frithguild (If I made one mistake, it was that I was too cooperative and waited too long to go on the offensive.)
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