Posted on 07/18/2005 9:57:30 PM PDT by Eurotwit
Hee, hee. Have they modernized Nancy Drew yet - i.e., put her in low-cut skanky Cristina Aquilera/Britney Spears clothing?
I recall a scandal a while back when new editions gave her a modern hairstyle and a visible figure.
I hate to admit this, but it's not far removed from the sort of stuff I churned out for papers in college. It seemed to work very well, and I'm not sure if there was always this unwritten acknowledgement among the professors that "yeah, we know this is all intellectual auto-eroticism, but that's the way the game is played."
Well said!
Dear Lord, I hate dim little Harry...now "1776" - there's a book I can sink my teeth into! Better yet check out "April 19 - the first day of the revolution". It is very detailed, even giving insight into the hygeine and culinary habits of the forefathers...
Good point.
Is this the level of argument that you want to sink to??? Really scraping the bottom there, FRiend.
What is it, just a desperate attempt to deny that intelligent, educated people could possibly disagree with you?
I invite people to disagree with me. This forum would be the conservative version of the goosestep party known as DU if we all agreed on anything.
He's got special powers that the school is merely refining and developing.
...which requires study and effort, and does not always yield results. There are a few spells which Harry cannot successfully cast--if you were familiar with the book, we could discuss what that says about the kind of boy Harry is.
And along the way, we see him breaking school rules, disobeying teachers, lying, and doing things that the dumb old teachers couldn't get done.
Most of the actions that you have cited are not glorified at all. In fact, it shows Harry to be a pretty common teenage prat. And no, he does not go unpunished or unscathed for his digressions.
(me) "I have no problem with discussing controversial aspects of the books"
(you) "Yeah, you do."
No, I do not. We have different goals. I am enjoying a discussion--I am, really. If I weren't, I'd be weeding the flowerbed or something. You are trying to convince me that you're right and I'm wrong. Different goals. I am not insisting that you must read the book. That is no different than telling someone that they must NOT read the book. When it comes to specific content of the book, however, having read it helps when arguing a point.
I sure hope that the F/11 crack was uncharacteristic on your part.
Ya just gotta pay attention more closely to tech in the movies like us nascent gear heads.
LOL! Do you have any quotes from L. Ron Hubbard too?
Hence, the "joke" and non-serious flippancy in the prior response. The descent into absurd silliness from Potter kitsch is a riot! Love it!
How do you think Harry Potter would hold up vs. Gozer? Like Rick Moranis, running around barking?
Depends upon his answer when she asks him if he's a god...
When we talk about the Crucifixion, when we discuss how God sacrificed His Son so that our sins may be forgiven, he cries. Always. He knows that it is real. It touches him in a way that fiction never will.
Next time I read LOTR (it's been a few months, after all!) I'll keep in mind what you've said about the different POVs. I've never noticed that.
(RFF: Maxa ping)
Harry Potter is about as nefarious as The Three Little Pigs. At its core, it's essentially the same story. Overpowering forces exist; be prepared, be smart, do right, and you can win out in the end.
The author of Potter got a lot of inspiration on a trip to Edinburgh, Scotland she said in a recent interview.
Coincidentally, Rudy Maxa, travel writer who has a PBS travel show, just aired his trip to Edinburgh in my market last week. Old Edinburgh legends and folklore would point a very imaginative writer toward a Harry Potter character. Hulking dreary ancient buildings there could easily be imagined as a school for wizards. There's even an "Apprentice Column" in a church in Edinburgh, a much better column than others in the church created by an apprentice whose work so angered the jealous master sculptor that he tried to kill the apprentice.
Though Maxa said nothing about the similiarity to the Potter books, the seeds are all there for anyone to see. I guess that good Christians should never visit Edinburgh, Scotland, the last outpost on the road to hell.
LOL!
His character seems flexible enough that he can be worked into a variety of absurd and high-weirdness situations. I'd like to see Harry Potter worked into the famous "Gorn" episode of Star Trek.
A chilling post. Especially since teaching kids "to think" no longer retains any elements of logic.
From this review of (the readers of) Harry Potter books, he exudes contempt for those who are looking for escapist literature.
When I was younger, I loved reading, because I was brought up on Edgar Rice Burroughs and C.S. Lewis, as well as Heinlein's juvinile books. I "graduated" to "real" literature, but I never lost my love of escapist stories.
Sometimes it's nice to read something that just takes you away from where you are, and what you're doing. I find myself spending at least 4 hours a day reading: Mostly technical and system administration manuals, network protocol guides, and trying to understand just what the heck the network architects at Microsoft were doing... I just started reading a little ditty titled "Mastering Windows Server 2003," a light read at a bit over 1700 pages. Hopefully, I'll have it finished in the next week.
Believe me, once I'm finished with my first Microsoft test (I'm scheduled to take my first Windows Server exam a week from Friday), I'm going to be ready to read the new Harry Potter book, to get as far away from computers as possible. And it will be with something I can sit back and enjoy as fun, rather than something "good for me." Something I can read over quickly, without having to look for any hidden meanings. Look, I could go back and re-read "The Oddesy," Dante's "Inferno," or another of the classics, but I'm looking for something light and fun.
Mark
Rowling has nothing on Tolkien.
Agreed, but they are coming from two completely different places. While I love Tolkein, let's face it, to really "get it," with Tolkein, it takes some work. Tokein actually created middle earth because he felt that England had been "cheated" by having no indiginous (sp?) mythology. Sure, there's Beowulf, but that doesn't really compare with the Norse, Greek, or Roman mythos, does it?
His was a decades long work to come up with an entire mythos.
Rowling wrote a story about a little wizard.
They're both wonderful (IMHO), but in entirely different ways. And I'm one of those guys who "poo-poo'd" the whole "Harry Potter thing" while the LOTR movies were coming out. I never even saw one of the movies until after the Return of the King movie was released. I had no interest in the HP movies or books. But I saw the first movie on cable, thought it was pretty good, decided to read the book, and I was hooked!
Mark
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