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Howard Dean: 'Bible Says Nothing About Gay Marriage'
Juiceenewsdaily ^ | June 23, 2005 | Landon Howell

Posted on 07/19/2005 11:20:38 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

(JND) - As I sat down to read through some scripture Thursday night, I reached for the remote to turn off the already-turned-on TV.

It was then that a sit-down session between Jon Stewart and Howrad Dean on Comedy Central's The Daily Show caught my attention. Howard Dean speaking on national television...it's like watching a car crash in slow-motion.

I couldn't resist.

I set down my Bible, turned on the laptop, and prepared my fingers to record what sound bytes might spew from Dean's mouth. I didn't have to wait for long.

"I have yet to find a reference to gay marriage in the Bible." said Dean...

...I'm not the first, and I won't be the last to say this: "Howard Dean, you sir are a complete idiot."

...In a Q&A session by GotQuestions.org: "The Bible clearly and consistently tells us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27; I Cor. 6:9). God does not create a person with homosexual desires. A person becomes a homosexual because of sin( Rom 1:24-27), and ultimately because of their own choice. A person may be born with a greater susceptibility to homosexuality, just as people are born with a tendency to violence and other sins. That does not excuse the person choosing to sin by giving into their sinful desires. If a person is born with a greater susceptibility to anger/rage, does that make it right for them to give into those desires? Of course not! The same is true for homosexuality."

The Q&A also goes on to say, "To give sanction to homosexual marriage would be to give approval to that lifestyle, which the Bible clearly and consistently condemns as sinful. I believe that Christians should stand firmly against the idea of gay marriage....

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The article also says about midway, "Possibly the strongest and most obvious argument is this: "If God had intended the human race to be fulfilled through both heterosexual and homosexual marriage, He would have designed our bodies to allow reproduction through both means and made both mewans of sexual intercourse healthy and natural. Homosexual sexual intercourse carries a high risk of disease, this is recognized in Scripture where gay men are said to receive in their bodies the due penalty for their error. (Romans 1:27)

The rest of the article contains some more excellent points.

1 posted on 07/19/2005 11:20:40 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
...I'm not the first, and I won't be the last to say this: "Howard Dean, you sir are a complete idiot."

Yeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!

2 posted on 07/19/2005 11:22:41 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: All; scripter; EdReform; little jeremiah

A ping to even more 'brilliant' statements by Howard Dean.

This may be indeed Dean's finest hour.


3 posted on 07/19/2005 11:23:11 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Try Leviticus 18:22.

Oh, wait, there's no Leviticus in The Communist Manifesto, which is what I assume Dr. Demento means when he says "Bible".

4 posted on 07/19/2005 11:24:26 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Abortion kills liberals)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Which Bible - Howard the Duck Dean one?

I know my Bible (Catholic) opposes gay marriage.

5 posted on 07/19/2005 11:24:50 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan (Member - NRA, SAF, MGO, SAFR)
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To: Nachum

The Canadians knew this year ago when Dean was a governor and occasional guest on TV news shows.


6 posted on 07/19/2005 11:25:15 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Scratch a Liberal. Uncover a Fascist)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Before 20 years ago no one in the history of the world would ever have seriously considered gay marriage.

Why should the Bible writers have mentioned it?

How did Dean make it thru medical school?

7 posted on 07/19/2005 11:25:42 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
A person may be born with a greater susceptibility to homosexuality, just as people are born with a tendency to violence and other sins.
 
Exactly.  I have to admit that I have certain urges, urges along the lines of killing people I disagree with, but so far, I've avoided acting on those urges.
Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

8 posted on 07/19/2005 11:26:02 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
So Howard Dean is suggesting that we run our country based on the Bible's teachings?

Wow, these libs sure have changed their tune!

9 posted on 07/19/2005 11:26:25 AM PDT by Dr.Hilarious ("My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity."-Joe W)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; grellis
Seem to recall it says a word or two about brainless loudmouths.

Dan
Biblical Christianity BLOG

11 posted on 07/19/2005 11:27:37 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Ahh yes...Howard Dean...who, during a presidential primary debate, said his favorite New Testament book was the Book of Job


12 posted on 07/19/2005 11:27:46 AM PDT by Irontank (Let them revere nothing but religion, morality and liberty -- John Adams)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
"I have yet to find a reference to gay marriage in the Bible." said Dean..."

True, but there are no references to Howard Dean, either--oh, wait, here's something about the jawbone of an ass...

13 posted on 07/19/2005 11:27:46 AM PDT by Dr.Hilarious ("My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity."-Joe W)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Hey, Howard, what does the Bible say about bike paths?


14 posted on 07/19/2005 11:27:48 AM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
"I have yet to find a reference to gay marriage in the Bible." said Dean...

True! Every reference to marriage in the Bible describes a union of one man and one woman. There are, however, plenty of condemnations of homosexual behavior in the Bible.

15 posted on 07/19/2005 11:27:48 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: what's up
How did Dean make it thru medical school?

Highly "medicated"?

16 posted on 07/19/2005 11:27:53 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Dear Dr. DUmass Dean,

Here's more study material.

Genesis 1:27-28; Genesis 2:18; Genesis 19:1-8; Leviticus 18:22; Leviticus 20:13; Matthew 19:4-6; Mark 10:6-8; Romans 1:24-28; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Ephesians 5:31; 1 Timothy 1:10; 2 Peter 2:6-7; Jude 7.


17 posted on 07/19/2005 11:28:39 AM PDT by Shaka
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Dr. Dean, I looked in my concordance and it appears that the Bible also says nothing about my shoving an umbrella up your hiney and opening it. When would you like to schedule that procedure?


18 posted on 07/19/2005 11:28:51 AM PDT by tnlibertarian
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Man oh man, is this going to haunt them come election time 2008.

Yep, all the christians out there will be sure to rush and vote for the Democrats after they hear this.

20 posted on 07/19/2005 11:30:11 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: agrace

yeeeeeaaaahhhhh ping


21 posted on 07/19/2005 11:30:26 AM PDT by lightingguy (Sorry, I got distracted)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
"I have yet to find a reference to gay marriage in the Bible." said Dean...

I'll bet he didn't find anything about abortion clinic bombings either. Didn't I read recently that someone is going to prison for that? Oh well, maybe Dean just hasn't finsished reading.

22 posted on 07/19/2005 11:30:27 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Does not say anything abour cars or, my TiVo either.


23 posted on 07/19/2005 11:31:04 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Shaka

And my favorite

Ephesians 5:31

31 "For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh."[a] Gen. 2:24Ge 2:24Mt 19:51Co 6:16

Wife = Woman


24 posted on 07/19/2005 11:31:12 AM PDT by Shaka
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Howie, the Constitution says nothing about abortion, either!


25 posted on 07/19/2005 11:32:00 AM PDT by txkev
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To: thoughtomator
Apparently Dr. Scream adheres to the Love Thy Neighbor as Thyself School of sexual gratification. It ain't just the Deaniacs he's ... well you take it from here.
26 posted on 07/19/2005 11:32:05 AM PDT by dblshot (Whose account can I count on?)
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To: Nachum

Why does the Bible not specifically say anything against gay "marriage"? Because they never would have made it to that point. You can hardly get married when you've been stoned to death!


27 posted on 07/19/2005 11:32:49 AM PDT by bella1 (red county, blue state)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Howard Dean really needs to read: Mat 7:13 "Go in through the narrow gate, because the gate to hell is wide and the road that leads to it is easy, and there are many who travel it. Mat 7:14 But the gate to life is narrow and the way that leads to it is hard, and there are few people who find it.

And Christians need to always: Mat 7:15 "Be on your guard against false prophets; they come to you looking like sheep on the outside, but on the inside they are really like wild wolves.

28 posted on 07/19/2005 11:33:11 AM PDT by Luke (CPO, USCG (Ret))
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It does refer to Howard Dean, there are numerous references to asses


29 posted on 07/19/2005 11:33:13 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
No. He didn't say anything about them marrying. He said to not even do it. Heck, he killed them for it at Sodom and Gomorrah. In Romans, he let them kill each other off, and he's doing it again today through AIDS. Being eaten alive by a virus is not something I would consider a "blessing!"
30 posted on 07/19/2005 11:34:08 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: nickcarraway
Hey, Howard, what does the Bible say about bike paths?

Make 'em straight and narrow!

31 posted on 07/19/2005 11:34:26 AM PDT by Dark Skies (All Muslims aren't evil...just the real ones.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

What does the Bible say against a man or woman marrying a dog, a sheep, or a goat?


32 posted on 07/19/2005 11:34:26 AM PDT by weegee (The blame on Plame is mainly that it's lame . . . - END THE ROVEBAITING NOW!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
He's right-- It doesn't say anything about gay marriage, because it's a nonsensical concept.

The Bible clearly condemns homosexuality, just like it condemns bestiality.

In addtion to the OT passges, Christ Himself said what marriage is-- between a man and a woman.

He didn't need to list all the thing s it's not, like man and man, man and goat, etc.

33 posted on 07/19/2005 11:34:30 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus (Hillary for Prez! -(The Whitehouse wants its china back; China wants the Whitehouse back))
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To: Pookyhead

Then why the muslim saying, a women for children, a man for pleasure. There is plenty o male on male sex in that part of the world. Just ask any soldier back from Afganistan.


34 posted on 07/19/2005 11:34:44 AM PDT by dblshot (Whose account can I count on?)
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To: Shaka

Howard is biblically illiterate and has proven to be so on numerous occasions. Bottom line is, most lib/dems are.


35 posted on 07/19/2005 11:34:56 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: thoughtomator
YES, DEAN IS AN IDIOT...CONTINUING MAKING A FOOL OF HIS SELF...AND PROVING HE DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE...

Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

37 posted on 07/19/2005 11:36:23 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: weegee
See Leviticus Chapter 18 for a long list of proscriptions on sexual behavior including beastiality.
38 posted on 07/19/2005 11:36:32 AM PDT by dblshot (Whose account can I count on?)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

unfortunately, i believe dean is correct. i don't recall anywhere that the bible SPECIFICALLY prohibits gay marriage. i also don't think the bible SPECIFICALLY covers abortion.
maybe that's because most of us understand that when God says "don't have homosexual sex" that means you probably shouldn't get married. just like when God said "Thou shall not kill" that includes unborn children.


39 posted on 07/19/2005 11:37:13 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: concerned about politics
I saw a gay male driving a jeep last weekend with a bumper sticker that simply said "Sodomite" (in addition to his "Hate Is Not A Family Value" sticker).

When people celebrate their sins, rather than just confess them, they celebrate evil.

Should we be tolerant of unrepentant kleptomaniacs? They "can't help it" and are happy to have all that free stuff.
40 posted on 07/19/2005 11:37:19 AM PDT by weegee (The blame on Plame is mainly that it's lame . . . - END THE ROVEBAITING NOW!)
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To: what's up
Before 20 years ago no one in the history of the world would ever have seriously considered gay marriage.

Exactly. The Bible says nothing abut marrying animals either, but I'm sure that will be next on the agenda (I predict within 10 years.)

The Bible is clear on the issues of homosexuality and other forms of sexual perversion. Howard needs to learn that if you play the game of semantics with The Word of God, you do so at your own Eternal risk.

41 posted on 07/19/2005 11:37:31 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sicked and tired!)
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To: Gimme my boots
The bible doesn't mention Howard Dean by name, therefore I conclude that he doesn't exist.

BTW, welcome to FR!

42 posted on 07/19/2005 11:37:48 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: what's up

It's the same thing when people claim that the first ammendment does not apply to the internet and that the second ammendment doesn't cover newer higher fire power guns.


43 posted on 07/19/2005 11:38:37 AM PDT by weegee (The blame on Plame is mainly that it's lame . . . - END THE ROVEBAITING NOW!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
"I have yet to find a reference to gay marriage in the Bible." said Dean...

And he's already up to page #5 !!

44 posted on 07/19/2005 11:39:37 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: thoughtomator

Hey I know Dr. Demento, Dr. Demento is a friend of mine, Howard Dean is no Dr. Demento ;>


46 posted on 07/19/2005 11:40:38 AM PDT by tophat9000 (When the State ASSUMES death...It makes an ASH out of you and me..)
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To: dblshot

But maybe that is just for unmarried couples. Maybe that is what makes it a sin in the eyes of God < /sarcasm >


47 posted on 07/19/2005 11:41:03 AM PDT by weegee (The blame on Plame is mainly that it's lame . . . - END THE ROVEBAITING NOW!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
in the 'right old days' a gay marriage wasn't even thought of

the sexual act is all that gets much mention, and you don't need a Bible to tell you there is definately something wrong with it

my feelings about it is on my page

My Opinion of Homo's and Liberals is best said in the text below:

Romans 1:21-31 1:21 Because, though they knew God, they did not glorify him as God, nor were they thankful; but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish hearts were darkened.

1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

1:23 And exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling corruptible man, and birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things.

1:24 Therefore God gave them up, through the lusts of their own hearts, to sexual impurity, to dishonour their own bodies among themselves:

1:25 Because they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

1:26 For this cause God gave them up to vile affections: for even their women exchanged natural relations for that which is against nature:

1:27 And likewise the men, leaving their natural relations with woman, burned in their lust toward one another; men with men doing that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

1:28 And as they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper.

1:29 They were filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, malice; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malevolence; whisperers,

1:30 Slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

1:31 Without understanding, untrustworthy, without natural affection, unmerciful:

48 posted on 07/19/2005 11:41:39 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: what's up

How did Dean make it thru medical school?

***

Maybe he went to the school where you pay x amount of dollars and they send you a sheepskin. No classes, no tests, no residency required. :)


49 posted on 07/19/2005 11:42:22 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Dr.Hilarious
oh, wait, here's something about the jawbone of an ass...

?LOL!

50 posted on 07/19/2005 11:42:25 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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