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Spec Ops Demonstration: Both Koreas (two videos)
BBC(Britain) & SBS(S. Korea) ^ | 2004 & 2005

Posted on 07/20/2005 10:30:22 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Spec Ops Demonstration: Both Koreas (two videos)

(1) S. Korean Spec Ops: Group  Demonstration by a Few Hundred Troops -- Martial Arts (2min 55sec)

Note: Ear-piercing shrieks during the demo are from female members. It reminds me of a N. Korean military parade including all-female units. N. Korean soldiers bark slogans while marching. When female detachment was marching and barking their slogans, it was really ear-piercing.

(2) N. Korea Spec Ops: Kim Jong-il's Own Bodyguards in Training -- Martial Arts and Shooting (1min 20sec)

Note: This is from a recent BBC video on N. Korea, featuring many topics, including his bodyguards. The bodyguards' demonstration starts at 59 sec into the video, ending at 2min 19sec into the video.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: demonstration; nkorea; skorea; specops

1 posted on 07/20/2005 10:30:24 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; OahuBreeze; yonif; risk; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 07/20/2005 10:30:50 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Can't watch them now (at work). Any chance of a summary?


3 posted on 07/20/2005 10:34:21 AM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

BTTT


4 posted on 07/20/2005 10:36:17 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Little Pig

The South Koreans are so incredibly disciplined it's terrifying...


5 posted on 07/20/2005 10:42:26 AM PDT by Alexander Rubin
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I just watched both.

What is with this smashing things with the forehead all about...?

How effective can a soldier be after learning to smash bricks with his or her head...?

I guess it is a cultural difference, good thing we do our smashing with artillery.
6 posted on 07/20/2005 10:42:38 AM PDT by mmercier
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To: Alexander Rubin
>> The South Koreans are so incredibly disciplined it's terrifying...

They are disciplined, but not quite "terrifying".

The North is going to eat that force up in an afternoon, then the truly "terrifying" force will land - ours -
7 posted on 07/20/2005 10:47:13 AM PDT by mmercier
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To: mmercier
Re #6

About using head to break things, this is useful in real close-in combat, when two combatants are actually physically tangled up. Hands and feet are no longer effective. However, you can bash nose or face of your opponent with your head. Something of a surprise weapon.

8 posted on 07/20/2005 10:50:58 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: mmercier

I don't think the north can invade the south for the simple reason that they've told their population that capitalist South Korea is a hellhole far worse than North Korea. Imagine what North Korean soldiers will think when they enter Seoul and see a comparative paradise- they will realize their whole worldview was a complete lie. I don't think the North Korean government can risk their peoples' response to that realization.


9 posted on 07/20/2005 10:51:46 AM PDT by Altair333 (Stop illegal immigration: George Allen in 2008)
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To: mmercier

a) It increases resistance to pain. Some of those guys can run with broken legs.

b) It is evidence and proof of discipline. Once you break things with your head in practice because someone say so, you're disciplined enough to go.

c) I am sure they have artillery.


10 posted on 07/20/2005 10:57:37 AM PDT by Alexander Rubin
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To: mmercier

I don't think it'll be as easy as you say...The South Koreans are tough, and they don't want to live in a communist 'utopia'...


11 posted on 07/20/2005 10:58:29 AM PDT by Alexander Rubin
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I saw true discipline and strength in both forces. I used to see this a lot in our forces too, but I don't any longer, not to this extent, not at this level, not at this strength.
12 posted on 07/20/2005 10:59:05 AM PDT by Chief_Joe (From where the sun now sits, I will fight on -FOREVER!!!)
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To: mmercier
The North is going to eat that force up in an afternoon, then the truly "terrifying" force will land - ours -

Initially I don't think it will so much "land" as it will fall from the sky.

13 posted on 07/20/2005 10:59:22 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Does it hurt when they shear your wool off?)
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To: Alexander Rubin
>> ...The South Koreans are tough, and they don't want to live in a communist 'utopia'...

They are tough and disciplined, but not wanting to live in a communist utopia may not be in line with their last few governments intent.

I have a cousin on the 38th parallel at this moment. I wish we would get the heck out of that place, as we are no longer welcome. Let them defend their own arses, why do we need to provide the initial casualties to prove the war started... Heck, the south reopened the rail lines on which the army of North Korea will use in their next invasion.
14 posted on 07/20/2005 11:07:26 AM PDT by mmercier
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To: TigerLikesRooster

So what's so scary about that? Their karate form was poor, they used no hips to generate power, frankly, I was bored. It reminded me of a bunch of mimes, but with sound...


15 posted on 07/20/2005 11:09:26 AM PDT by steel_resolve
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To: steel_resolve
Re #15

To be precise, it is not karate. They have their own brand of martial arts. Horse-mount stance with straight arm thrust is not their main menu. It is true that group demo tend to make certain compromise to coordinate the group choreography.

Perhaps you want demos for individual or pair performance. I will try to dig around what is available on their websites.

16 posted on 07/20/2005 11:21:51 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: steel_resolve

It's not karate, although it is just as effective. They don't use Japanese stances, as you'll notice. They have their own brands of martial arts.


17 posted on 07/20/2005 11:31:05 AM PDT by Alexander Rubin
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To: TigerLikesRooster; mmercier

No room to punch or kick? Closs quarters or standing still?
A well executed Head But is one of the most brutal things you'll ever see.


18 posted on 07/20/2005 12:25:06 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: TigerLikesRooster
hard solutions:

a few of these new microwave crowd dispersal units

Or a few million of these, airdropped outside their bases...


19 posted on 07/20/2005 10:49:05 PM PDT by Yehuda (America: Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE! [" Choke on it, pinkos!"])
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Re #19

Another potentially effective soft solution is to dump DVD players and video CDs of latest S. Korean melodramas. It could be more effective than dropping burgers.

20 posted on 07/21/2005 2:25:54 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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Well choreographed kata.

boring.


21 posted on 07/21/2005 3:09:03 AM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I'm guessing the CD and DVD players will be dropped soon after.


22 posted on 07/21/2005 3:22:27 AM PDT by bobdsmith
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