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Pop-Ups Drive Customers Away
Media Buyer ^ | 7/28/05

Posted on 07/28/2005 3:26:04 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

Seventy percent of consumers said they were unlikely to purchase from, or even return to, a Web site that has pop-up advertising, registration log-on pages, software installation, or slow-loading pages, E-Commerce Times reports.

A study, commissioned by Hostway, a Chicago-based Web site hosting service, found that approximately 35 percent of visitors to commercial sites said pop-up ads were their number one pet peeve.

More than 24 percent of the respondents said they were extremely or somewhat likely to complain to the company when they were exasperated by a site.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: ads; internet; news
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1 posted on 07/28/2005 3:26:04 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

"Seventy percent of consumers said they were unlikely to purchase from, or even return to, a Web site that has pop-up advertising, registration log-on pages, software installation, or slow-loading pages, E-Commerce Times reports."

Once again, common sense works just as well and usually a lot faster than most studies.


2 posted on 07/28/2005 3:27:52 PM PDT by Sofa King (MY rights are not subject to YOUR approval.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Drudge Report was removed from my bookmarks this morning for that very reason.

Clicked on two stories and got SIX pop-ups.

Bye, Matt.


3 posted on 07/28/2005 3:27:55 PM PDT by jra
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To: Sofa King

Yep...the first sentence just about sums it up. No additional information necessary.


4 posted on 07/28/2005 3:29:40 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: jra

I quit going to Drudge when spyware was installed there. That was quite enough for me.


5 posted on 07/28/2005 3:30:34 PM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

They needed a study to figure this out?


6 posted on 07/28/2005 3:31:01 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Common sense prevails once again.

Duh?

It amazes me that the folks that design this stuff could look at popup ads and say with a straight face, "Oh, yeah! The visitors to our site are gonna LOVE this!"

I guess some people are just stupid.

7 posted on 07/28/2005 3:32:18 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Well shoot, I could have told you that.


8 posted on 07/28/2005 3:32:48 PM PDT by 4mycountry (This tag dedicated to ~ The Legend of Zelda 2005)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

This is such a surprise. /sarcasm off


9 posted on 07/28/2005 3:33:55 PM PDT by GOP_Proud (...when the Iraqi soldiers stand up, we will stand down...GWB)
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To: jra
"Drudge Report was removed from my bookmarks this morning for that very reason.

Clicked on two stories and got SIX pop-ups.

Bye, Matt."

Were the popups the result of exiting the Drudge Report (code from the Drudge site), or due to code on the news sites you visited that were linked at Drudge's site? If it's the latter, Drudge isn't at fault. BTW, I noticed a while back that Drudge's own site popups appear now even while using Firefox with popup blocking enabled. A solution is:

Like you, I love Firefox for many reasons, including popup blocking. So over the last few weeks I’ve been surprised to see occasional popups.

It turns out that some clever people figured out that you could launch popups from Flash, getting around the Firefox default settings.

Fortunately, you can get around it:

Type about:config into the Firefox location bar. Right-click on the page and select New and then Integer. Name it privacy.popups.disable_from_plugins Set the value to 2.
The possible values are:

0: Allow all popups from plugins.
1: Allow popups, but limit them to dom.popup_maximum.
2: Block popups from plugins.
3: Block popups from plugins, even on whitelisted sites.


10 posted on 07/28/2005 3:34:33 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: jra

I wondered how people dealt with that


11 posted on 07/28/2005 3:34:35 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection (I urge Roberts to support all sections of the Constitution which uphold abortion)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I hate registration sites.

I'm a bugmenot fanatic.


12 posted on 07/28/2005 3:35:19 PM PDT by GOP_Proud (...when the Iraqi soldiers stand up, we will stand down...GWB)
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To: jra

Absolutely. Problem is users put up with Tracking cookies, Ad- and Malware.

You know what I can't stand is a site so over-Javaed it looks like a pinball machine.

:-)


13 posted on 07/28/2005 3:36:13 PM PDT by cloud8
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To: monkapotamus

I was going to have people email me in order to privately explain methods of getting around the problem, why make it obvious to the URLs?


14 posted on 07/28/2005 3:36:45 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection (I urge Roberts to support all sections of the Constitution which uphold abortion)
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To: cloud8

over-Java'd or over-Flashed?


15 posted on 07/28/2005 3:38:08 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: monkapotamus

SUPER!! it worked!

Thank you...


16 posted on 07/28/2005 3:42:54 PM PDT by It's me
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

You don't say! ..... ;)


17 posted on 07/28/2005 3:46:18 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the"and Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: It's me
You're welcome. Here is the original source of the information - I found it last week while searching Google:

Firefox popups

http://www.petebevin.com/archives/2005/03/10/firefox_popups.html

18 posted on 07/28/2005 3:47:48 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: jra
Ditto.

Every time I hit Drudge I spend an hour cleaning up.

I would never purchase anything from a pop up, and I hope aQ gets them all.
19 posted on 07/28/2005 3:48:27 PM PDT by mmercier (enter the land of unintended consequence)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Seventy percent of consumers said they were unlikely to purchase from, or even return to, a Web site that has pop-up advertising

That's exactly what happened at the Drudge Report, numerous popups caused me to quit going there.

20 posted on 07/28/2005 3:49:59 PM PDT by RJL
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

My first assumption when designing a website is that everyone coming to the site is using a dialup connection.So I keep the total size per page at 100k or less. Also zero popups. The advertisements have to blend in with the page itself. Popups are the Telemarketers of the Internet in my opinion. And we all know how most of us feel about Telemarketers.


21 posted on 07/28/2005 3:50:08 PM PDT by JustAnAmerican (CAFTA Supporters: Def. Modern day Benedict Arnolds(See American History))
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
So, that means that they are fishing in a pond with 30% potential. Pop-ups and SPAMers need only 1% to thrive.
22 posted on 07/28/2005 3:56:04 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Sofa King
"Once again, common sense works...."

Oh, really? Then why are the number of pop-ups and SPAMs increasing.

23 posted on 07/28/2005 3:58:24 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: monkapotamus

Thanks! I was wondering how I was still getting popups on occasion.


24 posted on 07/28/2005 3:59:51 PM PDT by Warhammer (If being broke is normal, then I want to be wierd!)
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To: RJL
Here is a sample of the annonying code that generates those pop up ads on the Drudgereport. Lots of money in them thar pops!

INTERMARKETS POP-UNDER CODE v1.8 for drudgereport.com (12 hour

INTERMARKETS POP-UNDER CODE v1.8 for drudgereport.com --> END OF CODE

TF 468x60 JScript HORIZ code -->

468x60 v1.4 for drudgereport.com -->

25 posted on 07/28/2005 4:02:46 PM PDT by BlackRain
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To: Buffalo Head

I said that common sense works, not that very many people had it.


26 posted on 07/28/2005 4:03:57 PM PDT by Sofa King (MY rights are not subject to YOUR approval.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

As for newspaper registration, someone needs to start a revolution: each time a reader follows a link to a news site to read a story but is asked to register, they should write to the editor saying simply "I was intrigued by your story 'Story Title Here' dated dd/mm/yy, but I will not visit your website to read it because I simply refuse to register to use it. Thus, your advertiser will not be getting my clicks."



If enough people did this, listing the specific article each and every time, the registration requirements would disappear.


27 posted on 07/28/2005 4:04:33 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: monkapotamus

BEARS REPETITION:


Like you, I love Firefox for many reasons, including popup blocking. So over the last few weeks I’ve been surprised to see occasional popups.

It turns out that some clever people figured out that you could launch popups from Flash, getting around the Firefox default settings.

Fortunately, you can get around it:

Type about:config into the Firefox location bar. Right-click on the page and select New and then Integer. Name it privacy.popups.disable_from_plugins Set the value to 2.
The possible values are:

0: Allow all popups from plugins.
1: Allow popups, but limit them to dom.popup_maximum.
2: Block popups from plugins.
3: Block popups from plugins, even on whitelisted sites.


28 posted on 07/28/2005 4:06:48 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Petronski

Drudge is the only site I have problems with. I'm not going to waste keystrokes just so I can go to his site. I have everything else working fine.

BTW, I'm starting to get spam on my fax machine at home. I simply send a 5 page return fax asking the sender to cease sending me unsolicited faxes. I use completely black pages with highlighted wording.


29 posted on 07/28/2005 4:13:05 PM PDT by umgud (Comment removed by poster before moderator could get to it)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

*LOL*

And most of us have found ways to block 'em..


30 posted on 07/28/2005 4:15:20 PM PDT by k2blader (Hic sunt dracones..)
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To: monkapotamus

Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU! You are like a beautiful dream - one without popups...


31 posted on 07/28/2005 4:16:54 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: jra

One of the new popups at drudgereport is for a porn site. Classy stuff, Matt.


32 posted on 07/28/2005 4:20:26 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: upchuck

Some webadmins are lured by an easy way to generate money for each click from their website, but some sites become so convuluted with pop-ups and redirects that you can't even reach their homepage. I don't know what these people could be thinking, ultimately the best way to generate money from the web is to offer a legitimate product or service and work hard at attaining rank in the major search engines. It's harder to do, but it will ultimately lead to more stable income and keep you from attracting the interest of lawyers- which will be increasingly likely in the future IMHO.


33 posted on 07/28/2005 4:21:45 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances and it advances relentlessly freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Junior_G

Hm, I disabled my blocker and got two non-porn-related pop-ups (Vonage and University of Phoenix).


34 posted on 07/28/2005 4:24:23 PM PDT by k2blader (Hic sunt dracones..)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

"a Web site that has pop-up advertising, registration log-on pages, software installation, or slow-loading pages..."

Matt Drudge is about to loose me as a reader for these reasons - pop-ups, slow-loading pages. I can come here, catch up on 'Breaking News', see new comments to me, and get to 'Latest Posts' before the DrudgeReport loads - and I get no pop-ups! BTW, thanks, Jim!


35 posted on 07/28/2005 4:32:09 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: jra

I hate them too. And, I virtually never go to Drudge anymore.


36 posted on 07/28/2005 4:32:32 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Sofa King

Common sense is cheaper, too.


37 posted on 07/28/2005 4:33:08 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Honor - Dignity - Courage)
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To: monkapotamus

Many thanks for the fix- passing it on to all interested parties I know.


38 posted on 07/28/2005 4:33:41 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: mmercier

How exactly do you clean up your computer? I'm not very computer literate when it comes to these types of software programs.


39 posted on 07/28/2005 4:34:17 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: diamond6

Google tool bar stops most pop ups.


40 posted on 07/28/2005 4:36:16 PM PDT by Pharmboy (There is no positive correlation between the ability to write, act, sing or dance and being right)
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To: monkapotamus

Interesting solution. Mine was to no longer go to Drudge. I was particularly peeved that his popups were attempting to install a virus on my machine.


41 posted on 07/28/2005 4:36:23 PM PDT by jjw
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To: Lady Jag

I just deleted Drudge


42 posted on 07/28/2005 4:37:15 PM PDT by MudSlide
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To: diamond6
These help:

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx

http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

http://www.download.com/Spybot-Search-Destroy/3000-8022_4-10122137.html

43 posted on 07/28/2005 4:39:32 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: Sofa King
"Seventy percent of consumers said they were unlikely to purchase from, or even return to, a Web site that has pop-up advertising, registration log-on pages, software installation, or slow-loading pages, E-Commerce Times reports."

Simply biased reporting, and not real statistics. Why do websites have pop-ups? Because people buy off of them. Advertisers don't dump money into advertising that doesn't provide results, and websites have pop-up advertising because advertisers will pay the most for them.

70% won't return? Gosh, the NY Times has a huge registration database, where people return time and time again, yet they have annoying pop-ups, registration and some of the slowest loading pages out there. Their newest trick is to show an advertisement before showing the story.

The absence of common sense here is that a reporter is making up statistics on the fly to support their preconceived notions and the additional lack of common sense exhibited by those folks who buy crud off of pop-up advertising.
44 posted on 07/28/2005 4:42:36 PM PDT by kingu (Draft Fmr Senator Fred Thompson for '08.)
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To: MudSlide; Tumbleweed_Connection
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Windows XP's pop-up stopper. It stops most if not all of them, plus the Google toolbar works as backup. I'm not sure if Google gets any, but I get NO pop-ups at Drudge . . . on the rare occasion I go there.
45 posted on 07/28/2005 4:44:42 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Honor - Dignity - Courage)
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To: umgud

Drudge has pop-ups? Never seen any on my screen. Pop-ups are very fast to turn me off from a site as well. Must be my Norton doing a good job playing popup cop.


46 posted on 07/28/2005 4:49:54 PM PDT by diverteach
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To: RJL

Speaking of Drudge's page, is it refreshing more often than it used to...naturally serving up a new ad with each refresh?


47 posted on 07/28/2005 5:04:54 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more work horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: diamond6
>> I'm not very computer literate when it comes to these types of software programs.

Me too.

I am just talking about the crap that loads itself into the scroll bar. About one in ten locks the works up, and I have to restart the machine. That is one of the greatest things about the Free Republic, no hassles, no nothing but information. I get everything that Drudge and every other net has to offer here. Every so often things go really bad, then I call mom and she fixes things.
48 posted on 07/28/2005 5:05:50 PM PDT by mmercier (choosing my confessions)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Web site that has pop-up advertising, registration log-on pages, software installation, or slow-loading pages,

Pop - ups - I don't allow them on my computer. Firefox plus a dedicated pop-up blocker get the job done.

Log on - That's what Bug Me Not is for.

Software installation - It depends. If I want something bad enough, I'll launch IE or Mozilla where I have installed the common plugins. Otherwise, I'll look for a link to their non-Flash version, or give up on the site.

Slow loading - Just pop open another tab and do something else while waiting for the page to load.

So 3 and a half of these 'problems' can be avoided by switching to Firefox and a quick download.

49 posted on 07/28/2005 5:06:55 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: kingu

"The absence of common sense here is that a reporter is making up statistics on the fly"

I'm still waiting to see the data that your claims are based off of.


50 posted on 07/28/2005 5:10:31 PM PDT by Sofa King (MY rights are not subject to YOUR approval.)
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