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UFCW Is Third Union to Abandon AFL-CIO (TOO MUCH MONEY GOING TO DEMS!!! (AND THEY ADMIT IT!!!)
The Associated Press ^ | 7/29/05 | The Associate Press

Posted on 07/29/2005 3:50:22 PM PDT by paulat

Edited on 07/29/2005 4:23:48 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON - The United Food and Commercial Workers on Friday joined the Teamsters and Service Workers in abandoning the AFL-CIO, depriving the labor federation of three of its largest unions and close to $28 million of its estimated $120 million budget.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aflcio; cnim; dinosaurs; lead; pleosticene; unions
"The unions breaking away from the AFL-CIO want to commit more money to recruiting new members and complain that the federation has committed too much money and placed too much emphasis on backing political candidates — particularly Democrats."
1 posted on 07/29/2005 3:50:22 PM PDT by paulat
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To: paulat

The democrat party has been ANIHILATING the unions. Somebody actually is trying to reform the utterly corrupt AFL-CIO.


2 posted on 07/29/2005 3:53:19 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: paulat

tis about time.


3 posted on 07/29/2005 3:54:15 PM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: paulat

I don't think they are FOR Republicans either...However, I do think the unions are finally getting smart. Support the ones who support your cause, dump the others. The BIG DOGS at the top of the Democrat Party are anti-American and anti-military and the union members (not the bosses) don't like it. I'll give the members credit for speaking up on this issue.

I still don't trust union management or Democrat party big wigs -- no matter what!


5 posted on 07/29/2005 4:01:43 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: paulat

http://www.sierratimes.com/rss/newswire.php?article=/news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050729/ap_on_bi_ge/labor_rift&time=1122674697&feed=us


6 posted on 07/29/2005 4:01:49 PM PDT by pookie18 (Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
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To: Gimme my boots
Yep, the liberal Demographic Party is nearing the final stages of Leprosy. Its senses are shutting down and it's becoming a hideous sight. By 2008 it'll be a totally rotted, decomposing body held together only by the lunatic fringe and the Dems will still crawl all over it like maggots.

....I'm not quite getting the image. Could you be a bit more descriptive?.......

;)

7 posted on 07/29/2005 4:03:39 PM PDT by paulat
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To: paulat
Two issues here.

#1 Some unions think they are getting no bang for the buck with all the Democrat party donations and figure it only get's their union leadership perks and rich.

#2 The unions what to be more aggressive in getting members in businesses, which to me means these break of cells are going to cause big problems and violence while trying to get into businesses and contracts on their terms.

I think the result of violence and stupidity will further reduce the unions that exist.

Next we need to end the union monopolies of the teacher's union and all the government union.
At the very least we need to limit government connected union benefits and wages to NO MORE than the average wage and benefits in the private sector.
8 posted on 07/29/2005 4:08:13 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: paulat

Here's the latest take from the Laborer's - direct of the LIUNA website:



LIUNA Remains Committed to Union Movement Reform and
Doing What’s Best for Laborers as Teamsters, SEIU Leave AFL-CIO

LIUNA General President Terence M. O’Sullivan reaffirmed the Laborers’ current commitment to remain in the AFL-CIO and to attend the Federation’s convention now in progress in Chicago. At the same time, General President O’Sullivan said LIUNA is firmly committed to Change to Win and its principles of reforming the labor movement.

As the convention opened today, two affiliates--the Teamsters and Service Employees International Union--were scheduled to disaffiliate, taking 3 million union members out of the Federation. Two other unions with an additional 1.5 million members--the United Food and Commercial Workers and UNITE HERE--are boycotting the convention and may disaffiliate as well.

All four are partners with the Laborers in the Change to Win Coalition, which was founded June 15 in response to the declining power of unions and working families. It now includes seven unions with 6 million members--LIUNA, the Teamsters, SEIU, UNITE HERE, the UFCW, the Carpenters and the United Farm Workers.

“The upheaval in Chicago is the culmination of a year-long debate with the labor movement over how to rebuild unions so they are once again a significant force in the lives of America’s working families,” said General President O’Sullivan. “Despite months of discussion with the current AFL-CIO leadership, there has been no substantive change in their positions.”

While Laborers have consistently said the union will remain in the AFL-CIO and fight for reform from within, in light of current events LIUNA will engage in a full and serious discussion with leadership and members about its future place in the AFL-CIO. The union will take up the issue at length and in detail at its September Leadership Conference.

“We must and will do what is best for Laborers and all working people,” General President O’Sullivan said. “As a result of our differences with the current Federation leadership, I along with other Change to Win members will not accept nomination for re-election to the AFL-CIO Executive Council.”

There are stark differences between Change to Win’s platform and the AFL-CIO leadership, despite the Federations assertion that differences had narrowed.

The AFL-CIO chose to emphasize political spending at the expense of organizing--Change to Win unions backed allocating half of the AFL-CIO’s per capita revenues and its credit card royalties to organizing, or about $72 million a year. The AFL-CIO proposed $22.5 million. In addition, the Federation declined to institute standards of accountability for all affiliates to ensure that every link of the labor movement is strong enough to organize, mobilize and be heard in politics.

“Workers today worry about paying for health care, about having a job tomorrow, about putting their kids through school and eventually having the ability to retire. The way the labor movement is structured today it does not have the power to win these kinds of fights for working people,” General President O’Sullivan said. “It is hard to understand how the current leadership could propose pouring more money into politics when it is obvious that the key to the decline of the union movement is because we are losing members and market share. I believe fundamentally that the only path forward is through growth. The current AFL-CIO leadership believes they can politick its way out of our decline.”

LIUNA is fully engaged with Change to Win and has begun joint meetings of organizing and political staffs to chart future efforts, while continuing to be engaged with the Federation

“It is crucial that all trade unionists remain focused on the real issue: growing our organizations so that working men and women have the real power they deserve and the strength they need to win family-supporting wages, good benefits and future security,” General President O’Sullivan said. “This is not a fight between unions, but rather a fight for justice for ordinary working men and women and restoring the American Dream.”

LIUNA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS, 905 16TH STREET, N.W. WASHINGTON, D.C. 20006 7/25/2005


10 posted on 07/29/2005 4:09:20 PM PDT by Bush_Democrat (Ex-Democrat since 2001)
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To: paulat
The unions breaking away from the AFL-CIO want to commit more money to recruiting new members and complain that the federation has committed too much money and placed too much emphasis on backing political candidates — particularly Democrats.

Hmm...wonder if my sending back their propaganda and including '04 Bush materials had an affect last year? ;-)

Too late. I'm non union now, but love to see the unions splintering.

11 posted on 07/29/2005 4:12:14 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: paulat
As a former AFL-CIO member (I was a member of the union until the day I retired), I'm following this issue with interest.

The leadership just doesn't get it, that members don't want them to march lockstep with the Dems, esp. on social issues like abortion and anti-war positions.

12 posted on 07/29/2005 4:12:17 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: paulat
NOW is the time to reform U.S. labor laws which were designed to function in a 1930s-1950s industrial economy! Reforms are needed while the unions are on the mat.

You never know when unions and the labor-friendly laws that give them succor will rise from the grave to bite our country in the a$$ again.

13 posted on 07/29/2005 4:13:48 PM PDT by bourbon (It's the target that decides whether terror wins.)
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To: paulat; Gimme my boots
Yep, the liberal Demographic Party is nearing the final stages of Leprosy. Its senses are shutting down and it's becoming a hideous sight. By 2008 it'll be a totally rotted, decomposing body held together only by the lunatic fringe and the Dems will still crawl all over it like maggots.

....I'm not quite getting the image. Could you be a bit more descriptive?....... ;)

LOL

14 posted on 07/29/2005 4:15:20 PM PDT by barker (If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence try ordering somebody else's dog around.)
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To: paulat

Ah, something I can drink to....and if Gov Arnold gets the ballot measure passed that will require unions to get member permission before spending on politics is passed, I'm having a party. Unions are corrupt extortionists IMO


15 posted on 07/29/2005 4:18:50 PM PDT by madison46 (Would Dems in 1904 be running on ideas from 1835? That's what they do now.)
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To: A CA Guy

There are no need for Gov't/Public unions. CA see's that with the correction officer unions and teacher unions


16 posted on 07/29/2005 4:20:08 PM PDT by madison46 (Would Dems in 1904 be running on ideas from 1835? That's what they do now.)
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To: pookie18

It's the same article on another website...so?


17 posted on 07/29/2005 4:22:11 PM PDT by paulat
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To: Gimme my boots
I don't have the computer equipment, but, imagine Kennedy's bloated face, Helen Thomas' ass-ugly face morphed together and overlaid with Dean's scream face.

Oh, and while you're picturing that stick it on Michael Moore's body attired in a Speedo size 32.

...okay, you win in imagry over "Gimme my boots"! (but just barely....)

18 posted on 07/29/2005 4:24:00 PM PDT by paulat
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To: paulat; SierraWasp; Grampa Dave
particularly Democrats."

Nice post and emphasis. We'll see if this makes a sea change, as I'm anxiously hoping for.

19 posted on 07/29/2005 4:28:05 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Ciexyz

What does abortion and an anti-war stance have to do with wages and working conditions anyhow? As long as it says "AFSCME"(the crime syndicate that claims to represent me) on the label, I'll fight it all the way...


20 posted on 07/29/2005 4:29:44 PM PDT by chadwimc
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Inspite of all the union money, one fact stands out.
21 posted on 07/29/2005 4:43:04 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: paulat

When I first went to the thread...there was no link...so?


22 posted on 07/29/2005 4:44:55 PM PDT by pookie18 (Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
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To: pookie18

I have no idea what you're talking about.


23 posted on 07/29/2005 4:54:18 PM PDT by paulat
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To: paulat

Union dues are only supposed to be used for collective bargaining, contract administration, or grievance adjustment.


24 posted on 07/29/2005 4:58:11 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: BOBTHENAILER

Most unions (I have belonged to 6 over the years) have at least 30% Republicans among their members (a number I pull directly from my... imagination). It is high time that the leadership started listening to this huge bloc.


25 posted on 07/29/2005 5:00:08 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: paulat

HA ha...
26 posted on 07/29/2005 5:55:41 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: Gimme my boots
(I'm losing my own lunch)

And you just had to take everybody else down that road with you, now didn't ya?

(Your words evoked one horrible visual!)

27 posted on 07/29/2005 6:04:40 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: paulat
For generations, the Dems had been able to hold onto power by delivering goodies to the people who finance them

The downside, of course, is once they are out of power, and unable to deliver the goodies, then the people who had been giving them money and time no longer have anything to show for it, so they stop supporting the Dems

28 posted on 07/29/2005 6:10:45 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: A CA Guy
Next we need to end the union monopolies of the teacher's union and all the government union.

No union that represents people paid by US taxpayers in any way shape or form should be allowed to participate in politics. They can encourage their members to vote, but not one dime of dues should be spent on politics.

29 posted on 07/29/2005 6:11:47 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: chadwimc

My sympathies to you for being represented by AFSCME. Hope you never need them for something important. (I'll give them credit for successful bargaining on the issue of wages.)


30 posted on 07/29/2005 6:57:59 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: McGavin999

Good point!


31 posted on 07/29/2005 10:56:49 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: paulat
Trouble in the evil donkey's barn always makes me smile.
32 posted on 07/30/2005 5:38:34 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (The ratmedia: always eager to remind us of why we hate them.)
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To: paulat

bump


33 posted on 07/30/2005 10:11:31 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Teacher317
Couldn't have said it better myself. My ex-wife is a teacher, and even though she's gotten more liberal the last few years, she hates the teacher's union.

She's been a nurse long before she was a teacher and knows the difference.

34 posted on 07/30/2005 10:43:59 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do, but we're gonna getcha)
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2006 ping for a 2005 topic, as we head into the election.


35 posted on 09/20/2006 10:53:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Saturday, September 16, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: paulat

The UFCW had some real sleazeballs working for them and some rather unsavory recruiting tactics back when I used to be a non-union grocery store worker.


36 posted on 09/20/2006 10:54:14 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: paulat
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA!
Less money for the RATS.....I love it.
37 posted on 09/20/2006 10:54:24 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of "dependence on government"!)
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To: newsgatherer

38 posted on 09/20/2006 10:55:05 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of "dependence on government"!)
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To: paulat

I just hope they don't start buying off Republicans with that money. Democrats supporting the goonery and socialism of unions is a natural fit. But any Republican that would support unions is a 2-bit political whore that needs to be kicked out of the party.


39 posted on 09/20/2006 11:00:10 AM PDT by shempy (EABOF)
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