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Apple Introduces Mighty Mouse (Finally, a multi-button mouse from Apple!)
Apple Computer, Inc. ^ | August 2, 2005

Posted on 08/02/2005 8:43:02 AM PDT by Dont Mention the War

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To: CheneyChick

I tried a Kensington cordless, but went back to a corded. Husband complained too much about the cost of the triple A batteries. The way I have my work space arranged, the cord isn't much of a problem.

Went to Apple's website to check it out. I am impressed, and will be ordering one today. Apple absolutely has the best industrial designers!


41 posted on 08/02/2005 9:36:46 AM PDT by jacquej
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To: Paradox
Uh, geniuses, thats not a scroll WHEEL, its a scroll BALL. Not a very common feature on mice offered today. I have not tried this Apple mouse, and probably wont anytime soon, but lets get our facts straight here..

I get the same effect by clicking on the scroll wheel on my Logitech (Cordless) TrackMan Wheel, then using the trackball to scroll around (dunno if Microsoft mice/trackballs offer the same deal; it's been forever since I used one). Also, for those times when precision scrolling (up/down only) is required, the wheel provides a tactile response. Somehow, I don't think Apple can offer the same combination with Mighty Mouse, but if they are, all the more power to them.

42 posted on 08/02/2005 9:37:54 AM PDT by steveegg (Real torture is taking a ride with Sen Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy in a 1968 Oldsmobile off a short bridge)
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To: jacquej
I wonder what the theory/philosophy behind Apple's single click mouse is. Does anyone have any ideas?

According to Apple's research in Gestalt psychology theory, it's easier for new users to learn how to work a computer with a single-button mouse. Apple advises software developers to design programs so that a multi-button mouse is not required for operation.

A single-button mouse can simulate a right-click by holding down the Option key on the keyboard while clicking the mouse button.

43 posted on 08/02/2005 9:42:57 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: steveegg

These days the cordless are good, back when they first came out they were junk. Of course since both my Trackman's are relatively new even if I decide today my next pointers will be cordless that won't happen for 3 or 4 years.

Never like those huge central balls of the MS trackballs, I like keeping my button fingers stationary and I've never figured out how to do that with their design. The thumb ball is the way to go. I never liked mice period, seems I always have to do a lot of "rowing" (picking up and repositioning to go further in one direction) and that's just so much easier with a trackball than a mouse. Plus trackballs seem to confuse people so my computers get a little additional security.

It'll be interesting to see how this scrollball works out. There've been a lot of attempts in the last few years to handle horizontal scrolling and most of them have sucked. The industry seems to have by and large abandoned the effort lately. We shall see.


44 posted on 08/02/2005 9:48:09 AM PDT by discostu (When someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back)
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To: HAL9000
A single-button mouse can simulate a right-click by holding down the Option key on the keyboard while clicking the mouse button.

Oops, that should say the "Control" key.

45 posted on 08/02/2005 9:49:27 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: Dont Mention the War

Y'all must be thrilled...


46 posted on 08/02/2005 9:50:29 AM PDT by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you will have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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To: Dont Mention the War
Thanks, Apple ... but I still don't like the shape of your mice. I think I'll stick with my Kensington ...


47 posted on 08/02/2005 9:52:53 AM PDT by al_c
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To: HAL9000

DVForge is coming out with "The World's First Bluetooth Wireless Trackball" called "The Ball" and it looks pretty interesting. They are targetting people who don't use trackballs.

http://www.dvforge.com/theball.shtml



48 posted on 08/02/2005 9:55:10 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: jacquej
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'Cause it was the first mouse, and just so damned cool! :)
Notice the DB9 connector - this puppy plugs onto a card slotted in my Apple][+. Also: it only had 9 pins and there's no electronics on the board - the quadrature signals go down the line to the computer (where the circuitry is). With power, ground, button, and 4 detector lines, it only leaves 2 wires. They _could_ have added another 2 buttons; but depended upon using the modifier keys instead - nobody ever _thought_ more than one button was necessary.

49 posted on 08/02/2005 9:56:56 AM PDT by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
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To: steveegg
I get the same effect by clicking on the scroll wheel on my Logitech (Cordless) TrackMan Wheel, then using the trackball to scroll around (dunno if Microsoft mice/trackballs offer the same deal; it's been forever since I used one).

Yes, this is a feature of the operating system, not the trackball, so it's not just your Logitech that does this. But you don't get "the same effect", you get a better effect. By default, clicking the middle button (which is basically what the scroll click is) causes a reference point to appear at the cursor's current location, then scrolls in the direction the cursor is moved to. So let's say you want to scroll slowly through a document. Middle-click, then move the cursor down slightly, then stop. The document will scroll by and will keep on scrolling by. If you want to scroll faster, move the cursor down a little bit, and if you want to scroll slower, move it up a little bit. Good luck replicating the effect with a scroll ball like Apple's.

50 posted on 08/02/2005 9:59:15 AM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: Politicalities
Yet another example of Apple's penchant for style over substance.

It's kind of like a 12-inch phallus: fine for looks, but anything after the first seven inches is pure overkill.

51 posted on 08/02/2005 10:01:00 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Dont Mention the War

I'll reserve judgment. This may be okay at work (graphic design) where they're too cheap to buy tablets, but at home, I'll stick with my Wacom Graphire tablet with cordless mouse and stylus/pen. I love it! Paid $60 for it 5 years ago from someone on eBay who had no clue what he had.


52 posted on 08/02/2005 10:26:10 AM PDT by kimmie7 (The ACLU is a boil on the butt of humanity!)
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To: Ksnavely
Ingenious scroll wheel??? What is so ingenious about that? I have had my Logitech MX 1000 for quite awhile now and it has 4 way scroll functionality. Article should be rewritten, Mac mouse function enters the 21st century 5 years late.

Reread it. It's not a scroll wheel.

53 posted on 08/02/2005 10:28:40 AM PDT by Dont Mention the War (John Bolton for White House Press Secretary!)
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To: Rodney King
Yeah, but then it's a one button mouse.

No, it's like a 2 button mouse on top, with two extra buttons on the side. I though you were talking about the side button on your thumb side. Even if you set the two side buttons to do nothing, you still have the equivilent of a two button mouse. It's pretty clever. But the price is a little too high, IMO.

54 posted on 08/02/2005 10:51:56 AM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: Dont Mention the War; All

Lock your peepers on this link, and compare the features...

Looks very interesting, and different from existing programmable mice to me, but I am no expert on programmable mice. Doesn't it work with both Macs and PCs?

http://www.apple.com/mightymouse/software.html


55 posted on 08/02/2005 10:53:09 AM PDT by jacquej
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To: steveegg

One word - laser! no more ball!


56 posted on 08/02/2005 11:17:12 AM PDT by Serpentor (go to www.jihadwatch.org for the truth!)
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To: solitas

I like the older (ADB) better than the 'middle' ones (USB w/6 function buttons), but the one pictured is sweet. I have it on my computer at work. It's an optical trackball (no rollers to clog) with a scroll wheel that works swimmingly.

The feel is very close to what I remember from my old ADB Turbo Mice.


57 posted on 08/02/2005 11:32:30 AM PDT by Mr. Thorne ("But iron, cold iron, shall be master of them all..." Kipling)
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To: Politicalities
Of course, I may be biased. I switched to a good ergonomic trackball several years ago and never looked back.

I have the MS Optical Trackball that you roll with your thumb. You roll the mousewheel with your middle finger. It also has the Forward and Backwards buttons on the sides. . Really like it, can't see using anything else.

BTW, I added mousewheel support for zooming in my $80 apps. Users love it. It and another feature were copied by a much larger company in their $40,000 app, right after they sicced their lawyers on me. Gotta love business ... NOT! Anyway, I'm looking into adding support for the Forward and Backward buttons once I figure out which resulting function makes the most sense.

58 posted on 08/02/2005 11:57:19 AM PDT by mikegi
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To: Mr. Thorne
Is it? I'll have to check it out. Thanks for the tip. The only problem with my current USB/ADB setup is that I _need_ a USB mouse connected for _some_ things (µsoft Intellimouse 5 button w/wheel) - but there's nothing like the Kensington for fine-work in Photoshop!
59 posted on 08/02/2005 12:02:51 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
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To: solitas
nobody ever _thought_ more than one button was necessary.

This is the first mouse, ever. It has one button.

But not long after, Engelbart had the NLS up and running with a three-button mouse (the thing on the left is a chord keyboard for commands).

Xerox took it to two buttons with the Star, and Apple eliminated one more.

60 posted on 08/02/2005 12:32:00 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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