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City Unveils Assault Weapon Registration Plan, Forms
Peoples Rights Organization (Ohio) ^ | 8/3/05 | n/a

Posted on 08/04/2005 10:01:25 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

City Unveils AW Registration Plan, Forms

8/3/2005

Columbus city officials today will unveil their registration scheme through which citizens are to "register" their firearms if they meet the definition of a so-called "assault weapon" under the wide-ranging gun ban passed by City Council on July 11. The ban goes into effect on August 11, and city residents have 90 days from that date to register or dispose of their firearms that meet the city's definition of an assault weapon.

The city has devised a form, which can be accessed via the city's website, to be mailed in. The mail-in method is hoped to to encourage people to comply with the controversial new ordinance. Of course, easy process or not, criminals still won't be registering their guns. Even the assistant city attorney who worked on the language for City Council, Josh Cox, admitted to the Columbus Dispatch in a story a few weeks ago that the ordinance will have no effect on criminals. One lawsuit already has been filed on this issue, and others are expected.

Look for media coverage on the registration forms on August 3. The city website, where residents can learn more about the ban, print a registration form, and try to determine whether their gun meets the ordinance description, is http://www.columbuscitycouncil.org/assaultweaponban/awbfaq.htm.

The city's website includes links to illustrations of various types of guns, even though the vaguely worded ordinance appears to cover many more guns than members of City Council mentioned when they worked for nearly nine months to terrify Columbus residents into supporting this law. There also is a link where you can download the form that is to be sent in to the city to register a firearm that is suspected of being an "assault weapon.

A REMINDER: Peoples Rights Organization is recommending that residents move any firearms they suspect might be covered by the ordinance outside the city limits until this matter is settled by the courts. This is important because the new law includes a draconian provision that prohibits gun owners who register their guns from ever selling their firearms, or leaving their guns to their heirs or loved ones upon their death.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: antigunners; banglist; gungrabbers

1 posted on 08/04/2005 10:01:26 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

Personally I'd consider selling my house and moving somewhere not ruled by fascists and socialists, though such places are getting harder and harder to find.

Free State Wyoming anyone?


2 posted on 08/04/2005 10:05:21 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: kiriath_jearim

No sweat. The ACLU will take care of this infringement of civil liberties in no time. Hell, it only took them about 2 days to threaten suits against NYC for random bag searches in the subway.

*crickets*

ACLU? Heloo...?

*crickets*


3 posted on 08/04/2005 10:05:22 AM PDT by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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To: kiriath_jearim

Does anyone have any idea how widespread the criminal use of these so-called 'assault weapons' is in Columbus? Or is it relevant? (sarc)


4 posted on 08/04/2005 10:05:51 AM PDT by Spok
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To: Gefreiter
Hey, don't knock the ACLU.

They're staunch defenders of all seven amendments in the Bill of Rights.

5 posted on 08/04/2005 10:06:31 AM PDT by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: Spok

Spok,
It more properly should be called legislation against "scary looking" weapons. That's about as well defined, I surmise, as the gun grabbers want it.


6 posted on 08/04/2005 10:14:20 AM PDT by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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To: George Smiley

Ah well...cold dead fingers and all that.


7 posted on 08/04/2005 10:14:54 AM PDT by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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To: kiriath_jearim

So with the stroke of a pen private property can be confiscated.


8 posted on 08/04/2005 10:24:59 AM PDT by Flint
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To: Jack Black

"Personally I'd consider selling my house and moving somewhere not ruled by fascists and socialists, though such places are getting harder and harder to find."

That's a good idea but these gun-grabber, UN-loving, socialist termites are like rust, they never sleep. They'll eventually get to wherever you are because there's really nothing to hold them back. They don't honor laws and the people who are supposed to uphold the laws don't either.

If it gets that bad where I am, I just won't comply but instead will wrap those evil looking guns in plastic and find a nice, safe place nearby to bury them. If it gets bad enough where you really need them they will be close to hand. I imagine there are lots of them already buried in the mountains here.


9 posted on 08/04/2005 10:27:14 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Gefreiter

"should be called legislation against "scary looking" weapons."

That's why I say 'so-called' assault weapons. A few years back, the liberals invented something called a 'Saturday night special'. It was a vaguely described firearm that eventually was expanded to include anything with a barrel length under 6" and even all single actions. It all just proves that those most vehemently opposed to gun ownership know the least about them.


10 posted on 08/04/2005 10:28:58 AM PDT by Spok
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To: kiriath_jearim

They can all go to hell.


11 posted on 08/04/2005 10:31:20 AM PDT by Noumenon (Activist judges - out of touch, out of tune, but not out of reach.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Exactly how many crimes have been committed with these "assault weapons"?

If someone can be convicted of assault for punching someone, shouldn't everyone register their fists? Or is that done automatically with our Citizen ID, er... Social Security Number?


12 posted on 08/04/2005 10:33:01 AM PDT by BostonianRightist (I don't trust a government I can't shoot back at.)
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To: Gefreiter

Its just a matter of time before columbus bans "mean thoughts" by its citizens. Thought Police will go door to door, making sure no one's thinking gets out of line.


13 posted on 08/04/2005 10:52:52 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Scratch a Liberal. Uncover a Fascist)
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To: kiriath_jearim
provision that prohibits gun owners who register their guns from ever selling their firearms, or leaving their guns to their heirs or loved ones upon their death.

The State..as King and Lord...

Private property is the heart and soul of freedom and our Republic

Anyone who goes after it ..is an enemy of 'we the people' imo

14 posted on 08/04/2005 10:57:52 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Save the whales. Redeem them for valuable prizes.)
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To: George Smiley
« all seven amendments in the Bill of Rights »

Hahahaha!! Good one.

15 posted on 08/04/2005 11:10:04 AM PDT by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
I think some politicians were frightened by the recent coup in Mauritania.
16 posted on 08/04/2005 11:12:18 AM PDT by Sarajevo
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To: Noumenon
They can all go to hell.

+1000.

I used to (thankfully) live in the PRNJ. I always smiled as I passed the "Where America Begins" sign posted by PA Governor Casey on I-78, on the way to various gun shows in his state. I also smiled on the way back in, knowing that all of the 20- and 30-round mags I had purchased were my way of saying "They can all go to hell." Of course, my way begins with an "F", ends with a "...hole!" and has a "you," in the middle, but its the thought that counts. Now I live in Texas, FA, where one can buy whatever one can afford, and where carrying legally is very easy to do. Screw NJ, and screw Columbus.

17 posted on 08/04/2005 11:28:55 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: Ancesthntr

I felt the same way when I moved out of California. The rotten tomatoes have destroyed almost all the liberty in the entire state.


18 posted on 08/04/2005 2:27:29 PM PDT by 2nd_Amendment_Defender ("It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: Ancesthntr

Probably the best thing would be to download copies of the
form, duplicate it by the thousands, fill it in with fictious names and information and send them in.

Friction takes on a whole new meaning.


19 posted on 08/04/2005 4:15:51 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

I like that one... I'l suggest it to the gun board.


20 posted on 08/04/2005 5:40:25 PM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Member & GUNSNET.NET Moderator)
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To: dljordan
I just won't comply but instead will wrap those evil looking guns in plastic and find a nice, safe place nearby to bury them.

Why bother? If the time ever comes when you have to bury them, then that's the time to use them.

21 posted on 08/04/2005 7:54:35 PM PDT by 10mm
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To: 10mm
Right you are. I've never understood the reasoning of those who propose caching firearms. When it is time to use them, use them. Hope that day never comes but I suspect that it will.
22 posted on 08/06/2005 8:51:40 PM PDT by 11B40 (seven hundred joules at three hundred meters)
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To: 10mm
Right you are. I've never understood the reasoning of those who propose caching firearms. When it is time to use them, use them. Hope that day never comes but I suspect that it will.
23 posted on 08/06/2005 8:52:32 PM PDT by 11B40 (seven hundred joules at three hundred meters)
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To: kiriath_jearim
This is great...they prohibit bringing an "assult weapon" into the city after the cutoff date...make no mistake...this is a prelude to confiscation...The second question I threw in just because it's so damn funny...
   
Question: What if I move to Columbus after the November 9, 2005 deadline, can I bring my assault weapon(s) with me?
   
Answer: No, you will be in violation of City Code 2323.11, "Unlawful possession of an Assault Weapon."  You may however register your weapon(s) during the one time only registration period if you anticipate moving to Columbus after November 9, 2005.
   
Question: What if I'm not sure my weapon is an assault weapon?
   
Answer: Check with a certified gun dealer, or be on the safe side and register your weapon--there is no fee.

 

24 posted on 08/06/2005 9:17:12 PM PDT by in the Arena (CAPT (USAF) James Wayne Herrick, Jr. (Call Sign: FireFly33). MIA Laos 27 Oct 69)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee

pinger...


25 posted on 08/06/2005 9:21:01 PM PDT by in the Arena (CAPT (USAF) James Wayne Herrick, Jr. (Call Sign: FireFly33). MIA Laos 27 Oct 69)
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To: Gefreiter
"Except for lawful police and military purposes, the possession of weapons by individuals is not constitutionally protected." ~ACLU policy statement #47, 1986
26 posted on 08/06/2005 9:30:05 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: in the Arena; adam_az; American in Israel; Ancesthntr; aragorn; archy; Badray; buccaneer81; cc2k; ..

27 posted on 08/06/2005 9:31:49 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: dljordan

I buried a couple back in 99 and when I moved I dug 'em up. I used a 6" pvc sewer pipe and filled it with nitrogen and sealed both ends. I actually buried them cause I was in a high crime area and these were extras. Anyway they were in perfect condition when I dug "em up.


28 posted on 08/06/2005 9:39:34 PM PDT by Mr Cobol (I can hear it now, Hi, I'm Hillary and I'm here to help.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Of course, easy process or not, criminals still won't be registering their guns. Even the assistant city attorney who worked on the language for City Council, Josh Cox, admitted to the Columbus Dispatch in a story a few weeks ago that the ordinance will have no effect on criminals.

IIRC, it's settled law that a criminal does NOT have to register firearms with the authorites, because it would violate his or her Constitutional right against self incrimination. So if a criminal were caught with an unregistered weapon, they could not be charged with that specific crime. However, someone without a criminal record could be charged and convicted.

Mark

29 posted on 08/06/2005 9:42:49 PM PDT by MarkL (It was a shocking cock-up. The mice were furious!)
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To: kiriath_jearim

The beginning of gun registration, the end of freedom. Today it's so-called "assault weapons." Tomorrow it will be handguns, to be followed by hunting rifles. Then it will be the turn of .22 rifles, the kind every boy of my generation got around his 12th birthday. Once all the rifles and pistols are registered, the gun-grabbers will turn their attention to shotguns.

But they won't be satisfied with that. After they have all the modern weapons registered, they will go after historic firearms on the basis of caliber. So if you think your .75-caliber Brown Bess musket is safe, think again. The same goes for your .69-caliber Charleville or your .58-caliber M1861 Springfield.

Bottom line: The gun-grabbers will not be satisfied until we are completely disarmed, down to the last BB gun. As long as they hold any positions of power, either elected or appointed, our gun rights will not be safe.


30 posted on 08/06/2005 9:43:52 PM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: tet68

They did something like that in Canada to great effect.


31 posted on 08/06/2005 9:48:44 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee
Had we only known that it was tis easy to stop the killing ......the city council of columbus is brillant. Criminals are "sure" to follow "this" law..........

Doom on this bunch of jagoff socialist idiots in authority

32 posted on 08/06/2005 10:04:46 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: Squantos

Yeah, pass a law, problem solved.


33 posted on 08/06/2005 10:10:55 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: billnaz
As long as they hold any positions of power, either elected or appointed, our gun rights will not be safe.

As long as they are alive, our gun rights will not be safe. You can take that to the bank.

34 posted on 08/06/2005 10:13:56 PM PDT by Noumenon (Activist judges - out of touch, out of tune, but not out of reach.)
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To: in the Arena
This is great...they prohibit bringing an "assult weapon" into the city after the cutoff date...make no mistake...this is a prelude to confiscation...The second question I threw in just because it's so damn funny...

Any law which requires you to register a firearm is nothing more or less than a prelude to confiscation of the registered guns. The only reason that any politician wants to know who has guns and where they are is that he or she intends to have them either turned in or picked up at some later time when the political climate is right for it.

35 posted on 08/06/2005 10:45:34 PM PDT by epow (A fish that always swims with the current is a dead fish.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

geesh - they can't even spell "muzzle brake" properly.

I'm curious... since a muzzle BRAKE is not a "muzzle break", are rifles which have muzzle brakes exempt from the ban?


36 posted on 08/07/2005 1:06:00 AM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: Noumenon

Socialist never quit, communism is their religion.


37 posted on 08/07/2005 8:15:00 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: varmintxer

I new a guy (ex-ranger Vietnam) that lived in the mountains of East Tennessee and had caches all over the mountains. Strange dude but likable enough.

The tractor dealers carry a product developed by John Deere for use when they shipped equipment overseas. You spray it on and it forms a very nice coating that's impervious to practically everything.


38 posted on 08/07/2005 8:53:20 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Spok
A few years back, the liberals invented something called a 'Saturday night special'. It was a vaguely described firearm that eventually was expanded to include anything with a barrel length under 6" and even all single actions."

I always get a kick out of that one and use it in my arguments with reoporters who write about the 50 cal. "sniper" rifle. I point out to them that the antis can't make up their minds. First it was those cheap, easily-concealed, short-barrelled "Saturday Night Specials" that would end Western Civilization. Of a sudden, it is now expensive, cumbersome, stick-out-like-a-thumb five-foot-long 50 calibers that are the boogeyman.

Then again (I point out), they HAVE made up their minds. ALL guns are eeevil and they dart around like schools of minnows looking for some small segment to ban. The Communists called this the "artichoke principle" - peel away one leaf at a time until nothing remains. Birds of a feather.

39 posted on 08/07/2005 9:56:46 AM PDT by Oatka (Hyphenated-Americans have hyphenated-loyalties -- Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: Flint
So with the stroke of a pen private property can be confiscated.

But, you knew that.

40 posted on 08/07/2005 10:13:47 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: dljordan
That's a good idea but these gun-grabber, UN-loving, socialist termites are like rust, they never sleep.

Rust never sleeps? I love a well-mixed metaphor.

41 posted on 08/07/2005 10:27:37 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: Oatka

It's the Goldilocks of gun control ... this one is too small, that one is too big. This one is too inaccurate, that one is too accurate. These are too cheap, those others are too expensive. The only trouble is, they never tell us which gun is just right - and that's because there isn't any gun which is just right.


42 posted on 08/07/2005 10:30:06 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: dljordan
If it gets that bad where I am, I just won't comply but instead will wrap those evil looking gun *GRABBING POLITICIANS* in plastic and find a nice, safe place nearby to bury them.

There, thats better now.

43 posted on 08/07/2005 10:34:53 AM PDT by metalurgist (Death to the democrats! They're almost the same as communists, they just move a little slower.)
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To: tet68
You beat me to it.

L

44 posted on 08/07/2005 10:50:46 AM PDT by Lurker (" Many are already stating that the decision in Kelo renders the contract null and void." I agree.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Our 2nd and 14th Amendments render some 22,000 gun laws moot except that career politicians in and out of blackrobes can't thrive if we citizens are adequately armed pursuant to our God-given rights.

Politicians who are acting as if our Constitution is some sort of a living cafeteria plan to benefit the police powers of the State are by their own actions enemies of our ratified Constitution millions of us are sworn to defend against.

45 posted on 08/07/2005 11:03:54 AM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: metalurgist

"There, thats better now."

That IS a very attractive idea.


46 posted on 08/07/2005 2:42:25 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: Noumenon; Lurker
It's good to "see" old friends. Hope all is well with you both.

We have been having this type of discussion for how long now?

The "antis" will never learn, and they'll never quit. However, the gun owners had better learn, fast. I've quit trying to warn owners who believe the "Brady Bunch" and their ilk are reasonable people who will stop if they receive "just one more" concession. Ain't gonna happen.

Keep what you have, keep them ready, and keep your mouth shut.

Regards

47 posted on 08/13/2005 10:32:38 AM PDT by Tinman (Yankee by birth, Texan by choice)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Infuriating.
48 posted on 08/13/2005 10:39:59 AM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
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To: Tinman; All
Here is the 'form' to register your weapons with the Columbus City Council.

Wouldn't it be funny if they got a couple of thousand of these from helpful citizens?

Some folks might want to be especially helpful and send in a couple of dozen.

L

49 posted on 08/13/2005 1:10:53 PM PDT by Lurker (" Many are already stating that the decision in Kelo renders the contract null and void." I agree.)
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