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Dylan song 'changed the world'
yahoo news/Reuters ^ | Aug. 5, 2005

Posted on 08/05/2005 8:50:42 AM PDT by nuconvert

Dylan Song 'Changed the World' - Poll

Bob Dylan's song "Like a Rolling Stone" topped a poll on Friday to find the 100 songs, movies, TV shows and books that "changed the world" in the opinion of musicians, actors and industry experts.

Dylan's 1965 single beat Elvis Presley's "Heartbreak Hotel" into second place in the survey for "Uncut" magazine.

Paul McCartney, Noel Gallagher, Robert Downey Jr, Rolling Stone Keith Richards and Lou Reed were among those who gave their views for the poll.

"I absolutely remember where I was when I first heard it. It got me through adolescence," rocker Patti Smith said of the winning song.

Ex-Beatle McCartney picked "Heartbreak Hotel" as his number one choice.

"It's the way (Presley) sings it as if he is singing from the depths of hell," McCartney said. "His phrasing, use of echo, it's all so beautiful. Musically, it's perfect."

The Beatles' song "She Loves You" ranked at number three, followed by the Rolling Stones' "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction."

Stanley Kubrick's "A Clockwork Orange" emerged as the most influential film at number five, followed by "The Godfather" and "The Godfather II" films in sixth place.

"The Prisoner" was the top-ranking TV series at number 10, while Jack Kerouac's novel "On the Road" was the highest-ranking book, in 19th place.

Actor Edward Norton and ex-Beach Boy Brian Wilson also took part in the poll, marking the magazine's 100th issue.


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To: nuconvert

pffft! right......


201 posted on 08/08/2005 2:14:48 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: nuconvert
find the 100 songs, movies, TV shows and books that "changed the world" in the opinion of musicians, actors and industry experts.

Ummmm. OK.

What if my respect for the knowledge and judgement of musicians, actors and industry experts is less than zero?

What possible significance can the opinion of a bunch of dumber than anvils have on my life?

202 posted on 08/08/2005 2:53:47 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Taft in '52
Hooty, Hooty, Hooty, Hooty, Hooty, Hooty, Hooty, Hooty Sapperticker, Howdy, Hooty Sapperticker, Hooty, Hooty, Hooty, Hooty, Hooty, Hooty, Hooty, Hooty Sapperticker, Howdy, Hooty Sapperticker: H-O-O-T-Y, Sap, per, ticker ticker ticker ticker
203 posted on 08/09/2005 2:11:25 PM PDT by T'wit (If any liberals get to Heaven, they'll lecture God on what's wrong with it and reform it all to Hell)
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To: T'wit
Believe it or not, that song, Hooty Sapperticker by Barbara & The Boys, was a hit in Southern California in the spring of 1958.
204 posted on 08/10/2005 6:12:39 AM PDT by Taft in '52
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To: T'wit
You've mentioned a bunch of songs from the '20s and '30s. Do you collect 78s? I'm a big fan of the Comedian Harmonists from that era; do you know the group?

I have well over 1,000 78's and probably about as many 45's. I don't have any by the Comedian Harmonists, but I do have their 1930 recording Wochenend und Sonnenschein (Weekend and Sunshine)--the German version of Happy Days Are Here Again--on CD (I have at least nine versions of Happy Days Are Here Again).

205 posted on 08/10/2005 6:26:14 AM PDT by Taft in '52
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To: Taft in '52
It's nice and rock-y. Demento likes it, which is where I first heard of it. And, it makes quite a showy link :-)

Do we know who Barbara is?

206 posted on 08/10/2005 6:27:55 AM PDT by T'wit (Twit's Law #41: If justice were for sale, you could finally get some.)
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To: Taft in '52
I'll take a flying guess that there may be as many as fifty Comedian Harmonist songs still around -- available on CD, mostly German and Brit. I have a couple of books on them and German news video (interview) with them. They made twelve movies, were very popular, and by the standards of the day, made buckets of money. Sang occasionally in French and even English, with bits of Russian, Italian and who knows what :-) A recent movie about them took liberties with their story but had the sense to use their originals for the songs and not try to reproduce their unique sound.

Three were Jews, three were not. Hitler broke up the group, I forget when, 1934 or 1935. All six survived the war but they never got together again, and never really got friendly again. The last died only a few years ago, in Palm Springs, CA.

The Harmonist were inspired to get together in the first place by an American group of the 1920s, I think called The Revellers -- a sophisticated group described as barbershop with a college degree. I have a couple of things they did on Retro CDs, "My Blue Heaven" and one other I can't think of.

207 posted on 08/10/2005 6:43:22 AM PDT by T'wit (Twit's Law #41: If justice were for sale, you could finally get some.)
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To: T'wit
I was unaware that the Comedian Harmonists were inspired by the Revellers, but, come to think of it, both groups sound very similar.

I have a few Revellers recordings, including a beautiful rendition of Yankee Rose, a hit from 1927, on 78. As a graduate of Whittier High School in Whittier, Calif.--where Richard Nixon was once a student, and First Lady Pat Nixon was once a teacher--I am especially interested in Yankee Rose, because our school's alma mater uses that tune. When I was in the band, and we played the tune at the conclusion of football games, I had to play the tuba part on the baritone horn, because there was no baritone part.

Here's a version of Yankee Rose that was heard at the Republican National Convention in 1928:

Oh, Hoover's name and Hoover's fame
Are known at home, and around the world the same.
Our nation calls, he's the best of all.
He is tried and true. We know he'll do.
And he'll be elected president next fall.

208 posted on 08/10/2005 8:00:35 AM PDT by Taft in '52
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To: Boomer Geezer
Holy smokes! You remember Two Ton Baker?

I'm from Southern California, not Chicago, but during the late 1950's, the Mitchell Marionettes, a troupe of local puppeteers, used the song Petunia in one of their shows. Over the years, I couldn't forget the lyrics, probably because they sounded so weird.

I was pleasantly surprised to see that there is a website devoted to Two Ton Baker.

209 posted on 08/10/2005 8:07:39 AM PDT by Taft in '52
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To: nuconvert

If there is one book, movie, or song that deserves the claim that it changed the world, it's Exodus.

http://www.forward.com/issues/2003/03.06.27/books8.html

http://www.internationalwallofprayer.org/Aliyah-020-Exodus-Lyrics.html


210 posted on 08/10/2005 8:24:43 AM PDT by rwa265 (I was blind, now I see)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; xzins; Clemenza; Lurking in Kansas; don-o; scott says; elbucko; dennisw; ...

Thought I'd ping all the Dylan fans to something I came across on Amazon tonight. It's an upcoming Martin Scorsese film on Dylan to be shown on PBS end of Sept.
Here's a link to the info and a video clip you can watch.........Should be good!..........

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/14104231/104-0342990-8091161


211 posted on 08/26/2005 8:32:13 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: nuconvert; xzins

Thanks for the ping. I'll watch for it in September.

Scorsese is a notoriously angry fallen-away Christian. It will be interesting to see if this factors into his PBS film.

I've seen the 1967 documentary, "Don't Look Back" which covers the same time period. In it, the very young Dylan proudly announced he didn't believe in God. Twenty years later he changed his tune and wrote the music that evidenced his joyful conversion.

I just hope he's still experiencing the fruits of his faith.


212 posted on 08/26/2005 8:55:46 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: cloud8
Well you guys can sit home and watch tv, while Dean Moriarty and I tear through the night in the '48 Hudson :-)

Yes, into the American night. You might stop by Birdland, they've booked old God Shearing for the weekend...

213 posted on 08/26/2005 9:04:25 PM PDT by TChad
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To: nuconvert; Dr. Eckleburg

Thanks, nuconvert.

I'll watch. Reading the write-up, it appears to me that the Dylan that comes across will be incomplete without his overtly Christian era, but I doubt that the media knows exactly what to do with that.

:>)


214 posted on 08/27/2005 3:27:37 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: nuconvert
Thanks for the ping. I'm on Dylan.com mailing list and here is the special deal they are offering on merchandise for dvd ect......
http://bobdylan.com/ndh.html
215 posted on 08/27/2005 7:19:58 AM PDT by scott says (NFL PING LIST-FReepmail ME to get on or off)
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To: scott says

Thanks for the info


216 posted on 08/27/2005 7:26:32 AM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: nuconvert
You reminded me that I needed to pre-order the stuff..which I just did. Watched preview--Bob-" I was born a long way from where I'm supposed to be, so now I'm just going home."
DVD should be awesome. I'm sure when it comes out and someone posts an article about it, the sparks will fly around here. People are just so locked into their pre conceived notions, facts and reality just do not apply...Bob is a 60's anti war protester, blah,blah,blah....
217 posted on 08/27/2005 8:07:00 AM PDT by scott says (NFL PING LIST-FReepmail ME to get on or off)
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To: Borges
There's a certain arrogance in these polls as they don't give a time period. At least admit you're basically talking about songs in English from the 50 years or so.

I imagine most of those responding to this poll are unaware there was music before that.

218 posted on 08/27/2005 8:11:24 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: nuconvert

In what way did any of these songs change the world?


219 posted on 08/27/2005 8:12:14 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: nuconvert

Don't know about 'changing the world', but it is one of my favorite songs! Don't know why, really. I like the electric organ parts of it.


220 posted on 08/27/2005 8:19:50 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: dead
As Truman Capote said of Kerouac – “That’s not writing. That’s typing.”

MEEEOOOOWWW!

221 posted on 08/27/2005 8:33:02 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: nuconvert

The doctor who discovered penicillin changed the world. The doctor who discovered the polio vaccine changed the world. The guys who won WWII changed the world. Bob Dylan is just a musician and until the 20th century performers were considered to be only slightly more respectable than prostitutes. Perhaps we should go back to that.


222 posted on 08/27/2005 8:35:25 AM PDT by thathamiltonwoman
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To: xzins; nuconvert
Reading the write-up, it appears to me that the Dylan that comes across will be incomplete without his overtly Christian era, but I doubt that the media knows exactly what to do with that.

They'll probably do what they've always done -- ignore it or deny it.

Hopefully "Chronicles II" will testify to his Christian faith.

223 posted on 08/27/2005 11:52:54 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: nuconvert
Thanks. There is not another person in the world that makes folks go, "Hmmm"
224 posted on 08/27/2005 4:17:09 PM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: nuconvert
Thanks for the ping.

Is there a Dylan ping list? Anyone...

225 posted on 08/29/2005 7:39:49 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here… move on.)
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To: Lurking in Kansas; nuconvert
I'll help with a Dylan ping list...that would be great! I have about 700 live Dylan cds...just got 30 new shows from 2005, most excellent audience cds...some dvds and a couple of A+ soundboards. Check out latest email from bobdylan.com, audio track samples.
http://www.sonymusicstore.com/store/catalog/MerchandiseDetails.jsp?selectionId=93937&sms=ast-bobdylan
226 posted on 08/29/2005 3:03:21 PM PDT by scott says (NFL PING LIST-FReepmail ME to get on or off)
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To: scott says

"Dylan is a genius who had a profound influence on my 1960s generation in the US, but his current stratospheric elevation smacks of the faddish. " Like a Rolling Stone" is an exhilaratingly propulsive song with a wicked rap of bratty put-downs. I have found it personally inspiring in my war on political correctness in academe. But artistically, the song suffers from its compulsive sneering - an adolescent tic.

A truly great song has expansiveness, vision, and emotional range. On those grounds, the Rolling Stones' "Sympathy for the Devil" or " Gimme Shelter" would rank far beyond "Like a Rolling Stone". In my course, "Art of Song Lyrics", which I am teaching this semester at the University of the Arts, we will be studying a much greater song by Dylan, "Desolation Row", so long and complex that it always takes several class days to do justice to. "

http://comment.independent.co.uk/commentators/article309925.ece


227 posted on 09/03/2005 8:12:07 AM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: nuconvert
Interesting...that broad ,Paglia, is kind of cool, but also kind of annoying. I think I need to wait till the Gulf disaster kind of settles down, before I post any Dylan stories.Everybody is fixxated on that, and I'll probably get attacked for posting such stuff.
228 posted on 09/03/2005 12:01:24 PM PDT by scott says
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