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War Plans Drafted To Counter Terror Attacks in U.S.
The Washington Post ^ | Monday, August 8, 2005 | Bradley Graham

Posted on 08/07/2005 10:09:16 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

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1 posted on 08/07/2005 10:09:17 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
The classified plans, developed here at Northern Command headquarters, outline a variety of possible roles for quick-reaction forces estimated at as many as 3,000 ground troops per attack, a number that could easily grow depending on the extent of the damage and the abilities of civilian response teams.

But then how would they react to a dirty bomb?

2 posted on 08/07/2005 10:14:30 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

It's sad to say, but with our current "open borders" policy, our enemy already has entered the US and await their tasking. My best guess it that it will be a simultaneous attack on multiple cities and targets. My best guess is that it will be closer to the 06 election in hopes that they can sway the electorate like they did in Spain. Of course, I want to be wrong in my prediction, but.........


3 posted on 08/07/2005 10:16:36 PM PDT by conshack ((Our porous southern border WILL result in another terrorist attack))
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To: MinorityRepublican

not good enough, I want to hear about a list of countries that support muslim fanatics that will be held responsible (Syria,Iran)


4 posted on 08/07/2005 10:17:44 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
a list of countries that support muslim fanatics that will be held responsible (Syria,Iran)

And the third most supportive nation -- Saudi Arabia.
5 posted on 08/07/2005 10:19:28 PM PDT by TomGuy
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6 posted on 08/07/2005 10:20:09 PM PDT by konaice
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To: MinorityRepublican

So who leaked the "classified plans"?


7 posted on 08/07/2005 10:21:43 PM PDT by OneTime
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To: OneTime
So who leaked the "classified plans"?

Karl Rove.

8 posted on 08/07/2005 10:22:51 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

A key word you seem to be ignoring is "classified".
How would you want them to react? Why do YOU want to know classified plans?
Is this just more second-guessing of our President and our administration by self-appointed experts seeking to "help" them do their jobs better?
So you want to know war plans in a time of war?
Why?


9 posted on 08/07/2005 10:23:45 PM PDT by CBart95
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To: MinorityRepublican

If there is a major attack or series of attacks on this country by the islamoscumsheetheads you can bet that I will not be the only one with one shot=one kill on anything with a turban on top of it plan.


10 posted on 08/07/2005 10:24:36 PM PDT by ChefKeith (If Diplomacy worked, then we would be sitting here talking.)
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To: CBart95

bump


11 posted on 08/07/2005 10:29:09 PM PDT by GOPJ (A person who will lie for you, will lie against you.)
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To: ChefKeith
you can bet that I will not be the only one with one shot=one kill on anything with a turban on top of it plan.

That is exactly the purpose of the "low end," relatively modest crowd-control missions . Regrettably, those aren't aimed at the terrorists; they are aimed at the uprising and unrest from the citizenry.
12 posted on 08/07/2005 10:29:53 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: CBart95

Maybe Pentagon released this on purpose to fool our enemies. Hard to say.


13 posted on 08/07/2005 10:30:10 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

I hope it involves lots of bombs.


14 posted on 08/07/2005 10:31:47 PM PDT by pcottraux
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To: MinorityRepublican
The U.S. military has devised its first-ever war plans for guarding against and responding to terrorist attacks in the United States

Didn't they do that on Sept 11 and shortly after? I would call things like the Combat Air Patrols and new rules of engagement for hijacked planes the "first-ever" war plans to deal with terror attacks in the US.

Journalists, sloppy use of language, bad memory, or both?

15 posted on 08/07/2005 10:44:59 PM PDT by GeorgiaYankee
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To: MinorityRepublican

"The classified plans, ***developed here at*** Northern Command headquarters"

Was this written by some AT NorCom??!!


16 posted on 08/07/2005 10:48:25 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: OneTime

USNORTHCOM of course.


17 posted on 08/07/2005 10:51:03 PM PDT by endthematrix ("an ominous vacancy"...I mean, JOHN ROBERTS now fills this space!)
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To: CBart95

It's to make the public feel secure in knowing the government has plans in place.


18 posted on 08/07/2005 10:53:10 PM PDT by endthematrix ("an ominous vacancy"...I mean, JOHN ROBERTS now fills this space!)
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To: ChefKeith

>>
If there is a major attack or series of attacks on this country by the islamoscumsheetheads you can bet that I will not be the only one with one shot=one kill on anything with a turban on top of it plan.
<<

Just don't mess up and nail any Sikhs -- they are good guys.


19 posted on 08/07/2005 10:58:43 PM PDT by noblejones
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To: endthematrix

And has diminishing returns. Ex:

US airliner is shot down over Kentucky by terrorists using missiles.
Government claims aircraft downed due to windshear in effort to sidestep effects of terror on public (primary goal of the terrorists).

Its what I would do, but one problem: when you go to ask congress for $$ to counter missile attacks, no one will be listening, especially the public, because they've been led to believe the threat is low.


20 posted on 08/07/2005 11:02:09 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: noblejones; ChefKeith
Just don't mess up and nail any Sikhs -- they are good guys.

Agreed. They are good Americans.

21 posted on 08/07/2005 11:09:41 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Fenris6

I hear ya, great point.


22 posted on 08/07/2005 11:11:03 PM PDT by endthematrix ("an ominous vacancy"...I mean, JOHN ROBERTS now fills this space!)
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To: MinorityRepublican
re:But then how would they react to a dirty bomb?
 
Well, first off all white males would be rounded up and place in holding pens so as not to alarm our muslim population. Tancredo, Ann Coulter and others would be slo be rounded up.
Bush would give a 4 hour speech extolling the virtues of islam, congress would pass a guestworker bill and criminalize hates speech (yeah they've already done this, but this time boy the would really really really criminalize it).
then like a coiled spring, some 4 months after the attack the feds would leap into action and retaliate... by raiding some poor 6th generation american christans ranch in texas, montana or oregon.
23 posted on 08/07/2005 11:20:03 PM PDT by tomakaze (Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.)
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To: endthematrix
Yea... while the government higher ups have highly protected bunkers to hide in, us civilians have to fend for ourselves.
24 posted on 08/07/2005 11:24:17 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

What, you don't have a highly protected bunker?


25 posted on 08/07/2005 11:28:59 PM PDT by endthematrix ("an ominous vacancy"...I mean, JOHN ROBERTS now fills this space!)
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To: endthematrix

If you can call a cardboard box a highly protected bunker, well then ? yes, I do have one, but, when rain gets on it, it just falls apart.


26 posted on 08/07/2005 11:46:54 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
As long as you have duct tape and clear plastic sheeting, you're fine.
27 posted on 08/07/2005 11:54:44 PM PDT by endthematrix ("an ominous vacancy"...I mean, JOHN ROBERTS now fills this space!)
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To: tomakaze
Well, first off all white males would be rounded up and place in holding pens so as not to alarm our muslim population. Tancredo, Ann Coulter and others would be slo be rounded up.
Bush would give a 4 hour speech extolling the virtues of islam, congress would pass a guestworker bill and criminalize hates speech (yeah they've already done this, but this time boy the would really really really criminalize it).
then like a coiled spring, some 4 months after the attack the feds would leap into action and retaliate... by raiding some poor 6th generation american christans ranch in texas, montana or oregon.

This has got to be one of the most frighteningly irrational and warped posts I've ever read on FR. I can't imagine how you must loathe waking up each day in the terrible scary world you perceive. If this isn't sarcasm, I pity you.

28 posted on 08/07/2005 11:54:57 PM PDT by Once-Ler (16 months til Byrd is ousted from office, and Kennedy ain't getin younger)
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To: Once-Ler
A little from Column A, A little from Column B.
I'll take your pity if it's redeemable for Beer.
29 posted on 08/08/2005 12:12:52 AM PDT by tomakaze (Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.)
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"Well, first off all white males would be rounded up and place in holding pens so as not to alarm our muslim population."

Admit it, you failed high school math; twice.

1939-1945: Germany rounds up 10 million (6 million subsequently murdered) unarmed "undesireables." Over 6 years, hundreds of thousands of Germans were tasked for this project...consuming enormous resources, time, money, and effort.

2005: The U.S. has over 100 Million White Males, more than 60 million of whom are armed (oh, and there are another 25 million non-White or non-male Americans who are likewise armed).

Compare logistics. Contrast.

Anyone who thinks that rounding up the latter is feasible needs to retake high school math...again.

30 posted on 08/08/2005 12:17:48 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: endthematrix

fweeeeeeeeewwwwww .... for a minute there, I was getting worried.


31 posted on 08/08/2005 12:18:44 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Southack
3 times, thank you very much.
do i get a consolation beer?
32 posted on 08/08/2005 1:13:01 AM PDT by tomakaze (Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.)
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To: Southack

S-A-R-C-A-S-M


33 posted on 08/08/2005 3:02:11 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: endthematrix

As long as you have duct tape and clear plastic sheeting, you're fine.

Don't forget the Nyquil and the Coconut oil!


34 posted on 08/08/2005 3:06:33 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: conshack
Yes, there are a number of criminals and gang members who have sneaked in--but ICE started rounding up the members of MS-13 in the last two weeks, and they're the ones who are at highest risk for committing terrorist activities.
35 posted on 08/08/2005 3:59:34 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (Proudly confusing editors and readers since 1981!)
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To: CBart95

How would our enemies benefit from from knowing these plans? They are only secret because Americans would object to martial law.

Do you think all government actions are benevolent?


36 posted on 08/08/2005 5:58:17 AM PDT by Haru Hara Haruko
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Haru: You ask questions with your answers embedded in them.
This is considered a form of rudeness in our society.
The tone presupposes that you disrespect the intelligence of the person you are addressing.
Now we would'nt want that to happen. Would we Haru-doggie?


37 posted on 08/08/2005 6:04:11 AM PDT by CBart95
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To: MinorityRepublican
'Dual-Use' Approach

Pentagon authorities have rejected the idea of creating large standing units dedicated to homeland missions. Instead, they favor a "dual-use" approach, drawing on a common pool of troops trained both for homeland and overseas assignments.

"For the Pentagon to acknowledge that it would have to respond to catastrophic attack and needs a plan was a big step," said James Carafano, who follows homeland security issues for the Heritage Foundation, a conservative Washington think tank.

Hmmm wonder whose idea it was to 'create large standing Armies for homeland defense?...and under whose ultimate control they would be?

Glad the 'Puzzle Palace' put the kabosh on that at least for now

Yep ..we leave the doors wide open for all the terrorists in the world of every stripe to enter and diffuse throughout our nation..

Then we create big bureaucracies with huge tax sucking budgets to deal with them and give them all the 'laws' they will need....

We allow the terrorist access to our heartland..give them the opportunity to set up their attacks just the way they want 'em...

Then we will attact them after they attack us here at home?

Thats a humdinger of plan alright

General Tommy Franks said ,as he went out the door,..that we were "One terror attack away from suspending the Constituion"

But what heck at least we will be safe...

imo

38 posted on 08/08/2005 7:20:15 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Save the whales. Redeem them for valuable prizes.)
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To: Haru Hara Haruko

I've got mixed feelings about martial law in the event of a single or multiple horrific attacks. It could be the only means of order amid the panic, lawlessness, etc. Imagine your own little world in the midst of this. Imagine the local gangs. Imagine the enemy already within. Your local LE would be waaaay overburdened. That said, NO, I don't like the idea of martial law at all.
Anyway, I thought from the thread title that this was going to be about who we nuked first. :o)


39 posted on 08/08/2005 7:29:51 AM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: tomakaze

Funny!

Great post!


40 posted on 08/08/2005 8:01:00 AM PDT by Gunrunner2
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>>General Tommy Franks said ,as he went out the door,..that we were "One terror attack away from suspending the Constituion" <<

I'd really like to read that interview or report or article where he said that.

You have a source?
41 posted on 08/08/2005 8:02:51 AM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: MinorityRepublican

These don't exactly sound to me like "war plans", they sound a lot more like martial-law plans.


42 posted on 08/08/2005 8:41:02 AM PDT by jpl
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This has got to be one of the most frighteningly irrational and warped posts I've ever read on FR. I can't imagine how you must loathe waking up each day in the terrible scary world you perceive. If this isn't sarcasm, I pity you. 28 posted on 08/08/2005 2:54:57 AM EDT by Once-Ler (

No, for that do a search for any of bayourod's posts.

43 posted on 08/08/2005 8:55:55 AM PDT by millefleur (No KING but Jesus !)
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To: millefleur

bump


44 posted on 08/08/2005 9:08:22 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: TomGuy

Cant touch S. arabia.


45 posted on 08/08/2005 9:22:59 AM PDT by Alex Marko
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To: Gunrunner2
He said it as a warning, not advocating it. It was in an interview in Cigar Aficionado.
46 posted on 08/08/2005 10:38:05 AM PDT by Haru Hara Haruko
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To: ChefKeith

>>I will not be the only one with one shot=one kill on anything with a turban on top of it plan.


Yup, morons will like you will gun down Sikhs! LOL!


47 posted on 08/08/2005 10:40:34 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Haru Hara Haruko
Thanks.

Issue number?

Date?

Knowing Franks, I find the comment interesting. He knows we are nowhere near that allegation. . .an allegation (warning) that reads better on a DNC web-site than anything else.

I would like to read/know the context.
48 posted on 08/08/2005 11:01:00 AM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: Fenris6

"no one will be listening, especially the public, because they've been led to believe the threat is low. "

Better, they have been LIED to and made to believe the threat is low.

I no longer trust or respect this government. It is self serving and not interested in the public welfare. It is not interested in the safety of it's citizens who live within it's borders and it is definately not interested in upholding and defending the Constitution to which it is under.

It has in effect become the enemy of my people and my family. Until we get people in Washington DC that put Americans FIRST, this Government will remain my enemy.


49 posted on 08/08/2005 11:08:35 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: jpl
These don't exactly sound to me like "war plans", they sound a lot more like martial-law plans.

I know what you are saying. That reminds me of a movie that Bruce Willis played in before 9/11 actually happened in real life. The Siege was about military response to terrorist attacks that took place in the United States. FYI, we were much more composed folks in real life than the Americans were characeterized in the movie.

50 posted on 08/08/2005 12:55:15 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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