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Military Burial Law to Be Re-Evaluated
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/10/AR2005081001365.html ^

Posted on 08/10/2005 4:44:19 PM PDT by lunarbicep

WASHINGTON -- A Senate committee plans to review rules that govern who can _ and cannot _ be laid to rest in national cemeteries after the ashes of a convicted murderer were placed in Arlington National Cemetery.

The Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee will take up the issue in September when Congress returns from its recess, its chairman, Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho, said Wednesday.

Russell Wayne Wagner, 52, a Vietnam War veteran, died Feb. 7 of a heroin overdose in prison. In 2002, he was convicted of the Valentine's Day 1994 murders of Daniel Davis, 84, and Wilda Davis, 80, and was sentenced to two consecutive life terms. The victims were found bound and stabbed in their home in Hagerstown, Md.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 109th; arlingtoncemetery; veterans

1 posted on 08/10/2005 4:44:19 PM PDT by lunarbicep
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To: lunarbicep

The right to burial in Arlington is based on honorable military service, not on your life after the military. Though I don't agree with this guys actions(murder), he still earned the right to burial there.


2 posted on 08/10/2005 5:03:08 PM PDT by conshack ((Cindy Sheehan needs some serious psychiatric help))
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To: conshack

in theory, couldn't Lee Harvey Oswald have been buried at Arlington too?

yikes!


3 posted on 08/10/2005 5:08:02 PM PDT by Will_Zurmacht
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To: Will_Zurmacht

never mind, google informed me that he was changed to dishonorable post his defection to USSR...

going to commie land tends to do that


4 posted on 08/10/2005 5:10:52 PM PDT by Will_Zurmacht
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To: conshack

agree...


5 posted on 08/10/2005 5:12:04 PM PDT by dakine
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To: conshack

I agree with you wholeheartedly. In theory, Teddy Kennedy, who never served as far as I know [too busy cheating on Spanish tests]can be buried at Arlington as a member of Congress-and he's got one dead woman, and accesory to the rape of another under his ever burgeoning belt.


6 posted on 08/10/2005 5:13:48 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: PzLdr

The swimmer served in the Army, briefly, after being expelled from Harvard.


7 posted on 08/10/2005 5:27:09 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: lunarbicep
Seems like the McVeigh Act already settled the matter.

"Congress passed a law in 1997 prohibiting people convicted of federal or state capital crimes and sentenced to death or life imprisonment without parole from being interred at Arlington and other military cemeteries. Wagner would have become eligible in 2017 for a review that could have led to parole, according to the Maryland Division of Corrections.

The law was aimed in part at preventing convicted Army veteran Timothy McVeigh, who carried out the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, from being buried in Arlington."

8 posted on 08/10/2005 5:28:26 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Will_Zurmacht; conshack; dakine
I'm sure an exception can be made for murderers. Our military stresses honor and valor. Murdering two people is despicable. Should those who received dishonorable Discharges be buried in national military cemeteries because at one time, they served their country. The Military certainly doesn't think so and doesn't allow it. I don't care if at one time in this guys life, he did something decent. He's a criminal.
9 posted on 08/10/2005 5:49:42 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell
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To: lunarbicep

As I understand the protocals, Arlington is not a guaranteed burial plot, regardless of service record. By the by, your wapo link took me to an ACLU ad/spam.


10 posted on 08/10/2005 5:49:53 PM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: PzLdr

I'd have to ask for an exception for Chapi-Teddy to not be buried there. Besides, I bet Chapi-Teddy would want to be buried in Kentucky, next to one of the distilleries.


11 posted on 08/10/2005 5:51:10 PM PDT by conshack ((Cindy Sheehan needs some serious psychiatric help))
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Times/things change in a person's life (not condoning); he served, received honorable...cased closed....


12 posted on 08/10/2005 5:53:58 PM PDT by dakine
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To: LauraleeBraswell

The right to be buried there is earned by doing honorable military service. In my case, I did that for 20 years. If I were to commit a capitol crime, that doesn't make my 20 years of service any less honorable. By the way, I have no plans to do anything of the sort.


13 posted on 08/10/2005 5:56:06 PM PDT by conshack ((Cindy Sheehan needs some serious psychiatric help))
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To: conshack
Ted probably WILL be buried in Arlington, along side John & Bobby. He rode their coattails all through life.... why not on into death?
14 posted on 08/10/2005 6:03:23 PM PDT by lunarbicep (Gratitude is not only the greatest of virtues, but the parent of all the others - Churchill)
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To: conshack; dakine
We bury individuals in that cemetery to honor them. THEM. If military service was an over and done thing, we wouldn't have a special place to honor them AFTER they died. They would be buried in a normal cemetery like everyone else. Clearly, we're saying, your life meant something good to this country.


Because to fight for you country, is to fight for your people. To murder two people completely negates everything our military stands for.
15 posted on 08/10/2005 6:08:48 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell
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To: conshack


It doesn't make your service less honorable, but it does make you DIShonorable and not worthy.


16 posted on 08/10/2005 6:11:02 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell
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To: dakine

You're wrong.


17 posted on 08/10/2005 6:18:40 PM PDT by ShadowDancer (As for the types of comments I make,sometimes I just, By God,get carried away with my own eloquence.)
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To: ShadowDancer

Wouldn't be the first time....

I do stand by what I typed....


18 posted on 08/10/2005 6:21:23 PM PDT by dakine
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To: dakine
Military service doesn't trump what you do in civilian life. It isn't a free pass. He may have served his country well but he negated all of it when he killed two people just because. In lieu of that, burying him there is a slap in the face to all the men like my father in law, and yourself, that put their lives on the line and never use that as an excuse to be amoral.

My father in law is buried in a local cemetery. He fought in the Battle of the Bulge. He then lived a decent, moral life even when I know for sure he would have liked to cut loose and done otherwise.

That man should not be buried there. Period.

19 posted on 08/10/2005 6:41:55 PM PDT by ShadowDancer (As for the types of comments I make,sometimes I just, By God,get carried away with my own eloquence.)
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To: PzLdr

"Teddy Kennedy, who never served as far as I know [too busy cheating on Spanish tests]can be buried at Arlington as a member of Congress."

Thank you for making my gag reflex kick in


20 posted on 08/10/2005 6:43:51 PM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: ShadowDancer

Well stated...

"was honorably discharged" ...This is the statement from the article that says he earned the right...


21 posted on 08/10/2005 6:48:20 PM PDT by dakine
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To: lunarbicep

A review is in order.


22 posted on 08/10/2005 6:51:13 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Ciexyz

Zell Miller's in charge now, I'm sure the right thing will be done


23 posted on 08/10/2005 6:54:36 PM PDT by lunarbicep (Gratitude is not only the greatest of virtues, but the parent of all the others - Churchill)
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