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Could be that dad is not real father, report shows (Is that kid really yours?)
reuters via Yahoo News ^ | Aug 11, 2005 | SOURCE: Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health, August 2005.

Posted on 08/11/2005 12:40:55 PM PDT by summer

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Perhaps one out of every 25 dads could unknowingly be raising another man's child, a finding that has huge health and social implications, according to report released Wednesday.

Exposing so-called paternal discrepancy -- when a child is identified as being biologically fathered by someone other than the man who believes he is the father -- could lead to family violence and the breakup of many families. On the other hand, leaving paternal discrepancy hidden means having the wrong genetic information, which could have health consequences.

A UK-based research team reviewed scientific research dealing with paternity published between 1950 and 2004 and reports that rates of paternal discrepancy range from less than 1 percent to as much as 30 percent.

The investigation also showed that becoming pregnant at a younger age, low socioeconomic status, and being in a long-term relationship rather than being married seem to be linked to greater likelihood of paternal discrepancy.

It is generally believed that rates of paternal discrepancy are less than 10 percent. A paternal discrepancy rate of 4 percent means that one in 25 families could be affected.

However, soaring rates of paternity testing in North America and Europe means more cases of paternal discrepancy will be identified in the years ahead, Professor Mark A. Bellis, from the Center for Public Health at the Liverpool John Moores University, and colleagues point out in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health.

In the United States, for example, rates of paternity testing more than doubled between 1991 and 2001. The increasing use of genetic testing for diagnosis and treatment of disease as well as in judicial procedures will also yield more opportunities to uncover cases where a father, unbeknownst to him, is not the biological parent.

"Modern genetic techniques continue to open a Pandora's box on hitherto hidden aspects of human sexual behavior," the investigators write.

Exposing such situations will inevitably affect not only deceived dads but also their family and potentially the biological father. Leaving paternal discrepancy undiagnosed, on the other hand, leaves those affected with incorrect genetic information that could prove harmful.

What's urgently needed, the authors say, is guidance on how and when paternal discrepancy should be exposed.

At present, most cases that are inadvertently identified are ignored by whoever uncovers the situation.

"However, in a society where services and life decisions are increasingly influenced by genetics, our approach to paternal discrepancy cannot be simply to ignore this difficult issue but must be informed by what best protects the health of those affected," Bellis and colleagues argue.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: dads; families; genes; kids; oops; paternity
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To: konaice
>>Most people know who their relatives are, but not these "mis-fatherd" children<<

That is my point exactly. These "mis-fatherd" children will not know who their sibs/fathers are and therefore the likelihood that they will have children together is increased.

The US census bureau posted the 22% figure as those that ever permanently move more than 25 miles from their birth place.

61 posted on 08/11/2005 1:05:39 PM PDT by devane617
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To: thoughtomator

"I know that my dad is real... he's a lazy bastard, I'm a lazy bastard, couldn't be mere coincidence."

We're brothers?!


62 posted on 08/11/2005 1:07:34 PM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs
Anyone know the "out of wedlock" birth rate in the Afircan-American community?
Nationwide, 70%. In some communities, 90%.

This of course, is only incidentally related to the story at hand.

Out of wedlock does not necessarily indicate that some poor fool is hocking his car to pay for what he thinks is his child.

It more likely just means that another unwed mother is drawing wellfare for another fatherless kid.

63 posted on 08/11/2005 1:08:21 PM PDT by konaice
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To: tallhappy

It's hard when all the social/ gov't policies, the MSM and the "new morality" are saying exactly the opposite of what we try to model at home. They undermine good parenting at every turn.

At least our kids have the benefit of parents and values. It's not a guarantee, but good insurance. All we can do is pray for the rest.


64 posted on 08/11/2005 1:08:22 PM PDT by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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To: devane617

In Trinidad there was a family
With much confusion as you will see
It was a mama and a papa, and a boy who was grown
Who wanted to marry and have a wife of his own

He found a young girl, that suited him nice
And went to his papa to ask his advice
His papa said son, I have to say no
This girl is your sister but your mama don't know

Woe, is me, shame and scandal in the family
Woe, is me, shame and scandal in the family

A week went by and the summer came 'round
And soon the best cook in the island he found
He went to his papa to name the date
But papa shook his head and to him he said
You can't marry this girl, I have to say no
This girl is your sister but your mama don't know

Woe, is me, shame and scandal in the family
Woe, is me, shame and scandal in the family

He went to his mama and covered his head
And told his mama what his papa had said
His mama she laughed, she said go, man, go
Your daddy ain't your daddy, but your daddy don't know

Woe, is me, shame and scandal in the family
Woe, is me, shame and scandal in the family


65 posted on 08/11/2005 1:08:43 PM PDT by Mylo ("Those without a sword should sell their cloak and buy one" Jesus of Nazareth)
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To: thoughtomator
I know that my dad is real... he's a lazy bastard, I'm a lazy bastard, couldn't be mere coincidence.

ROTFLMAO!!!!

On second thought, I kind of resemble that remark.

66 posted on 08/11/2005 1:09:22 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (The only NOC list containing the name of Valerie Plame was stolen by Ethan Hunt.)
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To: devane617
I figure the childern in the next generation will have significant health issues relating to this problem because of sib's etc having childern.

Try pointing that out to the liberal parasites -- sociologists and psychologists -- whose livelihood depends upon a paycheck from taxpayers for services that no sane person would fund.

67 posted on 08/11/2005 1:09:41 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
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To: timsbella
You forgot one the precursor - is he good enough to bring home to my parents?

Good point. My father-in-law sat me down and went over the rules when I went to pick her up for our first date. One of them was, "Sex before marriage will get you killed. I mean it....I will literally kill you."

It was awkward for a first date, but at least we all knew what was expected.
68 posted on 08/11/2005 1:10:24 PM PDT by Jaysun (Democrats: We must become more effective at fooling people.)
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To: Mylo

You owe me a new keyboard!!! Thanks for the laugh!!!


69 posted on 08/11/2005 1:11:43 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (The only NOC list containing the name of Valerie Plame was stolen by Ethan Hunt.)
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To: summer

This is hardly news. Various studies showing the same thing have been publicized for the past several years. It was no surprise to me the first time, and still isn't.

Certain members of my family know that my grandmother's sister was really her half-sister. The more naive members of the family (including the woman's daughter) have no idea. It had been speculated for years, due to her striking resemblance to a male friend of her mother's, and certainly her official "father" knew pretty early on. She obviously knew herself, since she confirmed it to my father on her deathbed, but I have no idea how old she was when she found out. At any rate, it certainly didn't cause the family to disintegrate.


70 posted on 08/11/2005 1:15:38 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: bigfootbob

...At the birth of their third child it became obvious she had some 'splainin' to do....

LOL. There was an old SNL skit that was pretty funny. Went something like this.




Man on his deathbed, surrounded by his wife and 6 children. One of the children is really goofy looking..

Man. "Dear, I just have to ask you. I've never thought (goofy child) was really my son".

Wife. "You want the truth"?

Man. "Yes".

Wife. "He is, the rest of em ain't".


71 posted on 08/11/2005 1:15:51 PM PDT by planekT
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To: Jaysun
Short of rape, takes one to allow sexual access. The girls need raise their standards.

The boys need to raise their standards too. It's not just about the women.

You are correct in that it only takes one to allow sexual access. However, just because I have access doesn't mean I'm gong to use it. The males in these relationships have just as much responsibility to control their behavior as the women do.

72 posted on 08/11/2005 1:16:14 PM PDT by Terabitten (Life, liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: SittinYonder
Women are evil. I've never heard of a husband lying to his wife about a child's maternity.

Reminds me of what was probably the only funny comedy line that Ellen Degenerate ever said: "I'm a single woman, no kids. At least... none that I... know about".

73 posted on 08/11/2005 1:24:30 PM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: Terabitten
The boys need to raise their standards too. It's not just about the women.

You are correct in that it only takes one to allow sexual access. However, just because I have access doesn't mean I'm gong to use it. The males in these relationships have just as much responsibility to control their behavior as the women do.


Yes, but the impact would be much greater if standards were implemented by the girls. The girls have an easier time controlling their sexual urges at that age than Captain Hard-On does.

Besides, if you think about it, the standard has always been set by the women. Men have always been happy to do whatever is required - right now it's disgustingly little.
74 posted on 08/11/2005 1:24:57 PM PDT by Jaysun (Democrats: We must become more effective at fooling people.)
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To: Night Hides Not
You should hear it sung. Very funny.

It also shows the downside to the "tomcat" male who wants to be profligate with his seed; chances are that while he is out messing around creating sons and daughters who will never know him, his own children will also not be his own (genetically).

Humans are mostly monogamous in pair bonds. The male's deviate from this norm by trying to be a "tomcat"; but with mixed results (as the song attests). For myself, I would rather raise one son or daughter with my culture, beliefs and values that would be my friend in life WITHOUT any of my genetics; than to have ten sons and ten daughters who who are mine genetically but don't know me from Adam and would want to kick my butt if they knew who I was. The females deviate from monogamous pair bonds with "crypto paternity"; where they rope a moderately successful male who WILL help them raise a child, while actually securing the "best" DNA for their child by siring it with a highly successful male who would probably NOT help them raise the child (probably has some of his own already).
75 posted on 08/11/2005 1:27:36 PM PDT by Mylo ("Those without a sword should sell their cloak and buy one" Jesus of Nazareth)
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To: Mylo
"...The females deviate from monogamous pair bonds with "crypto paternity"; where they rope a moderately successful male who WILL help them raise a child, while actually securing the "best" DNA for their child by siring it with a highly successful male who would probably NOT help them raise the child (probably has some of his own already)...."

That statement is just plain weird!

76 posted on 08/11/2005 1:31:07 PM PDT by devane617
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To: oldfarmer

From Benny Hill - He: "Goodnight, mother of two"; She: "Goodnight, father of one"


77 posted on 08/11/2005 1:32:39 PM PDT by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the "No Child/Left/Behind" Party)
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To: tallhappy
Real father is man who raises the children regardless of the genetics.

That is so true. It's also not the kid's fault for the parent's indiscretions.

78 posted on 08/11/2005 1:41:38 PM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: CobaltBlue

Fortunately, I have no doubt. Both my daughter and son are dead ringers for me, and that's scary!


79 posted on 08/11/2005 1:47:27 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Jaysun
Disgraceful. Whores.

Also disgraceful, "Johns".

For every whore, there is AT LEAST one male customer.

Same for every slut, who is too stupid to even charge...or take a pill.

80 posted on 08/11/2005 1:51:21 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Marching Morons are coming...and they're breeding more Democrats beyond all reason!)
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