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CBS News: Hillary lucks out.
CBS News ^ | 8/10/05 | John Nichols

Posted on 08/11/2005 9:17:22 PM PDT by nycfree

Hillary Lucks Out August 10, 2005

This column was written by John Nichols.

New York Senator Hillary Clinton has always looked like a good bet to win re-election in 2006 -- probably by a margin wide enough to jumpstart the 2008 presidential campaign that many Democrats want the former First Lady to make.

With the decision of Westchester County District Attorney Jeanine Pirro to seek the Republican nomination to challenge her, however, Clinton's fortunes have taken a dramatic turn for the better.

Pirro, a hyper-ambitious publicity hound who frequently turns up on the Fox News Channel as a "legal affairs" commentator, had been weighing races for governor, attorney general or Clinton's Senate seat. With the fortunes of the state Republican Party in decline (even the conservative New York Post says that "New York's GOP is withering -- fast"), Pirro was unlikely to win any of those posts. So she opted for the showcase contest: a challenge to the woman Republicans around the country love to hate. Pirro's announcement garnered homestate headlines, enthusiastic coverage on Fox and conservative talk radio and promises of hefty campaign contribution checks from Hillary-haters nationwide.

But, as the Post admitted, the Pirro campaign is "not one (Clinton's) likely to lose sleep over."

Here's why:

Pirro supports abortion rights and reproductive freedom. She's for civil unions and other gay rights measures. She favors affirmative action and opposes the strict immigration quotas favored by Congressional conservatives. She's a big backer of gun control. And she's been enthusiastic about precisely the sort of "big-government" solutions to child-welfare and community issues that Republicans condemn Clinton for promoting.

In other words, Pirro is more of a Rockefeller Republican than a Reaganite. Yet, in an era of sharper-than-ever partisan divisions, Pirro will attract few if any votes from moderate-to-liberal New Yorkers who have sent clear signals that they do not want to give aid and comfort to President Bush and Congressional Republicans. Don't forget that Bush lost New York State by more than 1,350,000 votes in 2004. In the same year, Democratic Senator Chuck Schumer was re-elected with 71 percent of the vote and the GOP suffered a rare loss of a House seat in the Buffalo area while several of its House incumbents, such as upstater Tom Reynolds, saw their victory margins slashed.

It is comic to suggest that Clinton will lose many moderate-to-liberal votes to Pirro just because, in the words of the King of the Hillary Haters, Dick Morris, "Hillary will have to end up running against someone who is quite like herself in her public positions." New Yorkers are savvy enough to know that, if Pirro wins, she will vote to put right-wing Republican opponents of choice, gay rights and gun control in charge of the Senate, and that will disqualify Pirro with precisely the sort of voters she would need to mount a serious challenge to Clinton.

Morris suggests that Pirro might be able to draw support as a "tough-on-terror" candidate, playing the national security card against Clinton as have other Republicans in other states. But that is an even more comic claim. There is nothing progressive, nor even liberal about Hillary Clinton's stance on national security issues -- she wants to "stay the course" in Iraq, she's backed even the most over-the-top spending allocations for the war, she's been a supporter of the Patriot Act and other assaults on civil liberties and she's frequently more in line with the Bush Administration's approach on national security issues than a number of Senate Republicans.

When all is said and done, Clinton could end up benefiting from the "name" Republican challenge posed by Pirro, as it will reinforce the Democrat's position with base voters who might otherwise have problems with her centrist stances.

Indeed, if there is a candidate who is going to have a problem with her base, it's Pirro.

Several more conservative candidates are in the Republican race, including Ed Cox, a prominent New York lawyer who is the son-in-law of former President Richard Nixon, former Yonkers Mayor John Spencer and attorney Bill Brenner. Pirro may beat the three of them for the GOP nod. But one member of that trio is likely to be the nominee of the Conservative Party, a New York state institution that refused to back Schumer's moderate Republican challenger in 2004 and gained 220,960 votes for a little-known candidate running on its party line in the race. (In the presidential vote, the Conservatives backed Bush, who obtained 155,574 votes, more than 5 percent of his state total, on its line.)

If Pirro loses hundreds of thousands of votes to a Conservative Party nominee, she could well run a weaker race than Clinton's 2000 foe, former US Representative Rick Lazio, who had the Republican and Conservative endorsements. (Lazio got 43 percent of the vote that year, while polls currently put Pirro at around 29 percent.)

That may not be the worst of it for Pirro. While there is no question that Hillary Clinton suffers among some voters because of her association with her husband, former President Bill Clinton, Pirro has a husband problem of her own. As the Post's able political scribe, Fredric U. Dicker, gently notes, "Pirro's strength as a candidate is handicapped by her husband Albert's conviction in 2000 on federal income-tax fraud charges, an earlier revelation that he fathered an out-of-wedlock daughter, as well as the recent allegation by a Mafia informant that Al Pirro leaked confidential material from an ongoing Westchester DA's probe."

Plenty of ink will be spilled over the next fifteen months on the Clinton-Pirro race, and talk-TV and radio will love the fight. But if there was any cheering heard after Pirro announced on Monday, it was coming from Clinton's headquarters.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: cbias; cox; edcox; hillary; pirro; spencer
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Hello New York Republican's. Wake up! Dicker has it right, the party is almost dead.

How do you want to go down? Compromising and bending over for a NARAL endorsed RINO? or sticking to your principles and supporting a real conservative?

Pirro is pro abortion, anti gun, pro gay agenda, pro affirmative action, and pro unrestricted immigration.

Are you people kidding me? Good grief!!!

1 posted on 08/11/2005 9:17:22 PM PDT by nycfree
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To: nycfree

It's not about Pirro winning, it's about making Hitlery show her hand early.


2 posted on 08/11/2005 9:20:05 PM PDT by MarkeyD (I really, really loathe liberals.)
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To: nycfree
give aid and comfort to President Bush

To Dems:  Bush is not running in '08.

3 posted on 08/11/2005 9:21:50 PM PDT by quantim (I'm at the point now where I refer to all liberals as "insurgents.")
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To: nycfree
Nice try CBS .. but NY is a blue State and not likely to election a true conservative any time soon

But Hellary could very well lose a lot of votes to Pirro

4 posted on 08/11/2005 9:22:23 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: nycfree
Clinton's fortunes have taken a dramatic turn for the better.

The Democrats sent CBS a memo to this effect.

5 posted on 08/11/2005 9:22:42 PM PDT by TBP
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To: MarkeyD
John Nichols is an extreme leftist and worships scum. Quote from 2/05 The Nation article: Durbin has challenged the Bush Administration on everything from judicial nominations to flu vaccine to torture at Abu Ghraib. He has hit the ground running with votes against Attorney General nominee Alberto Gonzales and Secretary of State nominee Condoleezza Rice. And there is every indication that he intends to show Congressional Democrats how to be something they have not been since Bush assumed the presidency: an effective opposition.
6 posted on 08/11/2005 9:29:01 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: nycfree

Pirro is pro abortion, anti gun, pro gay agenda, pro affirmative action, and pro unrestricted immigration.
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*** THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE SO-CALLED REPUBLICAN PARTY ***
As far as I am concerned, the Repubs are digging their own grave because they are not fighting, they are not conservative, in fact, WHAT ARE THEY ??? Just liberals that are not TOTAL socialists yet ???


7 posted on 08/11/2005 9:30:27 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: nycfree

At least if Hellery gets re-elected, you know what you have at face value: A dirty lying rat wench. Everythign I have read about Spirro is she is pretty much like Hellery only she decided to be a republocrat for some reason. Should would turn out to be another backstabbing RINO.


8 posted on 08/11/2005 9:31:09 PM PDT by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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To: vpintheak
Quick everyone send her some $$$$ Chafee, Collins and Spector need her help so that they can all caucus with the Dems. I have a bad feeling about this woman.
9 posted on 08/11/2005 9:37:51 PM PDT by nycfree
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To: nycfree

Its amazing the person most responsible for 9/11, is the leading candidate for the N.Y. Senate. If 9/11 didn't wake them up, you wonder what will?


10 posted on 08/11/2005 9:39:37 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Pray for America like its future depended on it, because it does!)
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To: nycfree

CBS is concerned about Republicans chances in knocking off Hillary. Right.

Nice try.


11 posted on 08/11/2005 9:45:13 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: nycfree
She's is certainly better to look at than Mrs Clinton.


12 posted on 08/11/2005 10:02:17 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Republican Wildcat
Agree...a crass/very transparant attempt @ rope-a-dupe...CBS stands for Clinton Bu!! Sh*t
13 posted on 08/11/2005 10:14:38 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: nycfree

Hillary Clinton gets to establish her conservative credentials by running to the right of a New York "Republican". Sheesh!


14 posted on 08/11/2005 10:17:32 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Binary: The Power of Two)
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To: nycfree

Lucks out ? Wishful thinking, the witch is going to have to spend heavily to stay in this race.


15 posted on 08/11/2005 10:26:37 PM PDT by John Lenin (Hillary Clinton =RAT Titantic)
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To: nycfree

Underestimating your opponent is not very wise for a political party that has been losing ground nationally for years.


16 posted on 08/11/2005 10:36:00 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: John Lenin

Bravo Sierra spin from a lefty writer. They know damn well she's in for a fight.


17 posted on 08/11/2005 10:50:00 PM PDT by Tom_Busch (I'm a victim of Rovian mind control.)
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To: Mo1
But Hellary could very well lose a lot of votes to Pirro

Yeah, nice try CBS but I'm not buying it either.
By the press' own way of defining election "victories", if "Hellary" doesn't win big, she loses. And she could very well come out of this contest wounded.

I don't think of her as a National candidate. Her honeymoon appeal lies in her lack of exposure so far, her not having to answer any of the tough questions yet.

Who has asked her about all the muck? the investment bonanza, the Billy gate travel agency scandal, the Rose law firm records found in her bedroom, the relationship with Vince Foster.
So much muck!
And Pirro sounds like she wants to challenge her heinous directly and that means bringing up all the muck.

A juicy cat fight would be very damaging to Ms. big ankles and hurt her presidential image before the real fight even begins!

18 posted on 08/11/2005 11:45:19 PM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: nycfree

Dicker is and always has been a Hillary suck up.

But go ahead and cast cut off your nose to spite your face.


19 posted on 08/11/2005 11:47:46 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: ThirstyMan
A juicy cat fight would be very damaging to Ms. big ankles and hurt her presidential image before the real fight even begins!

Yep!

And after one day ... she is already slipping in the polls

20 posted on 08/11/2005 11:47:53 PM PDT by Mo1
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