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To: Diva Betsy Ross

Why would anyone want to treat a criminal like an equal? I don't understand your post.


13 posted on 08/14/2005 7:31:03 AM PDT by cyborg (I'm having the best day ever.)
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To: cyborg

The term you are looking for is "peer" - as in "tried by a jury of their peers". Not tried by a jury of their equals. A peer of a murderer is a murderer, as no normal person would be a murderer. My position is that a peer of a black person should be another person - not another black person.

My point is the federal government is enforcing racism in education, the courts, business contracting, and in general all aspects of society on which they have input - which is quite a lot. This is a demonstrable disservice to highly pigmented people, and leaving whites the rational choice that maybe if we are going to be treated like racists it would be OK if we started acting as such. Thus - this is not helping.

Lawyers profile jurys professionally, with entire companies of consultants making big$$$ analysing jury make up and dynamics. Someone out there understands precisely why people of color are being removed from certain jurys.

For reasons why many Black jurists are perceived as irresponsible/not rational or capable of functioning in the current US legal system, please consult Reginald Denny.

Diva's Husband


14 posted on 08/14/2005 8:06:39 AM PDT by Mr. Rational
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To: cyborg

The term you are looking for is "peer" - as in "tried by a jury of their peers". Not tried by a jury of their equals. A peer of a murderer is a murderer, as no normal person would be a murderer. My position is that a peer of a black person should be another person - not another black person.

My point is the federal government is enforcing racism in education, the courts, business contracting, and in general all aspects of society on which they have input - which is quite a lot. This is a demonstrable disservice to highly pigmented people, and leaving whites the rational choice that maybe if we are going to be treated like racists it would be OK if we started acting as such. Thus - this is not helping.

Lawyers profile jurys professionally, with entire companies of consultants making big$$$ analysing jury make up and dynamics. Someone out there understands precisely why people of color are being removed from certain jurys.

For reasons why many Black jurists are perceived as irresponsible/not rational or capable of functioning in the current US legal system, please consult Reginald Denny.

Diva's Husband


15 posted on 08/14/2005 8:07:43 AM PDT by Mr. Rational
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