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--> The Cult of Evolution – the Opiate of the Atheists
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Posted on 08/16/2005 11:23:20 AM PDT by woodb01

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To: woodb01
"I like your very scientific analysis here. The illustration above is called an analogous syllogism, a literary technique of comparison to real world examples that people can relate to. I'm sorry that was lost on you, however, as a devout adherent to the secular fundamentalist religious belief of evolution, it doesn't surprise me that this analogy was lost on you."

It wasn't lost on me. Nobody has come up with any realistic probability concerning the creation of life from nonliving matter because there is no way to make such a calculation. Anybody who says they have such a calculation is pulling the number out of their ass. When I said *It has no relation whatsoever with any known physical process." I was talking about the alleged calculation showing evolution not possible.

"My favorite was the response to the article that HARVARD, that "conservative" and God-loving bastion of support for all things conservative (tongue in cheek of course), notes clearly that evolution includes the origination or "genesis" of life itself."

This is a lie. Only the MSM article alluded to this study supporting evolution. The Harvard scientists made no such claim. Because some journalist made an ignorant claim it is true? You really WILL believe anything.
421 posted on 08/16/2005 8:24:15 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: woodb01

How high is the wall? Is it really a brick wall or is it made of stone? Plaster? Can I put my arm through it do you suppose?


422 posted on 08/16/2005 8:25:42 PM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: bobdsmith
So no it wasn't intelligent design. The end solution was not known, and in fact is not understood. How can an intelligent designer not understand their own design huh? This is exactly a design generated by an evolutionary process.

Sorry, no cigar. Nothing occured here that was outside of intelligent design. An intelligence created a piece of software. An intelligence set a goal. An intelligence determined how to differentiate results that moved closer to the goal, from results that did not. An intelligence invented the algorithyms necessary to achieve the desired results. An intelligence created the hardware that was necessary to make use of the intelligently designed software.

Nothing occured by chance. An intelligence direct the outcome of every random result. The result was either accepted or rejected according to the rules that the CREATOR DESIGNED! The outcome would have been EXACTLY the same if the designer manually acted on each result in the fashion in which his software was designed to react. The fact that his machine did it at great speed, and he didn't follow the steps, doesn't mean that the whole process was not conceived and directed by intelligent design. Try again :-)

423 posted on 08/16/2005 8:27:37 PM PDT by GSHastings
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To: WildTurkey
One time, many thought that angels held planes in the air. Now just a few dumb creos think that.

One time, many thought that flies were spontaneously generated by spoiled meat. No just a few dumb evos think that :-)

424 posted on 08/16/2005 8:29:14 PM PDT by GSHastings
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To: GSHastings

" Nothing occured by chance. An intelligence direct the outcome of every random result. "

Um, you DO know what random means, rght?


425 posted on 08/16/2005 8:30:48 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: GSHastings

Intuitively, I agree with you.
The issue is, Science class?
No.
A leap of faith is required to conclude "designer".

No leaps of faith for scientific theory.

And, if existance were not complex at all, if we were all gabby little water vapors, would we not still have the same
confounding questions?

Faith and science don't mix.


426 posted on 08/16/2005 8:30:57 PM PDT by pending
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To: woodb01
Your article is from Scrappleface. Your source link is wrong.
427 posted on 08/16/2005 8:31:39 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: Hoplite
Humor break.

Well done. They really hit all the buzzwords and catch phrases!

428 posted on 08/16/2005 8:32:03 PM PDT by malakhi (Gravity is a theory in crisis.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
That still does not negate the fact that an infinite combination of matter over an indefinite period of time could reasonably produce the proverbial monkey at typewriter striking the number 4-0-6.

And the big problem with that, is that current cosmology and physics doesn't provide you with an infinite combination of matter, nor an indefinite period of time.

SCIENCE clung long and hard to the indefinite period of time (infinitely old universe). Such a universe is virtually required for evolution to have any hope what-so-ever of having occured. But, alas, taint so :-)

429 posted on 08/16/2005 8:33:00 PM PDT by GSHastings
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To: GSHastings

" One time, many thought that flies were spontaneously generated by spoiled meat. No just a few dumb evos think that :-)"

Name one. Another creationist lie. *Liars for the Lord*
Do you think lying will give you a better place i heaven?


430 posted on 08/16/2005 8:33:25 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: pending
if we were all gabby little water vapors

It would be even more puzzling - how did the water vapors get so gabby?

431 posted on 08/16/2005 8:33:37 PM PDT by drlevy88
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Can't you recognize mocking when you see it. That was an answer to the doofus who said that some creationists think angels keep airplanes aloft.


432 posted on 08/16/2005 8:35:02 PM PDT by drlevy88
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To: drlevy88

"Can't you recognize mocking when you see it. That was an answer to the doofus who said that some creationists think angels keep airplanes aloft."

I posted a few things here in the last 10 minutes; what are you talking about?


433 posted on 08/16/2005 8:38:32 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
" Nothing occured by chance. An intelligence direct the outcome of every random result. " Um, you DO know what random means, rght?

No, but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night :-) Actually I think I understand random, as well as the meaning of "is".

Nothing occured by chance. There was no evolutionary process. A machine was programed to produce results. An intelligence determined whether they were good or bad BEFORE THEY EVER OCCURED. The programmer would have achieved the EXACT same result if he had stepped through his program for a sufficiently long time. Nothing evolved. The program produced the desired results, exactly as it was designed to do.

434 posted on 08/16/2005 8:40:15 PM PDT by GSHastings
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To: GSHastings
An intelligence direct the outcome of every random result.

Who made the "intelligence"???

435 posted on 08/16/2005 8:40:33 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: pending
Evangelical Scientists Refute Gravity with New "Intelligent Falling" Theory

Most excellent!

436 posted on 08/16/2005 8:41:23 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: GSHastings

"ctually I think I understand random, as well as the meaning of "is"."

Your post says otherwise.


437 posted on 08/16/2005 8:42:19 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: drlevy88
That was an answer to the doofus who said that some creationists think angels keep airplanes aloft.

Some do. They always rely on faith when they can't understand science.

438 posted on 08/16/2005 8:42:38 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: drlevy88

It would be even more puzzling - how did the water vapors get so gabby?

Errr...perhaps wet dreams?

I agree with you in the sense that there is no apparent mechanism in water to facilitate conversation.
So it would likely be...
How we doin this?
I don't know.
Me neither.
God must've did it.
Yeah.
...
Wanna go see a ballgame?


439 posted on 08/16/2005 8:45:09 PM PDT by pending
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To: WildTurkey

Show us anywhere at all that creationists are claiming this.


440 posted on 08/16/2005 8:46:20 PM PDT by drlevy88
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