Vigilante loses border ranch to immigrants

mysanantonio.com ^ | 08/20/2005 | Jesse Bogan

[rcocean]

The villains in this piece are the LEFT_WING lawyers.

I wonder how $ the illegal aliens got - and how much the lawyers got.

This kind of crap will continue to happen until the USA stops worshiping lawyers and treating them like Lords and Kings.

Don't think that will ever happen though.

[FOXFANVOX]

I have read this through several times. Unless I am missing a grievous crime committed by the US citizens, this ruling is absolutely incredible. First, violence committed while defending your property is frequently mischaracterized as criminal. Some states call it a crime to defend your home before the intruder is actually inside the house and in some cases the owner must further justify the amount of force used in defending the the home from within! The Left seems intent on extending the benefits of our Constitution to those who are not only not citizens, but frequently are violent and/or criminal.

It is an unfortunate legacy of the Democrats that our country is starting to be run by the judicial branch and not the legislative branch. And even worse, the judiciary is ignoring the Constitution and are imposing their own personal views.

[Thommas]

Work that's difficult to get American's to do for $2.00/hour. American's will do any job for a wage that the free market supports.

Amen, brother.

[Red Boots]

I'll bet that these two lose this piece of property within a few years... probably for non-payment of taxes. I wonder who'll pick it up ??.

[Thom Pain]

End Welfare = Labor Supply Problem Solved!

[Regulator]

work that migrants do. Work that's difficult to get Americans to do

The lies roll out of the child molester's mouth endlessly.

[marty60]

So they people that are hiring the illegals are ALSO violating the Federal Wage Protection Laws? HUMMM, how interesting.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Property owner, in an attempt to protect his property, throws illegal immigrants off his land. Property owner is thrown in jail. Court gives illegal immigrants property owner's land. Yep. It's almost time to take up arms.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

If this is a remedy that is even legal I would be surprised. It seems another judge overstepped his bounds.

[auboy]

Round these parts, Morris Dees is referred to as a lowdown snake. And that's putting it mildly.

[Bar-Face]

"They aren't immigrants. They're illegal aliens."

Not according to this quote:
" He said they are in the United States legally with temporary permits as they seek permanent status"

This exemplifies another problem associated with illegal immigration, in many, perhaps too many cases we cannot tell the difference between legal and illegal. So all Hispanics are being painted with the same brush. Control of the border and control of immigration would eliminate this problem.

[Thommas]

These migrants weren't gunned down. The issue of being "pistol whipped" was unresolved. I believe most states theoretically allow reasonable force to evict a trespass. However, with judgments such as this, reasonable force is no force.

It seems that the main action prosecuted was the violation of probation/parole which allowed the immigrants a "loophole" of a rebuttable presumption; id est, "his word against yours" swings in favor of the petitioner since the defendant violated a condition of his probation. The poor land owner was dead in the water before the "trial" started.

[hombre_sincero]

If this invasion continues unchecked, then this is what will probably happen:

[NatsFan]

Watch as this border ranch becomes a safehouse for more illegals coming over the border.

[CaptainK]

They were in the country illegally when the incident happened. They now have money in their pockets and temporary permits.

[Thommas]

"He said they are in the United States legally with temporary permits as they seek permanent status"

One should parse this sentence carefully. "They are" is present tense and does not say they were legal at the time of the incident. There is an excellent chance that the plaintiffs' lawyer locked in their legal status post-incident so as to secure their ability to have continued standing in the court and be able to secure ownership of the property. The lawyer is thus able to secure his fee when the property is sold.

A simple step in rationalizing this conjecture is answering the posit of why "legal" immigrants were crossing the border at this defendant's property line?

[Marauder]

When a property owner loses his land to the intruder for protecting it, it's time for drastic action. This should be a warning to other property owners on the border.

For fear of being banned or called a racist, I'm not posting what I think they should've done. But I wouldn't have been quite so nice as these guys were.

The gloves are off. This is serious stuff.