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What ever happened to CONSERVATISM?
investmentrarities.com ^ | 8/16/05 | Jim Cook

Posted on 08/21/2005 10:29:42 AM PDT by Capitalism2003

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Though I believe the author is a Libertarian, I'm sure conservatives can agree with these points. It's time we remember what has always made the Republican party great...the firm belief in LIMITING the power of this inefficient monster (and parasite) we call government.

Ronald Reagan would be very disappointed with what we are seeing in the GOP today.

Debt to the penny: 08/18/2005 $7,925,741,499,921.91 http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm

1 posted on 08/21/2005 10:29:42 AM PDT by Capitalism2003
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To: Capitalism2003

Most conservatives make an exception for the biggest big government program of all, war. Why expect that when we get into combat formerly inept bureaucrats will become efficient? Maybe contracting out more of our defense efforts than we currently do would give us a better defense at a lower cost.


2 posted on 08/21/2005 10:39:28 AM PDT by Stirner
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To: Capitalism2003

I didn't leave the Republican party, The Republican party left me.


3 posted on 08/21/2005 10:40:14 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google CFR North American Community)
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To: Capitalism2003

Which US GOP Senators are going to Crawford?
They have the time off work and can well afford to buy airline tickets.
Which GOP Governors will be in attendance?
The next President of the United States will be there
and I'll vote for him or her
because they supported our troops when they need it the most.


4 posted on 08/21/2005 10:42:05 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Never Forget)
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Most conservatives make an exception for the biggest big government program of all, war. Why expect that when we get into combat formerly inept bureaucrats will become efficient? Maybe contracting out more of our defense efforts than we currently do would give us a better defense at a lower cost.

President Bush's non-Defense and Homeland Security budget is also the biggest ever, and he has not vetoed a single spending bill.

5 posted on 08/21/2005 10:46:00 AM PDT by DeeOhGee (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
"I didn't leave the Republican party, The Republican party left me."

I am the center of my universe, too. Everyone should get back in line with my ideas, if you ask me.

6 posted on 08/21/2005 10:46:37 AM PDT by SteveMcKing ("I was born a Democrat. I expect I'll be a Democrat the day I leave this earth." -Zell Miller '04)
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I get it, but even helping the "needy villan" is called for in the name of "Christian charity"...

When we are called to exalt, or make excuses for the "needy villan" -- to which the pop-psyche "profession" has taught contemporary man - then Houston, we have a problem.

7 posted on 08/21/2005 10:49:45 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Capitalism2003

What ever happened to correct CAPITALIZATION OF WORDS?


8 posted on 08/21/2005 10:51:02 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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That "reminds" me of the "old" Chris Farley routine "on" Saturnday Night Live where he "used" his fingers to indicate quotes around "words" but always used them "wrong".


9 posted on 08/21/2005 10:53:33 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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The current so called Compassionate Conservative republican sitting in the White House is a far cry from what Reagan, George Sr. and Richard Nixon were for their party. He is both inept and a follower being driven by the NEOCON warlords he mistakenly appointed. Little by little real conservative republicans are realizing they were duped by this man. These are the drops you are seeing in the polls.

Pat Buchanan was the first to see what GWB is really all about and what he would be doing to our country if elected. God help us, he was even re-elected.
10 posted on 08/21/2005 10:54:31 AM PDT by richwolo
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If someone expects me to trudge down to the polls and vote for them, they ought to give me a reason.

Being ever so miniscully less evil than Hellary is not enough.


11 posted on 08/21/2005 10:58:48 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google CFR North American Community)
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Would you have preferred to have Kerry leading this war?

Consider what happened to Cambodia and South Vietnam when we went in, then pulled out without setting in place a stable government. Over 3 Million civilians were slaughtered. 3 Million .... that is half of the Holocost.

Contrast this to what happened in Japan and German when we pulled out. We go in, we dismantle an evil goverment, and replace it with a Democratic and STABLE goverment; or else we'll be going back in there to fight again in just a few years.


12 posted on 08/21/2005 11:00:28 AM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: Capitalism2003

Forced charity is a contradiction in terms.


13 posted on 08/21/2005 11:00:47 AM PDT by TradicalRC (In vino veritas. Folie a Deaux, Menage a Trois Red 2003.)
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To: richwolo

Bush may be in "charge", but he has handlers.


14 posted on 08/21/2005 11:05:31 AM PDT by cynicom
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The current so called Compassionate Conservative republican sitting in the White House is a far cry from what Reagan, George Sr. and Richard Nixon were for their party.

I'm puzzled that you would rank Elder Bush and Nixon with Ronald Reagan. Elder Bush spoke of the "New World Order" coming to pass and Nixon was a Rockefeller puppet.

15 posted on 08/21/2005 11:05:37 AM PDT by Nephi (Globalism is incompatible with originalism.)
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No kidding. Real conservatives ought to notice that politicians are only paying them lip service.


16 posted on 08/21/2005 11:06:20 AM PDT by TradicalRC (In vino veritas. Folie a Deaux, Menage a Trois Red 2003.)
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An affluent, prosperous country that's won a big war and considers itself the number one world power tends to be more accepting of government spending than a poorer country. If it's involved in another ongoing world struggle it will be even less inclined to curb spending. A lot gets justified as necessary to win the current war, or as the fruits of victory in the last one.

Reagan's successes were a result of the fact that the country had to get its economy, budgets, and money supply under control. We had to come to terms with the problems brought out by the 1960s and 1970s.

We'll probably see another "day of reckoning" like that soon, but our situation now is reminiscent of the Eisenhower-Kennedy years four or five decades ago. On the one hand, being involved in a global struggle brings greater respect for government and acceptance of social programs. On the other hand, people think a degree of fiscal and moral laxity is justified and excused by our victory in the Cold War and success in the global economy.

17 posted on 08/21/2005 11:09:00 AM PDT by x
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Liberalism is Americanized socialism

Truer words were never spoken.

I don't care how good the intentions, government has NO lawful authority to take one person's hard earned money and distribute it to others that are too lazy/shiftless/stupid to earn their own.

Leave charitable works to the charities.

18 posted on 08/21/2005 11:09:32 AM PDT by MamaTexan ( I am not a *legal entity*, nor am I a ~person~ as created by law.)
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Rockefeller puppet? First time have ever seen that one.

Nelson nearly snuck in as president after Agnew and Nixon were run out of town, all he needed was for someone to eliminate Ford. Golly what a coincidence, someone did try to bump off Ford two or three times. One coincidence after another.

19 posted on 08/21/2005 11:11:31 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: Nephi

Rockefeller ruined the GOP. Me thinks he and the spooks had a hand in Reagan's assassination attempt too.


20 posted on 08/21/2005 11:13:33 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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