'Christian' Pat Robertson calls for the assassination of Venezuela's President Chavez

Vheadline.com ^ | 8/22/05 | staff

[ChristianDefender]

Robertson is not a pastor, and is not even licensed by his So. Baptist denomination to preach any longer.

He graduated from the Yale University Law School and the New York Theological Seminary, and briefly attended the University of London.

I thinking he is, though at present he's not involve in any church pastoral ministry.

[Conservative til I die]

Do you think Christ had in mind appeasing His enemies?

I don't remember Christ telling Peter to keep striking the Temple guard with his sword when they came to arrest Him. Do you? I don't remember Jesus telling Pilate that His Kingdom was of this world.

[muawiyah]

He was also very much into a pre-Christian ethos, or what he thought was pre-Christian.

[PaulaB]

Chavez (madman) needs to be dealt with

Pat Robertson is not the man

to say how this should happen....

[muawiyah]

When did Robertson become a Southern Baptist?

[MikefromOhio]

you aren't going to win this argument factually anytime soon....

[wagglebee]

Yet have you ever wondered why Christ had never told Peter not to carry a sword prior to this.

[Young Scholar]

First off, I never said it was actually "murder to stop a murderer". The 6th commandment says, "thou shalt not kill".

Kill, not murder.

My Bible (NIV) says "You shall not murder."

It's pretty hard to make the case that the Bible proscribes all killing when, in the same part of the Bible, God orders the execution of people guilty of a range of crimes, and orders Israel to totally annihilate its enemies.

[Ostlandr]

To set things straight re: Hitler and Religion-
Legend has it that Hitler was backed in his early political career by a group called the Thule Society. As I understand it, "Thule" is an Aryan version of Zion (as in Zionism.) Before those nasty Americans interfered in Germany's internal affairs, Herr Hitler was well on his way to creating a State Religion, with himself as both Head of State and High Priest. Read up on the goings-on at the SS Castle sometime.
Question: Is it a coincidence that the three groups most persecuted by the Nazis- Jews, Gypsies and Catholics- all had traditions of what could be called 'defense against the Dark Arts?'

[muawiyah]

Time for that "word" again ~ ANTINOMIANISM.

Be aware there are variations in the spelling here, but the idea is that since grace is given by God on His own terms, ALL is forgiven!

The Antinomianists used to gather in the plaza in front of the Cathedral or other church and take off their clothes to show that "God Forgives". (They did this in an age when people thought God would strike you with a lightning bolt for doing something like that. Today the antinomianists claim people like Chavez are democratically elected civil saints. They dare you to take their clothes off.)

[Conservative til I die]

What a distorted concept of the Bible and what Christ taught. I suppose you think that because of Jesus we should let terrorists massacre our people and do NOTHING to retaliate because of we must "forgive"??? We should have allowed the BTK murderer go free because of Jesus and the NT? Do I really have to explain these things to you? Nice try!

Boy, you sure do love to deal in extremes! As if there's no other option between letting murderers go free and whacking them.

What I can tell you is that Christ didn't have very much to say at all about politics. And despite how you'd like to use religion to pimp your foreign policy ideas, their is no religious objectives to be accomplished by assassinating Chavez.

[Coldwater Creek]

No he is not!! Pat surrendered his credentials when he ran for president. He attends the First Baptist Church of Va. Beach and has not been a pastor for many many years.

[Petronski]

Question: Is it a coincidence that the three groups most persecuted by the Nazis- Jews, Gypsies and Catholics- all had traditions of what could be called 'defense against the Dark Arts?'

No coincidence at all. Hitler was a deeply superstitious pagan and that Thule Society nuttery is all the creepy proof one would need of that.

[PaulaB]

Amen to that...I actually had a

liberal once try to tell me

that Bush couldn't be a Christian due to that commandment..

I of course explained "Thou Shall Not Murder"

but he was so ignorant of the word of God..he couldn't

understand it...

[muawiyah]

Nixon didn't call out the Ohio National Guard.

BTW, I was so happy to see the draftdodgers turn on the National Guard, and vice versa, I swore that in the future I'd make sure I voted only for politicians who were willing to fight our wars with National Guardsmen.

"W" gets my vote every time!

[Coldwater Creek]

Well he certainly should have an opinion, just like you and me.

[Coldwater Creek]

Pat Robertson has been a So Baptist for many many years.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

While I am not in favor of assassination I am in favor of a use of force if necessary. Assassination smacks of thuggery; 5,000 Marines smacks of national resolve. That being said I am in favor of the priestly class advocating the warrior class take care of a possible threat. St. Bernard of Clairvaux comes to mind. It is good when our civilization moves as one i.e. the three orders being present and accounted for.

[csvset]

Ol' Pat must have watch one too many episodes of The Monsignor Martinez Mysteries.

Via Con Dios!

[Clintonfatigued]

This is not about agreeing or disagreeing on a public issue. This is about calling on the government to conduct state-sponsered assassination. As horrible as Chavez is, it's not appropriate for a man of the cloth to be calling for such a thing. If Pat Robertson were an intelligence agent or analyst, it would be different. But men of the cloth are about saving souls and ministering to troubled people. Robertson should know better.