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Limbaugh Turnoff
Aug 24, 2005 | polishproud

Posted on 08/24/2005 5:35:23 AM PDT by PolishProud

(I am a staunch conservative converted to the right by Rush Limbaugh. I remember the exact issue of my conversion - Limbaugh pointed out that so called cuts in federal spending were actually cuts in the growth of spending. Clinton's duplicity in using the words "spending cuts" insulted my sense of what defines honesty as did Clinton in general. But over the years I have become critical of talk show hosts. )

In my opinion the best hosts are as follows; Rush Limbaugh, Michael Medved, Hugh Hewitt, Denver's Mike Rosen and Laura Ingraham. Hosts that suffer by comparison include Sean Hannity, Bill Bennett, O'Reilly (radio and TV), Michael Gallagher and Michael Savage. The worse host, by far, is Michael Savage. He gives conservative talk radio a bad name. When liberals excoriate conservative talk, they use Savage as an example and rightly so.

The most overrated talk show host has got to be Sean Hannity. His show consists of promoting his TV show (40%), and telling us what will be on in the next hour (25%). Once in a while he works in a caller, mostly women. Sean really likes women callers. His interviews with politicos are predictable. And the object of recently program content has been used to take advantage of tragedy TV ratings, i.e. the Natalee Holloway's epic.

Rush Limbaugh is very articulate and knows what turns his audience on. But at times Limbaugh takes us back to the sexual innuendoes of the 1970s. He seems to relish "dirty talk." I can remember when, for one week, he talked about women "farting" in their cars. He thought it was so clever that this double entendre could also refer to women putting on make up in their cars. The other day, he was obsessed with the word "condom," asking if anyone on his staff had a condom in his or her billfold. I kept thinking he was getting some little charge in his neither parts as he said "condom." I don't know where the condom bit was going because I turned him off - and besides the next story, was going to be about a guy who died after having sex with a horse.

People listen to Limbaugh for his political bent, but Rush thinks he's a sports talk show. I and others, judging from Rush's own comment about listener input, don't tune in to hear Rush's NFL predictions or golf scores. If you want to get on Rush's show ask him a NFL question. In talk radio there's a conundrum - news talk shows want to be sport shows, and sports shows wants to be news talk shows.

While Rush relates to his audience on most subjects, he disconnects when he talks about social security as an entitlement. He doesn't accept that the government has made a contract with taxpayers; whereby, in return for the payment of social security taxes, the government promised to provide monies for retirees.

Hugh Hewitt is radio's would be PBS talk show host - that is, when he's on the air. He takes more vacations than President Bush. I'm sure talk show listeners can't wait for Hewitt's to feature Shakespeare, religion, extreme sports or NASCAR - at times Hewitt sounds like a religious show host. Whereas Medved doesn't give much worth to single people, Hewitt doesn't take old people seriously, despite talk show listener demographics. For some reason Hewitt comes across as someone trying to make up for his 5 foot 7 inch stature although I have no idea how tall he is. His most redeeming facet, which puts him in my top five, is his recent work on judicial nominations. Plus he has finally realized that his listeners can discuss complicated issues - whereas in the past he would toss out one line questions any idiot caller could answer.

Mike Medved and Mike Rosen are the best debaters. Although recently Medved has gotten off on social rather than political issues. I mean - how many times do we need to discuss homosexuality, TV is bad, movies are good and being single is unnatural? Medved also annoys with his "conspiracy day" where he takes advantage of sickos who tell us over and over that the moon landing was staged in a Hollywood studio and that the secret Yale "Skull and Bones Society" runs the world. Still his debating skills secures the number two spot in my book.

Caustic and irreverent, Denver's Mike Rosen does not suffer fools gladly; but at times, he becomes a sport show host when he shills for the hapless Colorado Rockies - not coincidentally his station, KOA, carries Rockies games. The other day he jeopardized his top five standing when he did a segment on bad breath. I suppose, when you're on air some thirty plus days a year, some shows will stink - pun intended.

Last but least is the Laura Ingraham show, or as it should be known, Laura's musicfest. What Laura does not seem to understand is, while she may be tired of political talk, her audience isn't. Listeners want political talk not music and movie reviews. As the old saying goes "you gotta dance with the one that brung you," and Laura did not get where she is with her personal taste in music. But Laura does scores big with her attack of lefty sound bites. She and her staff must watch every political TV program aired and it pays off with an entertaining show.

The worse talk show host of a national syndicated program is Mike Gallagher. He doesn't bother with research. You will not hear anything new from Gallagher just the latest issues that gets calls. His demographics seem to be pissed off red necks.

While conservative talk appeal to millions of listeners, advertisers don't think much of its demographics as demonstrated by ads for hair growth, belly fat reduction, gold investing and dating services. Surly conservative talk show listeners aren't as dumb as advertisers think we are.


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I'm no prude, but Rush, when you talk dirty for the sake of talking dirty, its embarrassing and passe'
1 posted on 08/24/2005 5:35:24 AM PDT by PolishProud
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To: PolishProud
Rush has a little bit of shock jock in his repartee. It's likely one of the reasons his show is more succesful than anyone else's, particularly among those who may not be fully on the right.

-Eric

4 posted on 08/24/2005 5:37:40 AM PDT by E Rocc (Anyone who thinks Bush-bashing is banned from FR has never read a Middle East thread.)
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To: PolishProud

After he spent 6 weeks in drug rehab....he changed.


5 posted on 08/24/2005 5:37:43 AM PDT by Vaquero (lets all play " The Crusades")
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To: PolishProud

Rush is fine just the way he is.


7 posted on 08/24/2005 5:38:17 AM PDT by cyborg (I'm having the best day ever.)
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To: PolishProud
Rush is still the best that there is.

He certainly has transformed talk radio, and can be very funny with his parodies.

8 posted on 08/24/2005 5:38:53 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: PolishProud
The most overrated talk show host has got to be Sean Hannity. His show consists of promoting his TV show (40%), and telling us what will be on in the next hour (25%)

Hey, did ya hear he's got a book out?

9 posted on 08/24/2005 5:39:32 AM PDT by The G Man (The Red States ... the world's only hope for survival.)
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To: PolishProud
He takes more vacations than President Bush

This is how the liberals set the agenda... They kept repeating this Bush = too many vacations nonsense to the point where others now repeat this.

10 posted on 08/24/2005 5:39:44 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: PolishProud

I might add Quinn and Rose, and Glenn Beck to the positive list.


11 posted on 08/24/2005 5:39:46 AM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: Farm Fresh Onions

Welcome to the forum!


12 posted on 08/24/2005 5:39:59 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: PolishProud

Radio is so 80's. Get with the program dude.


13 posted on 08/24/2005 5:40:10 AM PDT by NathanBookman (It's dark out.)
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To: PolishProud

The word is "farding" not "farting". There is an off button on your radio. Use it when you are distressed.


14 posted on 08/24/2005 5:40:21 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: PolishProud
Although recently Medved has gotten off on social rather than political issues.

The focus of Michael Medved's entire show is, and always has been, culture and it's impact on society.

15 posted on 08/24/2005 5:41:26 AM PDT by The G Man (The Red States ... the world's only hope for survival.)
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To: PolishProud
The most overrated talk show host has got to be Sean Hannity.

Someone else FINALLY said it! Sean Hannity's show also tends to be quite boring as he has a number of pre-set rants that he goes on--you can't count on hearing anything new. He always has the same guests, it seems. He calls his show a "the most complete news and information available on your radio dial", but he doesn't give you half the news of Rush Limbaugh or Laura Ingraham. Quite frankly, I don't know how he has gotten as far as he has. That said, he seems like a nice guy, the kind of person you would love to talk to or have at your house, he just isn't qualified to do a three-hour radio show.

16 posted on 08/24/2005 5:41:28 AM PDT by Seņor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: PolishProud
While Rush relates to his audience on most subjects, he disconnects when he talks about social security as an entitlement. He doesn't accept that the government has made a contract with taxpayers; whereby, in return for the payment of social security taxes, the government promised to provide monies for retirees.

And exactly which of the enumerated powers delegated to the federal government by the United States Constitution gives the federal government the power to contract with taxpayers to "to provide monies for retirees?"

I don't believe it is there. Please correct me if I am wrong.

17 posted on 08/24/2005 5:41:49 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: PolishProud
He doesn't accept that the government has made a contract with taxpayers; whereby, in return for the payment of social security taxes, the government promised to provide monies for retirees.

Really?

I don't remember signing any contract with the government for retirement money.

They just take it out of my paycheck without asking me if I want it or not.

Normally such an arrangement is called "stealing", not a "contract."

18 posted on 08/24/2005 5:42:22 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Northern Yankee

I agree, Northern Yankee. Rush is the best at what he does. He has a big ego, but he's done a lot for the conservative movement.


19 posted on 08/24/2005 5:42:39 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: PolishProud

Good points.

It is important to not forget that all these people are entertainers.

Entertainers are paid based on their ratings.

It helps to not take any of them too seriously.


20 posted on 08/24/2005 5:42:42 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock - Make the elected personally liable for their wasteful spending)
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To: PolishProud

"Surly conservative talk show listeners"

Don't call me surly.


21 posted on 08/24/2005 5:42:43 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: PolishProud

The word is "FARDING".........


22 posted on 08/24/2005 5:42:51 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? GOOOOGLE your own name. Want to have fun? GOOOOGLE your neighbor's......)
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To: PolishProud

Rush sets the standard that others wish they could emulate successfully.


23 posted on 08/24/2005 5:43:15 AM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: kittymyrib

Ditto that!!


24 posted on 08/24/2005 5:44:04 AM PDT by shadeaud (Liberals suffer from acute interior cornial craniorectoitis)
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To: PolishProud
Rush is the man! Without him there would not be ANY person that fights the left-wing anti-American fascist democrats. The mainstream media totally supports the terrorist and cheers bombs going off in Iraq. Without Rush there would not be a counter to the hate American mainstream media and the anti-American traitors in the US Senate.

Go Rush GO!
25 posted on 08/24/2005 5:44:12 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: William Creel

Do we have a classification that's higher than vanity?


26 posted on 08/24/2005 5:44:19 AM PDT by TheZMan (Texas is my home, not yours. Get out.)
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To: Seņor Zorro

By the time Sean comes on, FR has already covered everything he could talk about. This site is his show prep............


27 posted on 08/24/2005 5:44:41 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? GOOOOGLE your own name. Want to have fun? GOOOOGLE your neighbor's......)
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To: PolishProud

"He doesn't accept that the government has made a contract with taxpayers; whereby, in return for the payment of social security taxes, the government promised to provide monies for retirees".....tell that to the 1943 folks...who now can nolonger rely upon an SS check at age 65...but perhaps age 67?....legislated theft.


28 posted on 08/24/2005 5:44:56 AM PDT by mo
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To: PolishProud
he talked about women "farting

I always thought that Rush was saying farding, which is different.

29 posted on 08/24/2005 5:45:54 AM PDT by Jemian (It's better to be historically accurate than politically correct.)
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To: PolishProud

It seems you are not a regular listener. Rush does just fine. yesterday he was on fire, he even nailed the reasons for the political elite covering up able danger.

Hard to take this review seriously.


30 posted on 08/24/2005 5:46:10 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: PolishProud
Good summary.

Caustic and irreverent, Denver's Mike Rosen does not suffer fools gladly;

I agree with that, though Mike Rosen is the most articulate and intelligent of all the talk show hosts. He does not deal in emotion, but facts. And yes, he is nothing if not caustic. That goes for people who call in agreeing with him if they cannot make a cogent point.

32 posted on 08/24/2005 5:47:32 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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Do we have a classification that's higher than vanity?

'Self-obsession?'

33 posted on 08/24/2005 5:48:22 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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To: PolishProud
I find Sean Hannity a lot easier to listen to on the radio than I do trying to watch him on TV. The debate style of Hannity and Colmes is cumbersome and tiring. What you get is everyone interrupting and talking over each other and very little substance.

Rush Limbaugh is one of the funniest human beings on earth! That man makes me laugh hard and brightens my day. I do agree with what you say about the dirty talk, I have children and I find that I increasingly have to turn him off because of the subject matter.

CC&E

34 posted on 08/24/2005 5:48:29 AM PDT by Calm_Cool_and_Elected (Be nice, I'm new here)
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To: E Rocc
Rush and Sean seeking the Jerry Springer audience.

FNC seeking the CNN audience.

Purity is non existent.

When the host goes over the line and becomes unwelcome in my kitchen, I turn the radio OFF.

35 posted on 08/24/2005 5:48:33 AM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Sometime you really have to acknowledge, like it or not, that social security is here and it's not going away.


36 posted on 08/24/2005 5:50:07 AM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: Red Badger
Gee, when Limbaugh was talking about "farding" he didn't make the spelling difference. He wanted you to hear "farting." And yesterday he got off on "vagina chocolate" made of "sweet" white chocolate

I spelled that right didn't I?

37 posted on 08/24/2005 5:50:15 AM PDT by PolishProud (A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants)
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To: Farm Fresh Onions
Ahhh, but then we get the priviledge of listening to Walter Williams! He's my favorite fill-in for Rush.

CC&E

38 posted on 08/24/2005 5:50:33 AM PDT by Calm_Cool_and_Elected (Be nice, I'm new here)
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To: PolishProud

Most entertaining and biting commentary to be found on the Glenn Beck Show. If you haven't listened, your missing a fun time.


39 posted on 08/24/2005 5:51:39 AM PDT by mict42
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he talked about women "farting" in their cars

The word is and was "farding". I don't recall the context, but I am sure it was making a point, like illustrating absurdity by being absurd.

And the condom bit was reliving his condom updates from the past, which was to illustrate the folly of promoting the use of condoms as a cure all.

You should listen to Rush for more than a week before you start posting vanities about him or anyone else.

40 posted on 08/24/2005 5:51:41 AM PDT by Clovis_Skeptic (Islam is a religion of peace my as@)
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To: Archon of the East

If you have not listened to Tony Snow - put him on the postive side. He even freeps while his show is on.


41 posted on 08/24/2005 5:52:02 AM PDT by mathluv (Mercy shown to an evil man is cruelty to the innocent.)
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To: Vaquero

Umm, that was the point of the rehab...


42 posted on 08/24/2005 5:52:30 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: PolishProud
Rush also taught me how to easily identify seminar callers. They always begin with the phrase "I am a Republican but...." or "I voted for Bush but...."

I didn't read your post because it began

"I am a staunch conservative converted to the right by Rush Limbaugh"

Sure you are.
43 posted on 08/24/2005 5:52:45 AM PDT by Republican Red (''Van der Sloot" is Dutch for ''Kennedy.")
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To: PolishProud
You really need to get a life. You have waaaay too much time on your hands. Maybe you need a mate...
44 posted on 08/24/2005 5:52:53 AM PDT by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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To: PolishProud
Rush gives it to us at the intellectual level.
Michael Savage gives it to us at the raw emotional level.
The rest are just in between.
45 posted on 08/24/2005 5:53:01 AM PDT by jetson (throne)
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To: PolishProud

....and we really care what you think because....

Quite frankly, I enjoy all facets of Rush and will continue to listen to him on a daily basis. You can always switch to Air America if that's more to your liking....


46 posted on 08/24/2005 5:53:12 AM PDT by auto power
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To: newgeezer
--snip--The most overrated talk show host has got to be Sean Hannity. His show consists of promoting his TV show (40%), and telling us what will be on in the next hour (25%). Once in a while he works in a caller, mostly women. Sean really likes women callers. His interviews with politicos are predictable. And the object of recently program content has been used to take advantage of tragedy TV ratings, i.e. the Natalee Holloway's epic.

Talk radio ping.

47 posted on 08/24/2005 5:54:04 AM PDT by biblewonk (A house of cards built on Matt 16:18)
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To: longtermmemmory

Rush has had several good rants in the last week, maybe last two weeks.


48 posted on 08/24/2005 5:54:04 AM PDT by mathluv (Mercy shown to an evil man is cruelty to the innocent.)
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To: PolishProud

What about Mark Levin? He's pretty good. I also listen to Kevin McCullough, local NY feel to it with christian spin.


49 posted on 08/24/2005 5:54:53 AM PDT by cyborg (I'm having the best day ever.)
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To: mathluv

I enjoy Tony Snow also. He and Rush are my picks. Rush is the most informed, IMO, and his analysis' are on the money most of the time. I have to respect a man, too, who carries a three hour program on his own with no guests. Rush is the man.


50 posted on 08/24/2005 5:55:06 AM PDT by katieanna
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