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Krauthammer: The Stakes After Gaza
New York Daily News ^ | 8/26/05 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 08/28/2005 7:25:35 AM PDT by StoneGiant

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To: robertpaulsen
You are very picky of what you choose to be aware of because you are not honest, however since one guy that worked in the nuclear field in Israel blew the whistle a long time ago it has been public knowledge for years. All except you of course.

So If Israel has had nuclear weapons for many years and the Arabs are not glowing in the dark, it kinda makes you out to be a slanderer for saying they are a danger to the Arabs. Fact has proven otherwise hasn't it! And since the Arabs are claiming in their own newspapers and TV broadcasts that as soon as they get nukes Israel will glow in the dark it makes you out to be a bit hypocritical about it. Or are you not aware of that too?

Tell me, do you know why you are so anti-JOO? Or are you just a slave to your passions?
21 posted on 08/28/2005 2:51:59 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: robertpaulsen
So what do you want the Israeli's to do with their children? Ship them off to the cities instead of letting them live with their parents?

Or were you hoping for a more dark and sinister solution to childbirth for Jews?

Come on Robert, you thought this was worth mentioning in the first place. Surely you can defend your position now.

Unless of course, it is indefensible, or in fact, despicable.
22 posted on 08/28/2005 2:55:39 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: robertpaulsen

Hey, Robert. Lets see you post the figures for the Arab growth in those same towns!

How about Hebron's growth zooming up by 130,000 in the last generation? Isn't it amazing that 20,000 Arabs all had 130,000 kids? And to make it even more stunning, 80% of them claim their parents do not come from Israel. That means that those that had kids all averaged 30 kids each!

Now that is quite a birth rate isn't it. One could of course think that all Arab women have six breasts, or the more logical conclusion, that the Arabs are mostly illegal immigrants.

Hello? Robert?


23 posted on 08/28/2005 3:02:20 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel
"it kinda makes you out to be a slanderer for saying they are a danger to the Arabs."

It kinda doesn't, in that I was merely responding to the poster who said, "Removal of the settlers from Gaza will make it more practical for the Israelis to use nuclear weapons in that area if the circumstances dictate".

He's the one who made the threat. He's the one who made Israel a danger to the Arabs with his threat of the use nuclear weapons by Israel.

Get on his case and get off my back.

"since one guy that worked in the nuclear field in Israel blew the whistle a long time ago it has been public knowledge for years."

Ah. So Israel admitted having nuclear weapons. Yes?

Or do they continue to deny it?

24 posted on 08/28/2005 3:03:44 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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25 posted on 08/28/2005 3:07:32 PM PDT by Alouette (We will have unity when liberals love their unborn children more than they hate conservatives)
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To: StoneGiant

I think Krauthammer is angry (I'm not exactly dancing either) and is trying to fire a warning to the Bush Administration not to go too far. But in no way is this the first possible step to a total Arab victory.


26 posted on 08/28/2005 3:08:31 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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27 posted on 08/28/2005 3:08:36 PM PDT by Alouette (We will have unity when liberals love their unborn children more than they hate conservatives)
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To: robertpaulsen

My favorite of your choices would be Gaza. When Israel was formed there were less than 80,000 Arabs there, now they claim there are 1.5 Million. Now, that means, the birth rate in GAZA in one generation is 1,875 children each.

Must have breasts like a centipede ya think? Either that or they lie. Since Immigration is illegal into Israel, it is obvious that the Arab League smuggle a lot more than explosives and artillery rockets in the tunnels from Egypt.

Well, it has been nice poking a stick at the troll, but I must wander on...

Have a nice day.


28 posted on 08/28/2005 3:08:50 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: robertpaulsen

He is not the Israeli Government, he is someone making an obvious observation. Now you tell me, what do you do with a nation that has done more war crimes than any other nation in history. The Sand-Nazi's make Hitler look like a panzy.

Well, I mean, what does someone sane do. Hint: worship is not the answer.


29 posted on 08/28/2005 3:11:08 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: robertpaulsen
I wasn't aware that Israel admitted to having nuclear weapons.

They haven't admitted to anything, but be assured that they've got 'em. It is a great deterrent.

30 posted on 08/28/2005 3:13:14 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: robertpaulsen
As Israel basked in world admiration for pulling out of the Gaza Strip

Gee. I missed that.

31 posted on 08/28/2005 3:16:01 PM PDT by bad company (what the hell happened to the 11th commandment?)
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He's the one who made the threat. He's the one who made Israel a danger to the Arabs with his threat

HuronMan, are you really the guy who has control of Israel's nuke launching missiles? You're scaring little robbie and all the helpless little Palestinians.

32 posted on 08/28/2005 3:21:51 PM PDT by Alouette (We will have unity when liberals love their unborn children more than they hate conservatives)
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To: robertpaulsen
So what is your solution for the population growth of the Jews that lived in Gaza? Corks? Enforced sterilization?

Come on, I want to know. You listed three areas, like they all must abstain to keep from polluting their own Nation with themselves or something. What is your logical explanation for bringing this up? Don't Jews have the right to have children, and live in their own nation? I mean, I have asked the Palestinians where they come from and the vast majority of them say Syria, or Egypt, or Jordan or Lebanon or Saudi Arabia or one of the 22 Arab Nations. Almost none of them say they came from here.

That is the problem isn't it. The world needs a twenty third Arab Terrorist State so bad that tiny Israel is just going to have to make the sacrifice and cut itself asunder for them. After all, Jews have such a huge part of the Middle East, about a third of a percent. Surely 6 million Jews can afford to cut a nation that is 50 mile wide down to 9 miles wide for a 1 million terrorists to make a home in? Thats fair isn't it?

Besides, it will be another Apartheid State. The world is mighty short of them after Rhodesia was broken up. Why the only Ethnic Cleansed, Apartheid State left is Saudi Arabia. Unless of course you count Jews as people, then there are over a dozen Arab Official Bigot States.

Perhaps the difficulty is the rarity of Official Bigots States that are Sworn Terrorists that have official terror groups in their presidential cabinet. That really cuts it down, the Palestinian Authority will be the only one on earth. Must be why you love them so...

Frankly, the 75% of the Arabs here that say Israel must be destroyed by terrorism even if they are given a State need to be killed for the sake of mankind. Do you realize that when these brain boys get a hold of smallpox or Ebola that they will release it downtown Jerusalem in a heartbeat?

Within a year, you or your family will die from what ever bio agent they get their hands on. Simply because bacteria are smarter than them, does not mean that bacteria are that much smarter than them. Bacteria, like Islamics do not understand about borders.

33 posted on 08/28/2005 3:29:40 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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34 posted on 08/28/2005 4:55:26 PM PDT by SJackson (“I worry that I've seen this movie before”, Rep. Mark Kirk on aid to palestinians.)
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To: StoneGiant; Alouette
Seen in profile, that image has a shocking familiarity. If you go to the eastern entrance of the Roman forum today, you will see the huge triumphal Arch of Titus erected in the year 81 to commemorate the conquest of the Jews and the destruction of the Jewish state — Judea — in the year 70. One of the friezes shows the seven-branched menorah being carried out of the temple in Jerusalem — as booty and symbol of the conquest of Judea — perched on a long horizontal staff borne by Roman soldiers walking one behind the other. No one steeped in Jewish history could fail to see the intended resemblance. The intended message was that the Gaza evacuation was a replay of the Roman conquest — made all the more cruel and ironic because this time it was carried out by fellow Jews.

What an excellent article.

35 posted on 08/28/2005 6:03:04 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: American in Israel

There is quite a market in fake ID papers. No Palestinian on the UN UNWRA dole roll ever dies.


36 posted on 08/28/2005 6:34:34 PM PDT by dervish (tagline for rent, inquire within)
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To: robertpaulsen

And, just how much did the Arab/Palestinian population grow in the West Bank during the time Jews added 12,000+ to their number?

What was the point of your comment?


37 posted on 08/29/2005 5:27:05 AM PDT by Naomi4
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"What was the point of your comment?"

The author stated that "the Israelis have ... destroyed four West Bank settlements to create geographic contiguity for Palestinian territory in the northern West Bank", giving one the impression that Israel is reducing their presence in the West Bank.

I was simply correcting that (mis)impression. Are you uncomfortable with the truth? You're obviously not the only one.

38 posted on 08/29/2005 9:30:43 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: American in Israel
"Lets see you post the figures for the Arab growth in those same towns!"

Which towns would those be? I mentioned no towns.

"or the more logical conclusion, that the Arabs are mostly illegal immigrants."

BWAHAHAHAHA!

And the Israeli "settlers" in the West Bank are what -- legal immigrants? Returning to their homeland? Couldn't find any room in Israel to build?

39 posted on 08/29/2005 9:47:10 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
You listed three areas, and then said you did not. Strange trying to speak with you.

Then you say Israel had no where to grow but the west bank, could they not build in Israel.

But by International Law the West Bank IS Israel. By moral law, seeing they captured it back from Jordan when Jordan attacked again, it is Israel's. And by Biblical historical law it is Israel's as the "West Bank" is where Abraham stood when God told him the land was his.

So I have a strange conversation with someone who denies the obvious to slander the innocent, in defense of terrorists that have declared war on his own Nation.

I guess logic is out...

Have you considered exorcism?
40 posted on 08/30/2005 2:14:55 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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