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Skip to comments.Katrina Live Thread XII
Posted on 08/31/2005 4:00:15 PM PDT by NautiNurse
President Bush: "We are dealing with one of the worst national disasters in our nation's history." Push has appropriated vast federal resources to assist with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
78,000 people are currently in shelters. New Orleans evacuation continues. 10,000 additional National Guard troops have been called to service.
Hospitals are running low on supplies, and public health concerns include water borne disease, poor sanitation, food and drinking water contamination and shortages, mosquitoes, carbon monixide poisoning from electricity generators, lack of childcare, and the special needs of the elderly.
Links to various news, local and state government websites:
WLOX TV Biloxi, Gulfport, Pascagula has link to locate family and friends (very slow load)
2theAdvocate - Baton Rouge Includes Slidell, St. John Parish, St. Bernard Parish updates, and other locations.
Inside Houma Today includes shelter and volunteer updates
WLBT.com Jackson MS
WALA Channel 4 Mobile, AL Includes links to distribution centers, Emergency Ops, etc.
Sun-Herald Gulfport MS Includes link to town by town reports
Gulfport News via Topix.net
WAFB Baton Rouge
Mobile Register via al.com
Mississippi updates via Jackson Ledger
Lafayette LA Daily Advertiser
Pensacola News Journal
St Bernard Local Government
Alabama Homeland Security Volunteers can sign up online
Louisiana Homeland Security
Louisiana State Police road closure info
State of Mississippi Website has traffic alerts, emergency contact numbers
WTOK-TV (follow the link on the home page): http://www.wtok.com/
Gulf Coast Storm Network (radio): http://www.stormalert.net/main.html#
Related FR Threads:
FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread
Discussion Thread - Hurricane Katrina - What Went Wrong?!?
Post Hurricane Katrina IMAGES Here
Looting Begins In New Orleans
Martial Law Declared in New Orleans
Due to the number of requests to assist, the following list of some charities is provided.
This is not intended as an endorsement for any of the charities.
www.redcross.org or 1-800 HELP NOW - note: website is slow
Salvation Army - 1-800-SAL-ARMY or Salvation Army currently looking for in-state volunteers - (888)363-2769
Operation Blessing: (800) 436-6348.
America's Second Harvest: (800) 344-8070.
Catholic Charities USA: (800) 919-9338, or www.catholiccharitiesusa.org.
Christian Reformed World Relief Committee: (800) 848-5818.
Church World Service: (800) 297-1516 or online at www.churchworldservice. org.
Lutheran Disaster Response: (800) 638-3522.
Nazarene Disaster Response: (888) 256-5886.
Presbyterian Disaster Assistance: (800) 872-3283.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is accepting donations at its 3,800 stores and Web site, www.walmart.com.
Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Katrina Live Thread, Part IX
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm 12
These storms usually start off the coast of Africa. That's when you start watching them. There's no reason whatsoever there wasn't enough food or water. No excuses will do. The La Governor may not win re-election. SHE DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU WATCH THE EYE????? If the storm slows down and the eye stays tight, Governor of La, you better get ready.
and, yes, Mogadishu, too.
Dead bodies everywhere: convention center, down camp street, all over.
It's raining now and I guess that's a relief from the heat. It's hot as hell down there in the sun. Crime is absolutely rampant: rapes, murders, rape-murder combinations.
In case anyone in national security is reading this, get the word to President Bush that we need the military in here NOW. The Active Duty Armed Forces. Mr. President, we are losing this city. I don't care what you're hearing on the news. The city is being lost. It is the law of the jungle down here. The command and control structure here is barely functioning. I'm not sure it's anyone's fault -- I'm not sure it could be any other way at this point. We need the kind of logistical support and infrastructure only the Active Duty military can provide. The hospitals are in dire straights. The police barely have any capabilities at this point. The National Guard is doing their best, but the situation is not being contained. I'm here to help in anyway I can, but my capabilities are limited and dropping. Please get the military here to maintain order before this city is lost.
Some things that are important and should be added to that list:
1. Compact, lightweight handheld CB radio capable of operation on Channel 9 and Channel 19 (and batteries).
2. Compact, lightweight handheld FRS/GMRS radio plus batteries.
3. Crank/solar combo powered AM/FM radio (shortwave optional).
It's clear to me that communications are almost as important as food.
"My gang-banger looters"? What does that mean? Is that a racial remark? I'm white, if you need to know. Your rescuers? Wow, you are really full of yourself!
The woman reporting from the EOC in Baton Rouge seemed to say that there were lots of NG and others ready to go in but the area wasn't safe. Same with FEMA they say they can't go in because it's not safe.
Well, excuse me, but how is it going to get safe unless the NG goes in.
We may be seeing a political play by the local LA government to get the military in first because thugs are going to need to be taken out and the LA government doesn't want to be "blamed" for that.
And, in NO, a few additional factors that are worsening that situation, including extremely limited access, a lack of communications, and a large urban population.
I would bet money that there is a plan, perhaps even a very thorough plan, that you could sit down and pick through, that is rendered null and void by circumstances on the ground. That happens with plans. And plans don't get things done all by themselves. FEMA had a great plan to pre-position resources, and executed it. But now getting those resources to where they are needed is near impossible - not because of the lack of a plan, but simply because of conditions on the ground.
Yes, it is bad. It is very, very bad. But it is easy for any of us to sit at a computer with electricity and food and telephones and a shower this morning and a car and family members and friends who are safe and sound and pontificate about how we'd do it better. Easy, yes, but a waste of time and breath.
These folks are going to be extremely dangerous as they are detoxing. Food and water isn't going to cut it for them. They NEEEED drugs. In a city the size of New Orleans, plus the surrounding areas, think folks on how many hard core drug users are jonesing really badly right now, and what kind of a problem this creates.
Please fv...evac boats and choppers were subject to gunfire this morning. Hysterics on this thread are not going to get people out of NOLA.
If Clinton were president, we would be turning our outrage outward and FREEPING THE WHITE HOUSE like crazy, letting the folks at the top know our viewpoints. However, I don't know if anyone has called for a general CYBER FREEP of the White House or Homeland Security, asking them to do the things necessary that each of us is telling each other internally, that they should do. I think I have to spend some time freeping the powers that be, now.
Wow there are some wild stories going around.
The Lt Gov is Mary Landrieu's brother. Need I say more? :o)
US MARINES:USMC son called me about 11 CST and was YELLING into the phone "WHY THE F^CK DON'T THEY SEND US IN TO STOP THIS SH!T NOW!!" He grew up in NOLA and Slidell.
No leadership = no control.
Whew, that's rough stuff.
Just heard a military update...sending in some from the 82nd AB..this was per a military person on CNN
you can get the scanner on itunes? wow
Guess what . . . there's no Roto Router as . . . thorough or dramatic as God.
I read on another thread the mayor was not in New Orleans anymore. Does anyone have confirmation on that?
Chertoff on now..
This is an urban problem. The rest of the state and south is NOT like that.
My stomach hurts. Is this America that this is happening in? It's insane.
They lost everything...
That's exactly what I am referring to in my posts. I say be prepared because eventually it's coming.
Just imagine how well the plans will work on the ground when this is a biological, chemical, or radiation attack against a major city. Those plans better include controlling civil disorder better than the NO democrats' plans for hurricane aftermaths.
Yep, the *problems* would not now be so organized & (better) armed.
Anyone shooting @ any emergency workers should be shot.
I was there.
Bookmark it. He updates all day. It's really eye opening.
From our keyboards to our elected officials. Federal, whomever. The White House.
They need to hear from us DIRECTLY now with the intensity that this internal discussion on FR has been taking place.
The president can't hear you shouting; however, I'm sure they're working out the details yesterday.
I'm glad he's armed. You all be very careful out there. I'm concerned we are going to see civil unrest spread to other areas.
I may just not be seeing it, but a radio is ESSENTIAL!
100 posts in the thread works fine.
Would prefer 100 posts of thread header listings, too.
Can't effect that for some reason. Maybe due overload.
A most excellent analysis.
If you can, that is.
If you can't, it is pretty stupid for folks to run around saying you should have done it before the disaster.
I can tell you that the few times I've had to go for days without power, etc due to weather, my gas stove and gas fireplaces were essential survival equipment.
That's wonderful news. While I'm sorry he lost everything, he's alive and that's what counts. So many more are not. Where there's life, there is hope.
I've copied your list to my e-mail and printed it out. Thank you. I see a lot of people don't have a gun on their lists and am glad it's on yours. It's about the only thing we've prepared for, some time ago.
Yep. I believe NO has been FUBAR'd. This is surreal.
BTW, I have enjoyed your posts. They have been full of good logical common sense. We have to keep our heads here and think this one through. It's going to be a long recovery.
Something needs to be done about the Gangsta Rap, too... if the FCC can fine CBS for the Janet Jackson fiasco, then they should be able to start to levy fines for music using the crude language.
That's a relief. Any other FReepers unaccounted for that we know of?
Such wonderful news...
If he needs a place to stay, direct him to the Housing thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1473656/posts where many wonderful FReepers are offering up their homes.
Has anyone heard from Liberty2004 yet? They were last heard from, bunkering down in Metairie.
I would just hope that my elected officials would do a better job of protecting me and my community. This is a dismal failure in every sense of the word.
You are right that we can sit around and criticize, but, time will tell, facts will eventually come out, and we'll have to wait and see if more could have been done.
Meantime, if you wish to pick a fight with me, I'm not interested. I only know what I see and am reacting to it just like everyone else.
Just posted and provided a link so that some that have questions may research and prepare for themselves.
As I placed a 'caveat''...one has to discern their own situation, their own hazards. One has to consider whether to make out a Bug Out Bag for a few days, a week or longer.
Naturally weight will exponentially go up with the duration one wants to prepare for and also the number of people involved.
AND!!!..You also have to remember, nowadays any civic/locale/state 'shelter will surely confiscate many of the items on the aforementioned list.
Updates as they come in on Katrina
12:45 PM CDT on Thursday, September 1, 2005
12:43 P.M. - Kim Nunemaker, St. Bernard Ave. Specialty Hospital: 26 bed-ridden patients and 40 staff members have to evacuate from the building. They need assistance moving these patients down several flights of stairs because the elevator is broken. Anyone who can help is asked to come to 3700 St. Charles Avenue immediately.
I had to make myself get away from the computer & tv for a while - but now I'm chomping at the bite - what's the latest? Thanks
Hard to keep track but I think I read somewhere on this thread maybe he's in Baton Rouge now.
Both are extremely offensive to Him. He can tolerate it only so long before letting REAPING WHAT WAS SOWN is allowed to kick in.
The people dying aren't the corrupt ones in office they have escaped with their full pockets. What about those in MS was it sent there because of sinful casinos? What about fires & quakes in Calif.? Aids? All sent to sinners? Kinda like firing a shotgun into a crowd because of one bad person..lots of Innocent people get killed or hurt.
Same thing was said about the San Francisco Earthquake in 1906. "'The Lord sent it, the Lord!' Hard to believe an all powerful and all compassionate God sent this disaster because some have reaped what they sown..what about the rest, did they sow this? I'm not convinced.
Chertoff just confirmed shooting of national guardsman in leg during the overnight (reported here on FR about 11 hours ago) . . .
I know they are being shot at. I am responding to other posters who seem to agree with me. This is a disaster of biblical proportions, wouldn't you agree? I think it's appropriate to call our U.S. Representatives. Remember, there were guns pointed at people in Pinellas Park but they were pointed at us by LE. Nobody wants to get shot. Nobody wants to die on the steps of the convention center either.