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Katrina Live Thread XII
Various ^ | 31 August 2005 | Various

Posted on 08/31/2005 4:00:15 PM PDT by NautiNurse

President Bush: "We are dealing with one of the worst national disasters in our nation's history." Push has appropriated vast federal resources to assist with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

78,000 people are currently in shelters. New Orleans evacuation continues. 10,000 additional National Guard troops have been called to service.

Hospitals are running low on supplies, and public health concerns include water borne disease, poor sanitation, food and drinking water contamination and shortages, mosquitoes, carbon monixide poisoning from electricity generators, lack of childcare, and the special needs of the elderly.

Links to various news, local and state government websites:

WLOX TV Biloxi, Gulfport, Pascagula has link to locate family and friends (very slow load)

2theAdvocate - Baton Rouge Includes Slidell, St. John Parish, St. Bernard Parish updates, and other locations.

NOLA.com

Inside Houma Today includes shelter and volunteer updates

WLBT.com Jackson MS

WALA Channel 4 Mobile, AL Includes links to distribution centers, Emergency Ops, etc.

Sun-Herald Gulfport MS Includes link to town by town reports

Gulfport News via Topix.net

WAFB Baton Rouge

Mobile Register via al.com

Mississippi updates via Jackson Ledger

Lafayette LA Daily Advertiser

Pensacola News Journal

St Bernard Local Government
Alabama Homeland Security Volunteers can sign up online
Alabama DOT
Alabama.gov
Louisiana Homeland Security
Louisiana State Police road closure info
State of Mississippi Website has traffic alerts, emergency contact numbers

Streaming Video:

WWL-TV: http://www.khou.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=beloint_khou&props=livenoad

WDSU-TV: http://mfile.akamai.com/12912/live/reflector:38843.asx"

WPMI-TV: http://www.wpmi.com/mediacenter/default.aspx?videoId=113739

WKRG-TV: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95518

WTOK-TV (follow the link on the home page): http://www.wtok.com/

WJTV-TV: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95563

Gulf Coast Storm Network (radio): http://www.stormalert.net/main.html#


Related FR Threads:

FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread

Discussion Thread - Hurricane Katrina - What Went Wrong?!?

Post Hurricane Katrina IMAGES Here

Looting Begins In New Orleans

Martial Law Declared in New Orleans


Due to the number of requests to assist, the following list of some charities is provided.
This is not intended as an endorsement for any of the charities.

www.redcross.org or 1-800 HELP NOW - note: website is slow
Salvation Army - 1-800-SAL-ARMY or Salvation Army currently looking for in-state volunteers - (888)363-2769
Operation Blessing: (800) 436-6348.
America's Second Harvest: (800) 344-8070.
Catholic Charities USA: (800) 919-9338, or www.catholiccharitiesusa.org.
Christian Reformed World Relief Committee: (800) 848-5818.
Church World Service: (800) 297-1516 or online at www.churchworldservice. org.
Lutheran Disaster Response: (800) 638-3522.
Nazarene Disaster Response: (888) 256-5886.
Presbyterian Disaster Assistance: (800) 872-3283.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is accepting donations at its 3,800 stores and Web site, www.walmart.com.

Previous Threads:

Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Katrina Live Thread, Part IX
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm 12


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: hurricane; katrina; tropical
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To: BurbankKarl
They are flying troops BACK from Iraq to deal with this. La. Nat Guard.

Hadn't heard that.

4,451 posted on 09/01/2005 11:16:00 AM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: madison10
This is for the 'minimal' survival, 'minimal' comfort of yourself, your loved ones. Think duffle bag...(AND to be prepared AHEAD of time)...at the ready. You're not to take the kitchen sink with you... ;)

Think of how so many backpackers fend for themselves for a much longer duration. You're not going to carry a full camp stove...just a hiking stove. Go to any sporting goods/out door store (think ProBass) and you can see the lightweigth/efficient/SMALL items.

4,452 posted on 09/01/2005 11:16:05 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: tcrlaf
FOX Reporting that police and National Guard are trading fire with unknown people...

Sad...but this is good news given where the situation had degerated to.

4,453 posted on 09/01/2005 11:16:15 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Lizarde; don-o

Retyping regarding numbers:

"NG is exempt from posse com
for this reason we have been planning very closely for possibility of coordinated effort of NG to augment LEOs
over the next 3 days, the NG... will be deploying into NOLA a force the size of the NOLA PD each day every day for the next 3 days"


4,454 posted on 09/01/2005 11:16:48 AM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: overtaxed_canadian
somewhere overlooking the canal near the Marriott.

Canal St. It's a major street that borders the FQ. I stayed there when I was in NO.

4,455 posted on 09/01/2005 11:16:52 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Abigail Adams

Please drop the "South" bashing.


4,456 posted on 09/01/2005 11:16:54 AM PDT by TX Conservative
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To: oldleft

However, if the bad guys loot the guns and ammo, just who has the upper hand? Hmmm.

The thugs in NO were not that much o a problem until they became armed frm the looting. I'm not afraid of DVDs or TVs. Guns are another matter.


4,457 posted on 09/01/2005 11:17:02 AM PDT by GOP_Proud (Those who preach tolerance most, have the least for my views.)
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To: Spktyr

12:45 Central - that's just 30 minutes ago - might not be too late


4,458 posted on 09/01/2005 11:17:06 AM PDT by LikeLight
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To: oldleft

Fats Domino stayed, also his wife, daughter and grandkids. They were in the 9th Ward and now are missing.


4,459 posted on 09/01/2005 11:17:07 AM PDT by billygoatgruff
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To: floriduh voter

There should be a nationwide disaster law mandating that Wal-Mart and all gun sellers secure their inventory in storage crates to be locked and moved to police lots outside of the city, to prevent looting of weapons.

In the Superdome, along with separating the fit from the special needs population, I think they should have set up an emergency detox area for all the addicts who were hours away from drug/alcohol withdrawals, paranoia, panic and seizures so that they could be medically subdued to prevent violence against the medical personnel administering meds to the hospital evacuees.


4,460 posted on 09/01/2005 11:17:09 AM PDT by madfly
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To: Peach
"And still freepers complaining because the president hasn't sent in the military to quell the civil unrest.

Justice Department saying right now they are except from doing such a thing -- unless the Governor so mandates. And I can't tell yet if she has done so yet."

It's Thurs already. All those bad things you listed are still happening. The criminals are interfering with FEMA's lawful rescue efforts. Regardless od FEMA related law, 18USC 24X related law is being violated by the murderous criminals. The Justice dept is full of it. Gonzales is either an empty airhead, or he's flat out lying.

From where I sit, it looks like the inaction is deliberate.

4,461 posted on 09/01/2005 11:17:16 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: LikeLight

Serious dinconnect. Do they even know that law enforcement is probably being murdered as we speak? This has got to get under control somehow NOW!


4,462 posted on 09/01/2005 11:17:16 AM PDT by conservativebabe (God Bless Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida)
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To: ingodwetrust
WWL says people are dying in the parking lot outside the superdome, from heat and dehydration.

2000 people made it to Houston. I pray the infants and young were heavily among those rescued.

4,463 posted on 09/01/2005 11:17:46 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: NautiNurse

Yes- the unit of LA NG that has been deployed for 11 mos...they were coming home anyway- I think they pushed forward the return by a week or two.


4,464 posted on 09/01/2005 11:17:47 AM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: EternalHope
I felt that way right on 9-11.

And for weeks after that.

I was so confident we'd seen the light as a people and things would change.

And here we are, what, four years minus one week, out from 9-11. And they never did close the borders, or get islamo terrorists or gangs on our soil under complete control. SO ....I am a bit skeptical things will change after NO.

4,465 posted on 09/01/2005 11:18:00 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (USA should be studied by StateDept. as a "Foreign Country". Then will see OUR insurgents and chaos.)
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To: MrsCinAZ

The news is good, but have mercy on dialups plse


4,466 posted on 09/01/2005 11:18:05 AM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: oldleft
When the "Big One" hits LA, even in poor neighborhoods there will be church leaders, business leaders, home owners, etc. I don't think they'll let things get too out of control.

Naive. The Rodney King riots demonstrated precisely the opposite, and there wasn't even an Earthquake to blame for that.

4,467 posted on 09/01/2005 11:18:25 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Smogger

I'm talking about the behavior of the people, not the effects. There's no difference in motivation or behavior at all. I saw a lot of people that night.


4,468 posted on 09/01/2005 11:18:30 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: tiredoflaundry
Is the Marriot next to SD?

It's about 6 or 7 blocks away.
4,469 posted on 09/01/2005 11:18:44 AM PDT by Daus (Invade Aruba!)
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To: Spktyr
Let LE and NG use effin frag grenades. "Surround me? I don't think so!"

I'm not kidding. Go medieval, NOW. The thugs already are.

My stomach is starting to really hurt. I can't imagine what the innocents are enduring, even if I read about it all day.
4,470 posted on 09/01/2005 11:18:53 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG; NautiNurse; SandyInSeattle
Ah - "Sign in", not "Check in".
(Duh.)

Link on post one of this thread.

4,471 posted on 09/01/2005 11:18:54 AM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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To: OXENinFLA

Thank you


4,472 posted on 09/01/2005 11:19:10 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: rolling_stone

I have questioned God no little bit about why not a more precise miraculous message to evil doers.

He seems to have reminded me that throughout history He has chosen to do it this way.

I'm reminded that people TEND as a group--to get the kind of government they deserve.

In any case, I'm not really in a position to tell God He is doing it wrong. Help yourself.

I also believe that those with truly Good Hearts toward God, so called 'innocents'--that all such have extra grace in their moments of suffering and at their moment of death.

God DOES ALL THINGS WELL.

Even disasters and suffering.

He *IS* HOLY. The world is set to learn much more about the long neglected awe and reverential fear of God.


4,473 posted on 09/01/2005 11:19:10 AM PDT by Quix (GOD IS LOVE and full of mercy HE IS ALSO JUST & fiercely HOLY. Cultures choosing death shall have it)
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To: SE Mom

per FOX: Congress re-convening from recess Thurs or Fri for emergency legislation.


4,474 posted on 09/01/2005 11:19:18 AM PDT by conservativebabe (God Bless Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida)
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To: EternalHope
But no matter what the next catastrophe is, we will be much better prepared. No way will most cities let what is happening in New Orleans happen to them.

What is happening in NOLA is BECAUSE IT WAS ALLOWED to happen during the Watts riots--Riots following MLK assasination and the Rodney KIng fiasco

They set the precedent for what is going on

I remember the riots in the major cities after MLK was assasinated.
Philadelphia had NO RIOTS because Frank Rizzo was given a free hand by the Mayor and he told them POINT BLANK NO ONE IS BURNING OR LOOTING THIS CITY PERIOD

Course the liberals HATED Rizzo
4,475 posted on 09/01/2005 11:19:35 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: madfly

You are freaking nut! Did you forget the </sarcasm> tag?


4,476 posted on 09/01/2005 11:19:41 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal \m/("_")\m/)
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To: Abigail Adams
"I suppose this kind of loss of law and order could happen anywhere. But I'm beginning to think that the south is really different from other parts of the country."

I live at ground zero for Charley, Frances and Jeanne in central Florida. We are southern and we didn't have this kind of lawlessness or looting. Please refrain from stereotyping. Thanks
4,477 posted on 09/01/2005 11:19:43 AM PDT by DocRock (Osama said, "We love death, the U.S. loves life, that is the main difference between us.")
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To: NautiNurse

a ray of light in sea of darkness, thx.


4,478 posted on 09/01/2005 11:20:04 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: Spktyr

God be with them


4,479 posted on 09/01/2005 11:20:14 AM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: Daus

Thanks for the info.


4,480 posted on 09/01/2005 11:20:16 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (In Tampa Bay praying for all In Katrina's path.)
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To: cgk

I saw someone from Saint Bernard last night, pleading for help. How frustrating it is to know that essential personnel are tied up fighting thugs, instead of being more able to help the people in outlying areas.


4,481 posted on 09/01/2005 11:20:37 AM PDT by Darnright ( Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before)
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To: MarMema
WWL says people are dying in the parking lot outside the superdome, from heat and dehydration.

Some REMF is insisting that civilian drivers be replaced by military drivers with an escort. There will be a riot when they arrive.

4,482 posted on 09/01/2005 11:20:46 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: spunkets

Unless someone tells me differently, you will have to excuse me if I happen to believe what CHertoff said. It is ILLEGAL for the military to operate in a law enforcement function unless so mandated by the Governor.

And I've yet to hear she has mandated.


4,483 posted on 09/01/2005 11:20:50 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: madfly

They have those laws in some states...


4,484 posted on 09/01/2005 11:20:51 AM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: Stand Watch Listen

Don't forget to have a vehicle that is capable of bugging out - the advantage of some 4WD SUV and truck types.

Most SUVs are not offroad capable and therefore are not suitable. If you are single, consider a dual-purpose or offroad motorcycle.


4,485 posted on 09/01/2005 11:20:56 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Dog

Thank God they got out with their lives but so sorry to hear they lost everything.


4,486 posted on 09/01/2005 11:21:03 AM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: conservativebabe

The live shot of the Special Forces Sniper guy desperately running with his gear and rifle through the water on the tracks to try to save his brethren under fire is the most compelling sight I have ever seen - GODSPEED to this brother and success in his mission!!!


4,487 posted on 09/01/2005 11:21:15 AM PDT by LikeLight
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To: Conservababe
All government from NO have now moved to new headquarters in Baton Rouge.

Just great. No on-site leadership to direct the police, FD, etc. Though from what I'm seeing it may be just as well -- give orders to the NG to establish order.

4,488 posted on 09/01/2005 11:21:18 AM PDT by CedarDave (VietNam Vet Remembers -- This Time SUPPORT the Troops, COMPLETE the Mission)
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To: CedarDave

"To: ALASKA
True, but when the normally dry side of a levee is soaked, the integrity of the levee will be compromised. If the river levees are breached we would have an endless supply of water pouring into
New Orleans. Equilibrium would occur when the "bowl" is filled to river-level and starts running OUT...............

I would worry when they dewater the lake water, and the saturated conditions and increasing pressure from the river could cause a rupture of the river levees which are still intact, as far as we know."


Yup.


4,489 posted on 09/01/2005 11:21:21 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: Spktyr; oldleft

Communications..True..oh so true. And with the advent of computer chips, advanced electronics...there are electronic hand generated/solar items that encompass/contain all-in-one, most of the features you listed.


4,490 posted on 09/01/2005 11:21:21 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: conservativebabe

Ah...So it's the Congress fault...I knew it. Why have they waited so long to reconvene? Why haven't they toured NO?
*sarcasm so noted*


4,491 posted on 09/01/2005 11:21:24 AM PDT by queenkathy (Dear God, I have a problem; it's me.)
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To: MarMema
I pray the infants and young were heavily among those rescued.

I don't know the hierarchy of rescue, but the parents with infants and children had better have been given first priority on those buses.

4,492 posted on 09/01/2005 11:21:29 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Peach

I don't think that is true.


>>>It is ILLEGAL for the military to operate in a law enforcement function unless so mandated by the Governor.


4,493 posted on 09/01/2005 11:21:31 AM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: NautiNurse

NO is turning into another Iraq. fgs!

When our own homeground gets so bad,
what does that say about what we are
dealing with here?


4,494 posted on 09/01/2005 11:21:47 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: DocRock
"I suppose this kind of loss of law and order could happen anywhere. But I'm beginning to think that the south is really different from other parts of the country." I live at ground zero for Charley, Frances and Jeanne in central Florida. We are southern and we didn't have this kind of lawlessness or looting. Please refrain from stereotyping. Thanks

And I went thru Betsy and Camille without this BS.

4,495 posted on 09/01/2005 11:22:11 AM PDT by Johnny Crab (Always thankful.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

I hope you're right.

But I have also read that the governor has NOT requested miltary help.
If this is true, she should be immediately removed from office for reasons of "incapacity".

This is sheer lunacy.


4,496 posted on 09/01/2005 11:22:14 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: NautiNurse
As Rod Stewart once sang, "Every picture tells a story, don't it?"


4,497 posted on 09/01/2005 11:22:26 AM PDT by buickmackane (reporting from Pineville, Rapides Parish, LA)
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To: Peach

Question is, if she hasn't, why? Does she need to be hit in the head with a piece of lumber?


4,498 posted on 09/01/2005 11:22:31 AM PDT by conservativebabe (God Bless Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida)
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To: madfly

From what I've read, most of the Walmarts *did* evac their guns. They're getting most of the guns from other stores.


4,499 posted on 09/01/2005 11:22:33 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: madfly

I know they planned the Astro Dome really well, but are they prepared for the drug addicts and alcoholics?


4,500 posted on 09/01/2005 11:22:44 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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