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Katrina Live Thread XII
Various ^ | 31 August 2005 | Various

Posted on 08/31/2005 4:00:15 PM PDT by NautiNurse

President Bush: "We are dealing with one of the worst national disasters in our nation's history." Push has appropriated vast federal resources to assist with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

78,000 people are currently in shelters. New Orleans evacuation continues. 10,000 additional National Guard troops have been called to service.

Hospitals are running low on supplies, and public health concerns include water borne disease, poor sanitation, food and drinking water contamination and shortages, mosquitoes, carbon monixide poisoning from electricity generators, lack of childcare, and the special needs of the elderly.

Links to various news, local and state government websites:

WLOX TV Biloxi, Gulfport, Pascagula has link to locate family and friends (very slow load)

2theAdvocate - Baton Rouge Includes Slidell, St. John Parish, St. Bernard Parish updates, and other locations.

NOLA.com

Inside Houma Today includes shelter and volunteer updates

WLBT.com Jackson MS

WALA Channel 4 Mobile, AL Includes links to distribution centers, Emergency Ops, etc.

Sun-Herald Gulfport MS Includes link to town by town reports

Gulfport News via Topix.net

WAFB Baton Rouge

Mobile Register via al.com

Mississippi updates via Jackson Ledger

Lafayette LA Daily Advertiser

Pensacola News Journal

St Bernard Local Government
Alabama Homeland Security Volunteers can sign up online
Alabama DOT
Alabama.gov
Louisiana Homeland Security
Louisiana State Police road closure info
State of Mississippi Website has traffic alerts, emergency contact numbers

Streaming Video:

WWL-TV: http://www.khou.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=beloint_khou&props=livenoad

WDSU-TV: http://mfile.akamai.com/12912/live/reflector:38843.asx"

WPMI-TV: http://www.wpmi.com/mediacenter/default.aspx?videoId=113739

WKRG-TV: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95518

WTOK-TV (follow the link on the home page): http://www.wtok.com/

WJTV-TV: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95563

Gulf Coast Storm Network (radio): http://www.stormalert.net/main.html#


Related FR Threads:

FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread

Discussion Thread - Hurricane Katrina - What Went Wrong?!?

Post Hurricane Katrina IMAGES Here

Looting Begins In New Orleans

Martial Law Declared in New Orleans


Due to the number of requests to assist, the following list of some charities is provided.
This is not intended as an endorsement for any of the charities.

www.redcross.org or 1-800 HELP NOW - note: website is slow
Salvation Army - 1-800-SAL-ARMY or Salvation Army currently looking for in-state volunteers - (888)363-2769
Operation Blessing: (800) 436-6348.
America's Second Harvest: (800) 344-8070.
Catholic Charities USA: (800) 919-9338, or www.catholiccharitiesusa.org.
Christian Reformed World Relief Committee: (800) 848-5818.
Church World Service: (800) 297-1516 or online at www.churchworldservice. org.
Lutheran Disaster Response: (800) 638-3522.
Nazarene Disaster Response: (888) 256-5886.
Presbyterian Disaster Assistance: (800) 872-3283.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is accepting donations at its 3,800 stores and Web site, www.walmart.com.

Previous Threads:

Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Katrina Live Thread, Part IX
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm 12


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: hurricane; katrina; tropical
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To: Woodstock
Water was coming from underground in the French Quarter, under the bricks. The sharks are dying in the streets of NO, so it appears that a lot of the water is fresh water, not salt from the lakes.

How do you clean that much toxic waste? My brothers basement was flooded with city sewage. It took over a year for that clean up, i CAN'T IMAGING AN ENTIRE CITY, COUNTY, PARRISH to clean up, if they can drain the water.

An engineer on FOX said the pumps will have problems because of sand and stuff in the water.
5,951 posted on 09/01/2005 3:28:26 PM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas (War, 33% yes, 33% no, 33% undecided, so began the American Revolution.)
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To: Mo1

That's cause they had just worked on the darn levee...it wasn't slated for repair cause they thought they had repaired it.


5,952 posted on 09/01/2005 3:28:42 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: sodpoodle

Hundreds gather in hopes of a ride out of New Orleans. New emergencies continued to threaten thousands of refugees, and efforts were underway to evacuate the city. (Carolyn Cole / Los Angeles Times) August 31, 2005

5,953 posted on 09/01/2005 3:28:48 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: michaelt

"Anyone seen the video of what looks like Marine One (the President's helicopter) down in the area? "

A few minutes after that clip, they showed another clip (also without commentary) that looked like 41 and 42 in the disaster zone.

FWIW


5,954 posted on 09/01/2005 3:29:01 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (The most dangerous phrase in the English language: "There oughtta be a law")
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To: steveegg

Those freakin Saudis better pony up some cash! And Kuwait too. They OWE US.


5,955 posted on 09/01/2005 3:29:15 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: RDTF

All I could think was GOD what a relief to hear a normal person- he's a REAL man.


5,956 posted on 09/01/2005 3:29:29 PM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: spunkets

I'd concur with that. There may be some damage to the refinery from the winds, although nothing seems damaged in that photo, but the water wasn't a problem.


5,957 posted on 09/01/2005 3:29:36 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Mo1

Are you talking about the Canal St. levee? Because if so, I thought that it was the most recently completed levee, supposedly going to stand up a lot better than the previous levees.


5,958 posted on 09/01/2005 3:29:40 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: oceanview

Any further comment on this Baltimore/Houston business? I haven't seen anything anywhere on this...


5,960 posted on 09/01/2005 3:30:01 PM PDT by Loyolas Mattman
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To: spunkets; NautiNurse; All

does anyone have a link to mayor nagin's speech, or a transcript? The one today with Garland Robinette on the radio where he was cursing?


5,961 posted on 09/01/2005 3:30:16 PM PDT by Ellesu
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To: Mad Dawgg

And a heck of a lot cheaper in the long run.


5,962 posted on 09/01/2005 3:30:34 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Yankereb

You are totally right. I remember my dad telling me the same thing about the Red Cross in WW2...My baby sister died while he was in Arkansas and they "gave" him train tickets to get home allright, then they harassed him and threatened him until he repaid them.


5,963 posted on 09/01/2005 3:31:09 PM PDT by queenkathy (Dear God, I have a problem; it's me.)
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To: MrsCinAZ
"Dumped by whom?"

Don't know. That's the problem. The evauation is not organized in any way. People are thinking they're helping out by getting the people out of NO in any way possibe, but not planning ahead enough to make sure there are facilities, food, water, etc. where refugees are being taken.

Did you see where the first bus to the Astrodome was not expected? I've been working all day so don't know what happened to these people other than they got food and water by the Red Cross, but were told that because they didn't come from the "dome" in NO and were not expected, they could not go into the Astrodome (sp). The evacuation is a MESS!!!

5,964 posted on 09/01/2005 3:31:16 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Sometimes solutions are too simple. They could have used a freakin' blimp(s) with a scrolling marquee using the ticker feed from FOX or CNN to spill in continuous updates to the crowds.

It's football season, so they must be a lot of them up and ready to display advertisements over many stadiums on football Sundays.

5,965 posted on 09/01/2005 3:31:19 PM PDT by madfly
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To: Ellesu
I need the link to the thread on Free Republic that shows Clinton Cut the Levee budget during his term.

Any help would be appreciated.

I've treid a dozen searches with no luck.

5,966 posted on 09/01/2005 3:31:49 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: Clemenza

oh geez, I just shot diet coke through my nose. My montior thanks you


5,967 posted on 09/01/2005 3:31:57 PM PDT by morans14
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To: Lizarde; AmericanInTokyo

If I'm not mistaken, AFT mentioned that Bush appointed Rudy Guilaini as interim governor. all Rudy has to do, is give Harry Lee a call. The dynamic duo. Rudy cleans up this cesspool, and we'll be looking at our next president.

Governor Blanco couldn't handle a classroom full of rowdy 5 yr old children. Sad....


5,968 posted on 09/01/2005 3:32:05 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: MrsCinAZ

A National Guard multi-purpose utility truck fords the floodwaters left by Hurricane Katrina to bring supplies to the Super Dome in downtown New Orleans, La., on Aug 31, 2005. Tens of thousands of displaced citizens sought shelter at the dome but are now being evacuated as floodwaters continue to rise throughout the area. Department of Defense units are mobilizing as part of Joint Task Force Katrina to support the Federal Emergency Management Agency's disaster-relief efforts in the Gulf Coast areas devastated by Hurricane Katrina. DoD photo by Airman Jeremy L. Grisham, U.S. Navy. (Released)

5,969 posted on 09/01/2005 3:32:11 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: madfly

air space probably limited?


5,970 posted on 09/01/2005 3:32:29 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: madfly
(AP) NFL Commissioner says New Orleans Saints likely won't play at the Superdome this season.

I think that's pretty obvious.
5,971 posted on 09/01/2005 3:32:54 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: All
LOOTERS

God forgive me for saying this, but if there are a few looters with guns, especially the sharpshooter sniper on the roof, firing on the Drs. trying to evacuate sick from the hospital; save some of your ammo for when that bastard in the White House makes his visit to NO this week!!

DU Response to Looting

5,972 posted on 09/01/2005 3:32:59 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: spunkets

I agree. I don't see any obvious signs of leaks. There is no sheen on the waters in the pic and the water appears to be contained within several dikes (concrete, then earthen). The concrete would've been coated with an impermeable top coat, we 'painted' our containments areas once a year to meet EPA permit requirements. Unless the tanks suffer from wind damage or wind stress, they should function as designed. Even the complete failure of one tank appears it would be contained.


5,973 posted on 09/01/2005 3:33:03 PM PDT by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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To: Clemenza
They are brother and sister, not married. Then again, this is Louisiana.

Euw.

5,974 posted on 09/01/2005 3:33:10 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: MrsCinAZ
And we wonder why this country has problems. Talk about callin them as you see them.

Is anyone able to read the name of the artist/newspaper in the left lower corner. The person deserves a medal.

5,975 posted on 09/01/2005 3:33:11 PM PDT by Tarheel ( Murphy's law #21--Internet flame wars are started by two cats who did not like their supper.)
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To: leadpenny
I think there are going to be some angry voters come Nov 06.

I couldn't ask for a better B-day present!

5,976 posted on 09/01/2005 3:33:36 PM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas (War, 33% yes, 33% no, 33% undecided, so began the American Revolution.)
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To: All

What's the best way to try to find out if a friend of a friend (not close family) is o.k. in Slidell, LA?


5,977 posted on 09/01/2005 3:33:51 PM PDT by Mrs. Xtrmst (All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing. --Edmund Burke)
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To: Mad Dawgg

I stole part of it:

In 1998, the DoD and the US Army Corps of Engineers drafted a document detailing the fact that New Orleans was protected by levees which were designed to protect N.O. from a LEVEL 3 hurricane. These groups wanted to go into N.O. and assess what needed to be done to improve the levees to at least withstand a LEVEL 4 OR 5 hurricane.

This serious request and supporting information was deemed highly necessary to protect N.O. and was presented in full to the President of the United States for approval of this critical project.

THE REQUEST WAS DENIED BY WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON. For those interested in the details, they are available in the FEDERAL REGISTER as a matter of permanent record.


5,978 posted on 09/01/2005 3:33:59 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: steveegg

A 60K Tunner Loader from the 305th Aerial Port Squadron, McGuire Air Force Base, N.J., waits to unload equipment from the 621st Contingency Response Wing onto a U.S. Air Force C-17 Globemaster III from the 305th Air Mobility Wing, at McGuire Air Force Base, Aug. 31, 2005. The 621st Contingency Response Wing is sending 29 members and 110,000 pounds of cargo, including water, food, communication equipment,and generators to help with Hurricane Katrina relief efforts in New Orleans. U.S. Air Force photo by Kenn Mann

5,979 posted on 09/01/2005 3:34:11 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: Mrs. Xtrmst

Try these links:

http://neworleans.craigslist.org/ccc/
http://www.wdsu.com/news/4919183/detail.html
http://www.nola.com/forums/searching/
http://www.wwltv.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=16&sid=28245b14c7727df3df4bd2e188d4f473


5,980 posted on 09/01/2005 3:34:49 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Mrs. Xtrmst

http://www.tsasw.org/qso/healthandwelfare.asp

fill this out and hit send.


5,981 posted on 09/01/2005 3:35:25 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: Tarheel

Cartoon's probably syndicated. By Jim Borgman, I think.


5,983 posted on 09/01/2005 3:35:34 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Got a link to any of that info? I did a google and came up empty!


5,984 posted on 09/01/2005 3:35:45 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: MrsCinAZ

U.S. Navy sailors, assigned aircrew duties with Helicopter Mine Counter Measure Squadron 15, load Meals Ready to Eat and bottles of water, provided by the State of Louisiana, into the back of an MH-53E helicopter, in Jefferson, La., during the second day of the Hurricane Katrina's relief efforts, Aug. 31, 2005. The squadron, based out of Naval Air Station Corpus Christi, Texas, is currently embarked onboard USS Bataan now underway about 80 miles off the coast of New Orleans. The Bataan has been tasked to be the Maritime Disaster Relief Coordinator for the Navy's role in the relief efforts. U.S. Navy photo by Lt.j.g. Sammy Brake

5,985 posted on 09/01/2005 3:36:24 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: Mrs. Xtrmst

I think it's nearly impossible to get info from Slidell. I do know that the Oak Harbor neighborhood is flooded....and some neighborhoods are practically destroyed.


5,986 posted on 09/01/2005 3:36:47 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: TheSpottedOwl

Gov. Blanco is a former teacher!


5,987 posted on 09/01/2005 3:37:12 PM PDT by Tarheel ( Murphy's law #21--Internet flame wars are started by two cats who did not like their supper.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Nope...but the guy who posted that did it on this thread, but didn't quote sources. So take it for what it's worth.

I suspect it was all part of a larger appropriations bill...but I wasn't living in NO then so didn't pay it any mind..


5,989 posted on 09/01/2005 3:37:27 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: EverOnward
told that because they didn't come from the "dome" in NO and were not expected, they could not go into the Astrodome (sp).

They got into the Astrodome.

5,990 posted on 09/01/2005 3:37:36 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: PRND21
There's enough sewage floating in the streets of New Orleans. You should stay out of the cesspool.
(That said, Secret Service, are you listening?)
5,991 posted on 09/01/2005 3:38:11 PM PDT by shezza (God Bless Our Troops)
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To: mewzilla

A U.S. Navy SH-60B Seahawk, assigned to Helicopter Anti-Submarine Squadron Light 49, takes off from Naval Air Station North Island, Calif., Sept. 1, 2005, to provide support for the Hurricane Katrina relief efforts. Commander, Naval Air Forces Pacific is supporting the relief efforts by sending eight helicopters and two C-40 "Clipper" aircraft to Naval Air Station Pensacola, Fla., to support search and rescue and logistics missions in the aftermath of the disaster. Official U.S. Navy photo by 2nd Class Petty Officer Michael Watkins.

5,993 posted on 09/01/2005 3:38:17 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
"Nope...but the guy who posted that did it on this thread, but didn't quote sources. So take it for what it's worth..."

I swear I found that by link on this thread to another on FR dealing with this story. But I am not have ing luck finding it.

5,994 posted on 09/01/2005 3:39:23 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: Mrs. Xtrmst

Try the links at the beginning of this thread. WLOX, Nola.com, Sun Herald, Clarion Ledger. All of them have places where you can search by name and post a request for information. I just found out that a lot of the people I've been looking for are in Houston. Out of several hundred, 36 are still unaccounted for, but I hope they're okay and just unable to communicate.


5,996 posted on 09/01/2005 3:39:48 PM PDT by pollyg107
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To: Mad Dawgg

It might be related to this study:

March 13, 1998

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

CONTACT: John Hall

Mississippi River levee public meeting scheduled
Environmental report to be discussed

NEW ORLEANS --

Visit our Website: www.mvn.usace.army.mil FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: John Hall, 504-862-2201 March 11, 1998

NEW ORLEANS - The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers will hold a public meeting in Baton Rouge on March 31 on an environmental report concerning major improvements to Mississippi River levees.

The Corps of Engineers invites all interested people to use this opportunity to ask questions or express views on the report, prepared by the New Orleans, Vicksburg and Memphis districts of the Corps of Engineers.

Event: Public meeting Sponsor: U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Date: Tuesday, March 31, 1998 Time: 7 p.m. Place: State Archives Building, 3851 Essen Lane, Baton Rouge

The environmental report -- formally known as the Draft Supplemental Environmental Impact Statement for the Mississippi River Mainline Levees Enlargement and Seepage Control Berm Construction - has been distributed. The three-volume document is available for public review in these libraries in the New Orleans District area:

ð Baton Rouge: (1) East Baton Rouge Public Library, 7911 Goodwood Boulevard. (2) State Library of Louisiana, Louisiana Section, 760 North 3rd Street. ð Donaldsonville: Ascension Parish Public Library, 500 Mississippi Street. ð New Orleans: (1) New Orleans Public Library, 219 Loyola Avenue. (2) Library, New Orleans District, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, 7400 Leake Avenue.

The levee improvements involve an ongoing project of raising deficient levee sections and controlling seepage between Cape Girardeau, Mo., and Venice, La. The draft environmental impact statement will cover the remainder of the project beginning Oct. 1, 1998. The cost for the remaining work is $650 million.

The draft supplemental environmental impact statement was a component of a consent decree between the Corps and several environmental groups. The decree resulted from a lawsuit filed by the the Mississippi River Basin Alliance, the Sierra Club and others, challenging the Corps' levee-improvement plans. Changes made as a result include, among other things, a reduction to 4,800 from 11,600 acres of the bottomland hardwood areas from which material would be borrowed to strengthen the levees. Borrow areas would total 16 acres in the New Orleans District, which begins at Old River, near Morganza, La.

The Baton Rouge meeting will be the last of six. Others are being held in Cape Girardeau, Mo., March 16; Blytheville, Ark., March 17; Greenville, Miss., March 18; Lake Providence, La., March 19, and Natchez, Miss., March 30. -- 30 -

ADDITIONAL CONTACT: Patty K. Elliott, 601-631-5053 Vicksburg District, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers

http://www.mvn.usace.army.mil/pao/releases/levees.HTM


5,997 posted on 09/01/2005 3:40:11 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Mad Dawgg
I need the link to the thread on Free Republic that shows Clinton Cut the Levee budget during his term.

At this point, the most important thing is to blame this on Clinton.

5,998 posted on 09/01/2005 3:40:23 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: mewzilla

Thanks--Cinncinati Enquirer.


5,999 posted on 09/01/2005 3:40:42 PM PDT by Tarheel ( Murphy's law #21--Internet flame wars are started by two cats who did not like their supper.)
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To: Mad Dawgg
This it?


Bill Clinton did not sign for the improvements & money requested by the Army Corp of Engineers & LA to make them. Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1474591/posts?page=77#77
THE REQUEST WAS DENIED BY WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON. For those interested in the details, they are available in the FEDERAL REGISTER as a matter of permanent record. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1474414/posts
6,000 posted on 09/01/2005 3:41:08 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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