Skip to comments.Hurricane Relief Idea -- Contribute Guns and Ammo to Law Abiding Homeowners!
Posted on 09/01/2005 7:49:11 AM PDT by CWW
The one lesson the scenes of looting in New Orleans have hammered home is that the Founding Fathers knew what they were doing when they enacted the Second Amendment to the Constitution. They knew from experience that there is only a thin veneer between a civilized society and utter anarchy.
How many of us live in a city or town where we know that but for the precence of the police, we would be looking at the same type of lawlessness playing itself out on our televisions this week?
I for one am going to go out and purchase a shotgun. I'll be damned if I'm going to let some punk threaten my family and rob me a gun or knifepoint.
Seems to me that the best hurricane relief we can provide to the good folks of New Orleans and Biloxi, is a gun and some ammunition to guard what's left of their homes and business.
So thank you Founding Fathers for your foresight. We have looked into the belly of the beast, and it's not a pretty sight!
And businesses too.
I think the police (what few there are) should have orders to shoot to kill.
Mossberg or Remington pump 12 gauge with fibergalss stocks and a Glock 32 as a back-up.
At this point, only martial law and the military can deal with the situation in the city itself. And I imagine that folks in smaller towns are mostly well-armed and capable of dealing with whoever tries to mess with them.
Comment: Mossberg 590 with the ghost-ring sight and 9 round magazine.
Told my husband last night we needed to add more ammo to our disaster kit.
He said "More guns too!"
Makes me want to move back to Iowa.
It's easy to criticize the looters when you're safe and sound in your home, and not hungry or thirsty. If you were dying of thirst and had a family who was starving you'd probably loot a store too.
Covers an entire block radius :)
Some co-workers and I were discussing this earlier this morning. I half-jokingly made the comment that in the case of some kind of disaster in my area that I don't have nearly enough ammunition at my home. I now think I shouldn't have been joking when I made that statement.
THAT is why you store NON PERISHABLE items and bottled water BEFORE it happens. You can also store water for six months in containers with 8 drops of household bleach (plain type) and then capped off. I bought 5 5 gallons COLLAPSABLE containers online and in a threat they get filled up. I have a trunk of rice, beans, etc, ready to be cooked over a small charcoal stove.
It's called BEING PREPARED.
Also, I have a lot of guns to defend the castle with.
I'd probably be focusing on food and water, not plasma TVs, jewlery, booze, and racks of clothes.
Apparently, Louisiana law (and Christianity, and common sense) distinguish between people obtaining food and water during a time of disaster by any means neccesary to survive and people stealing everything not nailed down due to a sense of entitlement. I REALLY hope that a lot of these looters are shot...
Maybe they're only stealing jewelery, etc so that they can trade it for food and other basic necessities.
How would you know who was a law abiding homeowner and who was a thug seeking to loot- you could'nt exactly drop guns and ammo from a helicopter.
How many Americans actually store food and water for emergencies? I'm guessing 0.0001%. Besides, New Orleans is a pretty poor area, most of those people live in apartments, they don't have room to store supplies.
Looting a store of food, water, medicine etc..., except by a few, is not being critisized nor what is refered to here.
We're talking of people looting TV's, VCR's, etc...and that is not justifiable as needed for "survival".
A Glock 17 like mine, plus several high capacity magazines, A Mossberg 590 or A Remington Marine Magnum 870 and a Ruger 10-22 for shooting little critters..that's my plan for domestic discord armament.
You really can get all the stuff you need short of the Glock at Wal Mart. They have numerous suitable shotguns, and ammo is reasonably priced. A couple of weekends ago our area store was selling 500 round bricks of Remington 22 LR hunting ammo for $8.00. You can get cases of 12 ga shotgun shells there reasonably priced and 9mm practice ammo is $6.99 a box.
I dont have nearly enough shotgun shells or 22 LR ammo. I need to get more.
I can't convince my wife to get a gun for the house...sigh.
Or maybe they are criminals looking at the disaster as an opportunity to take high price items they didn't earn which IS the case.
That is theft. Trade your labor or something you own for food and necessities. Stealing the private property of others is wrong.
"It's easy to criticize the looters when you're safe and sound in your home, and not hungry or thirsty. If you were dying of thirst and had a family who was starving you'd probably loot a store too."
Yes, because I need a new flat screen tv to survive.
Oh, and jewelry. Don't forget about the jewelry. It's small, valuable, easy to carry, and high in protein, or so I've heard.
The situational ethics displayed on this board are disgusting.
Looters drive off with a trunk full of beer after raiding a Rite Aid Drug Store in New Orleans on Wednesday, Aug. 31, 2005. Police officers came by a short time later and stopped at the drug store which had been forced open by someone driving a fork lift truck but did little to stop the looters who were taking food from the store.
Ive always got 3-5 cases of ammo on hand for my weapons.... And when I run out of bullets I got sharp, long knives for some up close and personal work....
helped me make my mind up.
Hah! that's a friggin riot! (pun only slightly intentional.)
And no, I wouldn't loot a store in that situation, but I may be stopping a few looters with a 12 gauge and .45.
"Maybe they're only stealing jewelery, etc so that they can trade it for food and other basic necessities."
Haha too funny. If they could think ahead that well they would have been bright enough to evacuate.
Right, and the Lions are going to win the Super Bowl this year.
"Looters drive off with a trunk full of beer"
Actually beer makes sense since the water is undrinkable.
On the surface your idea has merit. There are, however, some problems with it. I would not want one of my firearms going into the hands of someone I don't know. Is this person qualified to handle the firearm? Does he or she have some sort of criminal background or mental problem that would make him or her a menace to those around them?
If those "law-abiding homeowners" are good citizens they should have already owned the firearms with which to protect their families, their property, and themselves. In this post-9/11 world everyone should be in a self-defense frame of mind. In my gun safe are a number of semi-automatic long guns, along with sufficient ammunition. The ammunition is not boxed, but is in bandoleers on stripper clips, ready to be stripped into magazines in an instant. Better safe than sorry.
When doesn't beer make sense?
But drugs to get high on....Valium,Oxycontin,Demerol, and VIAGRA?...give me a break...
50" Plasma TVs,....car stereos?....not to mention killing a police officer who tried to stop such theft?...
nope...shoot the looters..and the looting will stop...
Private property the right to it and to be safe and secure in our property and possessions is the heart of American's freedom..
Shoot the looters, hang their corpses from lamposts and place signs around their necks..."GOOD LOOOTER"
Funny how the anti personal defense,anti war,pro aborts, and right to die folks are so worried about scum bags lives
Managers of stores selling firearms and/or ammo should lock away all that merchandise as soon as it's apparent that a mega-storm is going to hit.
No, no, no -- I did not say that. I said that I could understand someone looting a grocery store for food (not that it's right), but that there is no excuse for stealing TVs, VCRs, jewelry, etc... Sheesh. Common sence -- get some!
That may be the single most idiotic statement I have read at this site. And I am included zot-bait vanity rants from DU trolls. I'm trying to come up with a comparison for how devoid of credibility that sentence is, but analogies fail me. The only thing close is an Eddie Murphy stand-up bit where his wife/girlfriend catches him cheating and he keeps saying, "Wasn't me, baby." She says, I followed you to the hotel. Saw you get out of the car and walk to the room. "Wasn't me, baby." etc., etc.
A pistol is useful for fighting your way to your rifle
Get a shotgun, and an AR15 spare parts, lots of ammo and practice, practice,practice
Take a good pistol, shotgun, and tactical carbine course.
Also putting one through the neck of a terrorist/looter/home invasion/rapist/muderer/gang banger thereby pinning him to a tree is bound to be very discouraging to his broze...
all the more reason to be a homebrewer. multiple cases plus corny kegs for just such a situation...
And leave with as much as I could carry -- or push in a cart -- of jewelry, liquor, designer clothes, TVs, etc? No way!
Wake up! Many of those thugs are just acting out the filth that has saturated their so-called "minds" during years of polluting their environment with (c)"rap" "music".