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Katrina Live Thread, Part XIII
Various ^ | 1 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/01/2005 3:46:26 PM PDT by NautiNurse

28,000 National Guard troops are deployed to the disaster areas in Mississippi, Alabama, and to Louisiana, where SWAT teams are working to combat the looters and shooters in New Orleans. Additional 1400 National Guard troops are being deployed daily.

Shootings reported at a New Orleans hospital, rescue boats, and a military helicopter, while conditions continue to deteriorate at the SuperDome amid refugee deaths and chaos. Evacuation of New Orleans continues.

House Speaker Dennis Hastert has voiced serious doubts about rebuilding New Orleans with federal funds, while assuring the people of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida that the United States Congress stands ready to help them in their time of need. New Orleans Mayor C. Ray Nagin issued a "desperate SOS."

Doctors at two desperately crippled hospitals in New Orleans called The Associated Press Thursday morning pleading for rescue, "We have been trying to call the mayor's office, we have been trying to call the governor's office ... we have tried to use any inside pressure we can. We are turning to you. Please help us," said Dr. Norman McSwain, chief of trauma surgery at Charity Hospital, the largest of two public hospitals.

The Port of New Orleans is now open to shallow draft vessels. Congress is reconvening in an emergency session. International offers to assist the U.S. have been received from Russia, Japan, Canada, France, Honduras, Germany, Venezuela, Jamaica, Australia, the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Greece, Hungary, Colombia, the Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Mexico, China, South Korea, Israel, the United Arab Emirates, NATO and the Organization of American States.

Jesse Jackson has arrived in Louisiana...

Links to various news, local and state government websites:

WLOX TV Biloxi, Gulfport, Pascagula has link to locate family and friends
2theAdvocate - Baton Rouge Includes Slidell, St. John Parish, St. Bernard Parish updates, and other locations.
NOLA.com
Inside Houma Today includes shelter and volunteer updates
WLBT.com Jackson MS
WALA Channel 4 Mobile, AL Includes links to distribution centers, Emergency Ops, etc.
Sun-Herald Gulfport MS Includes link to town by town reports
Gulfport News via Topix.net
WAFB Baton Rouge
Mobile Register via al.com
Mississippi updates via Jackson Ledger
Lafayette LA Daily Advertiser
Pensacola News Journal
St Bernard Local Government
Alabama Homeland Security Volunteers can sign up online
Alabama DOT
Alabama.gov
Louisiana Homeland Security
Louisiana State Police road closure info
State of Mississippi Website has traffic alerts, emergency contact numbers

Streaming Video:

WWL-TV (via CBS): WWLTV via CBS
WWL-TV Now via WFAA Dallas **NEW LINK**: http://www.wwltv.com/cgi-bin/bi/video/makeadplaylist.pl?title=beloint_wfaa&live=yes
WDSU-TV: http://mfile.akamai.com/12912/live/reflector:38843.asx
WPMI-TV: http://www.wpmi.com/mediacenter/default.aspx?videoId=113739
WKRG-TV: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95518
WTOK-TV Temporarily Not Live Streaming (follow the link on the home page): http://www.wtok.com/
WJTV-TV: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95563
Louisiana Statewide Katrina Network (WJBO-AM Baton Rouge): http://ccri.eonstreams.com/ccri_la_batonrouge_wjbo_am.asf
Gulf Coast Storm Network (radio): http://www.stormalert.net/main.html#
Louisiana Scanner

Related FR Threads:

FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread FReeper Check In thread
Discussion Thread - Hurricane Katrina - What Went Wrong?!?
Post Hurricane Katrina IMAGES Here
Looting Begins In New Orleans
Hurricane Katrina HOUSING Thread
Martial Law Declared in New Orleans


Due to the number of requests to assist, the following list of some charities is provided.
This is not intended as an endorsement for any of the charities.

www.redcross.org or 1-800 HELP NOW - note: website is slow, and lines are busy
Salvation Army - 1-800-SAL-ARMY or Salvation Army currently looking for in-state volunteers - (888)363-2769
Operation Blessing: (800) 436-6348.
America's Second Harvest: (800) 344-8070.
Catholic Charities USA: (800) 919-9338, or www.catholiccharitiesusa.org.
Christian Reformed World Relief Committee: (800) 848-5818.
Church World Service: (800) 297-1516 or online at www.churchworldservice. org.
Lutheran Disaster Response: (800) 638-3522.
Nazarene Disaster Response: (888) 256-5886.
Presbyterian Disaster Assistance: (800) 872-3283.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is accepting donations at its 3,800 stores and Web site, www.walmart.com.
National Black Home Educators Resource Association http://www.nbhera.org/

Previous Threads:
Katrina Live Thread, Party XII
Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Katrina Live Thread, Part IX
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm 12



TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Florida; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: aftermath; hurricane; katrina; tropical
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To: plain talk

If the President was the man you want I wouldn't respect him.

If you want someone that orchestrates fake PR go find Bill Clinton. he's a master at arranging rocks for ceremonial pictures.


5,351 posted on 09/02/2005 2:01:16 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Ah, how sweet)
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To: DCPatriot

I wish I thought you were right....but this is lame duck time.

Bush is going down.


5,352 posted on 09/02/2005 2:01:24 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Howlin

Agreed - hell, I went without for 8 days in the blizzard of 1976 - shows my age :( - no one could get in or out (and I had a newborn baby). Husband was 100 miles away. The skiers ate and drank themselves to oblivion across the street at the ski resort and we just hunkered down and worked together. Took the Army Corps of Engineers to get the valley clear, and we have some of the best snow removal equipment available. Always bought supplies in bulk, don't live near a supermarket. Funny thing was, tho', when we finally got to go shopping, there were 2 guys on either side of my checkout line, both loaded with 2 cases of beer (we we warned about another storm coming). I jokingly asked "are you stocking up for the next one?" He answered: "Yeah, especially if I have to spend the next 8 days with the old lady." Couldn't believe it!


5,353 posted on 09/02/2005 2:01:26 PM PDT by nuclady
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To: Conservababe

"if there are problems, we will fix them". that's the phrase he spoke that the media is focusing on.


5,355 posted on 09/02/2005 2:01:28 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview
I am really getting mad now, I'm going to try and find charities that are only focusing on the Mississippi and Alabama relief efforts. These Louisiana people are ungrateful, their elected officials are idiots, their police are cowards, their own populace looting and shooting up the relief efforts - forget it.

I am doing exactly the same thing. These fools haven't seen the half of their problems...rebuilding will take a long, long time and they are burning their bridges.

5,356 posted on 09/02/2005 2:01:40 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: sissyjane

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1475714/posts


5,357 posted on 09/02/2005 2:02:08 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

The problem is, you won't ever get them to admit they are incompetent...

AND, you will never, ever get the MSM to point it out to them...not politically correct.


5,358 posted on 09/02/2005 2:02:09 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: sissyjane

Beats me! Actually, I think they know. Chrissy, Wolfie, etc., are trying to make Bush look bad but I hope this is going to backfire on them.


5,359 posted on 09/02/2005 2:02:23 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: oceanview

did you hear the CA legislature stated they thought they were exempt from the EPA? they dont want the price to fall because they have been spending that 7.25% sales tax on gas.


5,360 posted on 09/02/2005 2:02:24 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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This has most likely been asked & answered, but I can't keep up with all the threads on NO/LA and have not seen this as a news item.

Since Miss Mary has declared open season on looters by the US military, has martial law been declared at the federal level for either NO or LA? If so, just NO? LA? All hurricane affected states?

Thanks.


5,361 posted on 09/02/2005 2:03:04 PM PDT by MIsunshine
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To: plain talk
What he did today should have been done Wednesday

I got flamed for saying he should have gotten off Air Force One on his way back to Washington and taken a quick preliminary chopper tour. Now he's behind the story.

5,362 posted on 09/02/2005 2:03:07 PM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: nicmarlo

I've been wondering something. This is showing my conservative bias (anti-government bureaucracy)...but could some of this be due to the EXTRA layers of red tape after FEMA became part of Homeland Security?


5,363 posted on 09/02/2005 2:03:09 PM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: sissyjane
Why don't they know what I know about preparedness etc.??

You really can't prepare for a flood. The only thing you can do is get away from it.

That the local government in NO evacuated their families, but not their citizens, is criminal. (Of course, that's MHO)

5,364 posted on 09/02/2005 2:03:21 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: HiJinx

He left the City of Los Angeles for a position in the federal government...for all I know he is in this operation.


5,365 posted on 09/02/2005 2:03:35 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: NonValueAdded

I live on long island. It cannot be evacuated, no chance, impossible. the best our hurricane plans calls for is to move people who live within 5 miles of the south shore, north. where they would put us, I don't know.


5,366 posted on 09/02/2005 2:03:43 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: NautiNurse

Jesse Jackson has arrived. I feel better already. Not.


5,367 posted on 09/02/2005 2:03:46 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Howlin
Bush is going down.

Et tu, Howlin?

And it's "President" Bush please? ;^)

5,368 posted on 09/02/2005 2:04:01 PM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: nuclady; Peach

Somebody put up a reminder last night that THOUSANDS of people died in France from THE HEAT!!!!


5,369 posted on 09/02/2005 2:04:06 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Patriot from Philly

I have gotten really discouraged about Bush's "bad" public relations...

I have to believe that he just tells them that he doesn't want any "Well "i" have done this, "i" have done that"...he just doesn't toot his horn...

And when the dems, and MSM go after him...he doesn't care.


5,370 posted on 09/02/2005 2:04:10 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: colorado tanker

I didn't flame you over it, I said he should stop in Houston and get in Marine 1 and fly down there.


5,371 posted on 09/02/2005 2:04:14 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: No Blue States
I think hearing the Helicopters are calming the crowds.

Just got back online and watching TV. Looks like things are picking up. I bet you are right about the helicopters...it would be a sweet sound. I imagine a lot of these people are in shock.
5,372 posted on 09/02/2005 2:04:24 PM PDT by hummingbird (21st Century Newsreporting - "Don't get me started!")
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To: Howlin
Wolf Blitzer: "People are saying that if this had happened in a predominantly white area, the response would have been faster."

Answer: "Possibly. It would depend on whether they shot at their rescuers."

5,373 posted on 09/02/2005 2:04:43 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: colorado tanker
I got flamed for saying he should have gotten off Air Force One on his way back to Washington and taken a quick preliminary chopper tour. Now he's behind the story.

How long would it have been till the first story came out that Bush in the airspace kept people on their rooftop and they died?

5,374 posted on 09/02/2005 2:04:49 PM PDT by WoodstockCat (Gitmo? Let them eat Pork!)
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To: nicmarlo

Agreed. :-)


5,375 posted on 09/02/2005 2:04:50 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: BurbankKarl

Isn't that John ??? the guy who once met Bin Ladden?


5,376 posted on 09/02/2005 2:04:54 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: pitinkie

Agreed, but not sure I blame them at this point for reaching out to the feds, watching the hellhole their city has become thanks to their local government.


5,377 posted on 09/02/2005 2:04:55 PM PDT by cgk (We'll have to deal w/ the networks. One way to do that is to drain the swamp they live in - Rumsfeld)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

you could stock a boat!


5,378 posted on 09/02/2005 2:05:16 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: Txsleuth

Is it Karl Rove or Andy Card??? I agree his handlers are giving bad advice.


5,379 posted on 09/02/2005 2:05:43 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: All

Sec. Rice on Fox


5,380 posted on 09/02/2005 2:05:44 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (In Tampa Bay praying for all In Katrina's path.)
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To: DCPatriot

I agree. Frist's move was a shot across the bow to the RATS to STFU.


5,381 posted on 09/02/2005 2:05:46 PM PDT by mwl1
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To: Born in a Rage


Love the way you twisted that around. Scientologists like Cruise and his ilk are self-serving...like the majority of the media, they're way of "helping" would be to accuse the Pres. Bush of not being responsive.


5,382 posted on 09/02/2005 2:06:04 PM PDT by KakaduDreamer
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To: nuclady

With all due respect, this isn't a blizzard. Homes are flooded and knocked down. The water is contaminated with chemicals, sewage, and dead bodies. There is no store to shop at in a couple of days where the victims can giggle together and make little jokes about 'old ladies'. The old ladies are dead. The cashiers have no water for their babies and are trying to survive in a state of anarchy. Do you see the difference?


5,383 posted on 09/02/2005 2:06:06 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: Soul Seeker

It's not only PR. It's leadership. There's a vacuum there which is affecting morale. Someone, anyone needs to step up and rally the troops over there. Bush is the best person to do that. And he's getting engaged now which is good.


5,384 posted on 09/02/2005 2:06:31 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: NonValueAdded

Very true for any disaster is the 72 hours plan. Even up here in snowstorm country, kids and adults are reminded what they should have on hand or in the car.

Some sadly, for whatever reason...think they can beat the odds on their own.


5,385 posted on 09/02/2005 2:07:10 PM PDT by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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To: colorado tanker

that would not have changed one thing regarding the media spin on this.


5,386 posted on 09/02/2005 2:07:36 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Howlin

My post to you #5290....didn't read like I said it in my head...

It came off like I am discouraged with YOU...I didn't mean that...

I meant that I am getting discrouraged, ALSO!

I am so sorry...


5,387 posted on 09/02/2005 2:07:43 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Soul Seeker

Clinton's reactions during H.Floyd, citing responsibility is on the local gov't by issuing a state of emergency....

CHRISTCHURCH, New Zealand (AP) - Calling Hurricane Floyd ''one of the most serious hurricanes ever to threaten the United States,'' President Clinton issued disaster declarations for Florida and Georgia in anticipation of the destruction the storm may wreak on the southeastern U.S. coast.

The president issued the declarations Wednesday morning before leaving Queenstown for Christchurch for a state visit with New Zealand Prime Minister Jane Shipley. He planned to return home immediately after that visit to oversee emergency efforts for the storm, which he called ''one of the most serious hurricanes ever to threaten the United States, if the predictions of its force and scope hold true.''

''I ask all of you here to remember my fellow Americans,'' Clinton said. ''I am going to fly home, and we'll make the best job of it that we can.''

The early declaration ''enables state and local governments to get equipment and other things ... in place to begin recovery efforts at the earliest possible moment,'' White House spokesman Barry Toiv said in Washington.

Clinton spoke twice Wednesday with James Lee Witt, the director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, to keep abreast of Hurricane Floyd's progress. He also consulted with Vice President Al Gore.

Witt and Gore placed a conference call late Friday afternoon to the governors and other state officials of Florida, Georgia, North Carolina and South Carolina to give them the most up-to-date forecast data on Floyd's likely path, a White House official said.


5,388 posted on 09/02/2005 2:07:45 PM PDT by dcgard
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To: DCPatriot

Whatever Frist's intentions, we've all seen Congress in action. It is extremely unlikely the message out of the hearings will be centered on Blanco and the Mayor. It'll end up being worse then the 9-11 hearings which were largely political attacks on either side, though greatly more used against the Bush Administration.

Frist is not being given credit or praise because of past performances with Congressional Hearings. More harm than good, mostly political which we do NOT have any interest in.


5,389 posted on 09/02/2005 2:07:59 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Ah, how sweet)
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To: colorado tanker

You were right on target. Bush was slow on the draw but I think it took a bit for everyone to realize this was not an "Andrew" but a "9/11".


5,390 posted on 09/02/2005 2:08:29 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: BurbankKarl
This has probably already been posted... Still worth a look.
5,391 posted on 09/02/2005 2:08:43 PM PDT by PureSolace (God save us all.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

John Miller, went to the FBI Public Information Office


5,392 posted on 09/02/2005 2:08:54 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: Howlin

Bush isn't going "down".


5,393 posted on 09/02/2005 2:08:59 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Ah, how sweet)
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To: Howlin

Oh come on. You are immensely bright and know better than predicting that Bush will suffer politically.

People will judge by the results of this effort, not the day to day hiccups, difficult as they may be.

A presidential speech or address to Congress can readily turn public opinion. As a whole, the American people are very reasonable and fair.

This makes the Roberts confirmation easier, as well.


5,394 posted on 09/02/2005 2:09:06 PM PDT by mwl1
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To: KakaduDreamer; All

Anyone else need a laugh?

Go here:

http://members.aol.com/celebritysmack/private/cruiseani.gif


5,395 posted on 09/02/2005 2:09:11 PM PDT by cgk (We'll have to deal w/ the networks. One way to do that is to drain the swamp they live in - Rumsfeld)
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To: EBH

I was a route 128 commuter during the blizzards of the late 1970's. I was fortunate but some of my coworkers were stranded on the highway. Everyone put together an emergency kit for their car trunk after that. I'll bet not 1 in 50 does that now.


5,396 posted on 09/02/2005 2:09:16 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: Txsleuth

It went right over my head anyway!


5,397 posted on 09/02/2005 2:09:18 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Warren_Piece
Here's Cat 3's and higher...I'll get you 1's and 2's shortly.
5,398 posted on 09/02/2005 2:09:25 PM PDT by WxMan2000
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To: All

Just read that some Republicans are asking the President to put Rudy in charge of overseeing this... personally... I think that's a great idea!


5,399 posted on 09/02/2005 2:09:55 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: DCPatriot

I know.....I know......I'm having a bad day.


5,400 posted on 09/02/2005 2:09:56 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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