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Germans Respond to 'Katrina' Controversy
Spiegel Online ^ | September 1, 2005 | German Readers

Posted on 09/01/2005 5:00:41 PM PDT by Mon

Remarks by German Minister of the Environment Jürgen Tritten were not well received by many Americans who wrote in to let us know. Now, we give our German readers the chance to respond. We've posted a selection here.

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,372584,00.html These Letters were in response to letters from American readers you can see at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1475176/posts


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: katrina
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1 posted on 09/01/2005 5:00:42 PM PDT by Mon
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To: Mon
My full compassion goes to the victims and also deep thanks for liberating Europe in WW II. But what the hell has it do with the reasons for climate change? Instead of wasting the last oil, causing deaths all over the world by increased hurricanes and flooding, instead of praying to middle-aged-gods and instead of dividing the world by the right and left, good and bad, why don't you sell your SUVs and try to intellectually enter the 21st century. - D. Mueller, Germany

hahaha, this one's a democrat (what's that word in German?).

2 posted on 09/01/2005 5:11:07 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: Mon

I really couldn't care less what the Euro-trash think. As for the Germans, they were responsible for screwing up a considerable part of the 20th century and have no business lecturing anybody on anything. A pox on them.


3 posted on 09/01/2005 5:12:17 PM PDT by Ikemeister
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To: Mon
Dear Mr. Trittin, I read your comments in regards to the natural catastrophe in the American South with dismay, anger and outrage. I neither understand nor find justifiable how you drew these conclusions. At a time when the American people need our help and support, you have nothing better to do that to point your finger and say "you got what you deserved." This is unbelievable and incomprehensible. You have failed me. Not just because of the deposit you imposed on cans and the fact that carbon dioxide emissions are increasing because you're shutting down nuclear power plants and installing thousands of economically senseless windmills. Even worse is the fact that you're damaging our reputation in the world. But at least the end is near. Elections will be held in three weeks and life will start get better for the German people. - Patrick Baumann, Pulheim

This one's a Republican.

4 posted on 09/01/2005 5:13:41 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: ozarkgirl

Is called "ein Liberaler or Demokrat" but it sounds more like a "Gruener" (green one, green party) :)


5 posted on 09/01/2005 5:14:02 PM PDT by Mon
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To: ozarkgirl

My family in Germany is pretty p....d off at Trittin, they are also not voting Schroeder anymore hhehehee.


6 posted on 09/01/2005 5:15:35 PM PDT by Mon
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To: ozarkgirl

Yeah right, Germans lecturing Americans concerning SUVs.

Did they ever establish politically correct speed limits on the Autobahns for the sake of the children?

I remember driving through some real trashy air in a lot of places over there. East Germany was even worse I read, but never saw.


7 posted on 09/01/2005 5:15:47 PM PDT by Radix (FEMA's plan, move them from the Superdome to the Astrodome. Is that a great plan or what?)
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To: Ikemeister

My family lives in Germany, my sister is running around like a headless chicken trying to donate. Not even the "Amerikahaus" was set up as of today to take in donation, absolut crap! The German Red Cross is ready to go but wasn't advised yet with exact places etc. (we all know they can't just fly in). I can't wait for the elections in three weeks, I hope things change!


8 posted on 09/01/2005 5:18:09 PM PDT by Mon
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To: Mon
I like demokraut.

PS I am half German do don't get too mad.
9 posted on 09/01/2005 5:18:32 PM PDT by mountainlyons
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To: Radix
Did they ever establish politically correct speed limits on the Autobahns for the sake of the children?

Are there a lot of children on the Autobahn?

I just figured it was highway all the way, no residential.

10 posted on 09/01/2005 5:19:18 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: mountainlyons

I have a good sense of humor haha, also I am American, I took the citizenship three years ago and d..n proud of it! :)


11 posted on 09/01/2005 5:19:25 PM PDT by Mon
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To: ozarkgirl

ROFL only Highway :)


12 posted on 09/01/2005 5:19:51 PM PDT by Mon
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To: ozarkgirl

National Socialist?


13 posted on 09/01/2005 5:21:25 PM PDT by Arkie2 (No, we cannot make cheese as stinky as the French.)
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To: ozarkgirl
hahaha, this one's a democrat (what's that word in German?).

Schweinhund?

14 posted on 09/01/2005 5:23:02 PM PDT by stboz
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To: Mon

A fellow I used to talk to wrote me that Germans really like Americans. They just do not like our president. Sometime after that I made mention of our opinion of the French and haven't heard from him since.


15 posted on 09/01/2005 5:23:05 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy (They're coming to take me away.....)
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To: stboz

Scheisskopf?


16 posted on 09/01/2005 5:27:46 PM PDT by Noumenon (Activist judges - out of touch, out of tune, but not out of reach.)
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To: Mon
also I am American, I took the citizenship three years ago and d..n proud of it! :)

A belated WELCOME TO AMERICA!!!

I am proud to see you proclaim yourself as an American! Please don't give me that "German American", "Mexican American", "African American" crap.

If you are an American, that's good enough for me.

17 posted on 09/01/2005 5:28:33 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: Mon

does anyone have a link to the orignal comments


18 posted on 09/01/2005 5:28:34 PM PDT by minus_273
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To: HungarianGypsy

Yes, most really like the people and the country, but hate Bush. I read the news over there and it's kind of no wonder, because they are mostly left news and they don't get to hear too much else. Yes we learn English in school, but if you don't keep it up it's gone and most can't read english news etc. to find out more. I always tell my Mom over the phone what is going on, what friends stationed in Iraq tell us etc. and she loves it :)


19 posted on 09/01/2005 5:28:40 PM PDT by Mon
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To: Noumenon

That is more to the point.


20 posted on 09/01/2005 5:29:00 PM PDT by stboz
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To: Noumenon

haaaaa


21 posted on 09/01/2005 5:29:05 PM PDT by Mon
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To: ozarkgirl

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ....and thanks :)


22 posted on 09/01/2005 5:29:52 PM PDT by Mon
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To: HungarianGypsy

"Und es heist.......boom, boom......Erika!"


23 posted on 09/01/2005 5:30:15 PM PDT by katya8
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To: ozarkgirl

**But at least the end is near. Elections will be held in three weeks and life will start get better for the German people. - Patrick Baumann, Pulheim**

From his keyboard to Gods ears.


24 posted on 09/01/2005 5:30:42 PM PDT by Sometimes A River ("The leaves have broken on Lake Ponktran" - WKAT 1360 AM Miami Newsreader)
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To: minus_273
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,372584,00.html

These Letters were in response to letters from American readers you can see at

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1475176/posts
25 posted on 09/01/2005 5:31:25 PM PDT by Mon
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To: Mon
original remarks
26 posted on 09/01/2005 5:34:19 PM PDT by minus_273
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To: minus_273

Thanks, I don't know how to do that :) I hardly ever post


27 posted on 09/01/2005 5:35:48 PM PDT by Mon
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To: Mon
Jürgen Tritten doesn't speak for all Germans anymore than Dennis Kucinich speaks for all Americans.
28 posted on 09/01/2005 5:36:53 PM PDT by OESY
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To: Radix
" Yeah right, Germans lecturing Americans concerning SUVs."

This from the original Euro Stomp-and-Tromp School of Fuel Management. Anyone who has been to Europe has to be amazed at the burn-and-brake mentality of the Europeans. They don't burn as much gas because they live on a cute little toadstool that a person could walk across in half an hour. And now they want virtue points for living in a dinky land.

AND, in France they STILL sell leaded fuel at the pump. Those HDI and SDI deisels are kinda cool, but until 2 years ago, they were outlawed here. Why were they outlawed? ---because they couldn't pass US emissions standards!!!!

29 posted on 09/01/2005 5:40:16 PM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: minus_273

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,372425,00.html


30 posted on 09/01/2005 5:41:22 PM PDT by Mon
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To: OESY

Absolutely


31 posted on 09/01/2005 5:41:45 PM PDT by Mon
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To: ozarkgirl

Belongs to the SPD (Socialist Democrat Party) - Schroeder's Party.


32 posted on 09/01/2005 5:41:50 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: ozarkgirl

They call those CDU (Christian Democtratic Union)


33 posted on 09/01/2005 5:42:58 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: cookcounty
They don't burn as much gas because they live on a cute little toadstool that a person could walk across in half an hour.

That is an excellent point. I saw something on TV once where they put all of Europe in Texas (grabbed the map and pulled it over). It's way more tiny than we are (fits in one of 50 states!).

Could we possibly take an equivalent size and see how much gas is used and how much pollution is output?

34 posted on 09/01/2005 5:45:24 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: ozarkgirl
"Instead of wasting the last oil, causing deaths all over the world by increased hurricanes and flooding, instead of praying to middle-aged-gods and instead of dividing the world by the right and left, good and bad, why don't you sell your SUVs and try to intellectually enter the 21st century. - D. Mueller, Germany"..."hahaha, this one's a democrat:

(Q) "what's that word in German?."

(A) NAZI.

35 posted on 09/01/2005 5:45:24 PM PDT by norton
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To: ozarkgirl

>>hahaha, this one's a democrat (what's that word in German?)<<

Dumbkopf? (I think I spelled it right)?


36 posted on 09/01/2005 5:52:35 PM PDT by SerpentDove (In the shadow of the Almighty.)
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"...why don't you sell your SUVs and try to intellectually enter the 21st century.(sic)"

First, Herr Mueller, we use question marks at the end of interrogatories.

Second, let's review the following "steps to the 21st century" shall we?

Mercedes Benz Gelandewagen G500, ave 13 mpg; the VW Toureg mit W-12 zylinder engine, ave 14mpg (for the 8 cyl; no data for the 12 yet); the M-B ML500, ave 15mpg; the BMW X5, ave 15mpg; the 750L 12 cyl sedan, ave 15mpg; Mercedes Maybach 12 cyl, ave 12 mpg; to name a few.

All German, all less than frugal. Imagine the mileage on the Autobahn! Maybe we should just sell the inefficient German SUVs!! LOL! What was your point again, my Eurotrash friend?


To their credit, VW does offer some extraordinarily efficient TDI Diesels, but the liberals of our country will not let us "enter the 21st century" using them, because they are afraid of Diesel emissions.


37 posted on 09/01/2005 6:00:07 PM PDT by SpinyNorman (The ACLU empowers terrorists and criminals, weakens America, and degrades our society.)
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To: Mon

If Germany is so concerned, they can send us 10,000,000 bicycles as foreign aid.


38 posted on 09/01/2005 6:00:10 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (Proudly confusing editors and readers since 1981!)
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"I saw something on TV once where they put all of Europe in Texas (grabbed the map and pulled it over). It's way more tiny than we are (fits in one of 50 states!)."

You might want to do your own research on that.

I used to live in Europe, and did some driving. From Where I lived in Southern Germany, to a place in Southern Italy was 950 miles.

I will grant you the scale is smaller. But you can NOT fit Europe into Texas.

Texas is about 700 sq. kilometers.
Germany is about 347 square kilometers.
France is about 547 square kilometers.

So you see just these two alone, exceed the size of Texas.


39 posted on 09/01/2005 6:01:13 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker

how do you say yeehaw in french and german.

french: haw de yee?
german: some 40 letter long word


40 posted on 09/01/2005 6:04:05 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: cookcounty

"Those HDI and SDI deisels are kinda cool, but until 2 years ago, they were outlawed here. Why were they outlawed? ---because they couldn't pass US emissions standards!!!!"

Well, not to defend the Eurosocialists, but you are partly right. Yes, they couldn't pass 2004 CALIFORNIA emission standards (enforced in CA and the Northeast), but that is because European Diesel fuel is of much higher quality than ours, both in cetane rating and low sulfur. The rest of the country can still get Diesels (lucky bastards!). We will have ultra low sulfur Diesel by the end of 2006, but it will still probably be low cetane.

At any rate, the current crop of European Diesels should be available in the American socialist states when this occurs.

I can hardly wait! There is a Jeep Liberty CDI with my name on it somewhere!


41 posted on 09/01/2005 6:09:17 PM PDT by SpinyNorman (The ACLU empowers terrorists and criminals, weakens America, and degrades our society.)
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To: truth_seeker

Texas 269,000 square miles. and yes most all of Europe fits in it.

Europe is tiny.


42 posted on 09/01/2005 6:10:19 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (Rock the pews, Baby)
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To: truth_seeker

Sorry, Texas not 700 sq km. Try 419,062.4 sq km. Bigger than Germany, France and a few others combined.


43 posted on 09/01/2005 6:13:09 PM PDT by landman7 (Old 1SG)
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To: truth_seeker
"I saw something on TV once where they put all of Europe in Texas (grabbed the map and pulled it over). It's way more tiny than we are (fits in one of 50 states!)." You might want to do your own research on that.

Perhaps I should. That world map gets way smaller at the poles than in the middle where the US is stretched out.

Thank goodness not all of us just watch TV. Some of us are "truth seekers". :^) I believe it's Spiff's tagline that says "Never believe what you think".

44 posted on 09/01/2005 6:17:38 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: TexanToTheCore; truth_seeker

45 posted on 09/01/2005 6:21:32 PM PDT by wolicy_ponk (If we're not the mainstream, how come we nearly control all three branches of Government?)
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To: SerpentDove; stboz; Noumenon
Dumbkopf?

Finally, a word I can understand. I took two years of German in high school. I think Noumenon said a bad word.

46 posted on 09/01/2005 6:29:08 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: ozarkgirl
"Instead of wasting the last oil, causing deaths all over the world by increased hurricanes and flooding,"


D. Mueller says they prefer to do it the old fashioned way.

Piling millions into GAS chambers.

Much more "environmentally friendly"

Nazis preferred "green" when they didn't wear "brown-shirts"
47 posted on 09/01/2005 6:42:49 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: Mon

don't the SUV's have an internal combustion engine like all other cars and trucks on the roads


48 posted on 09/01/2005 7:09:30 PM PDT by vigilante2 (I'm part of the right wing conspiracy)
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To: The Red Zone
"german: some 40 letter long word:"

gazuneflaggenhageanvist!
49 posted on 09/01/2005 7:12:17 PM PDT by minus_273
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To: truth_seeker

France + Netherlands + Denmark + Belgium...

is about 13,900 square miles SMALLER than Texas...


50 posted on 09/01/2005 8:17:43 PM PDT by muffaletaman
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