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Relief Workers Confront Urban Warfare
CNN ^ | 9/1/05 | CNN

Posted on 09/01/2005 5:58:28 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- Nightfall and rising violence threatened to further disrupt relief efforts Thursday in New Orleans as authorities rescued residents still trapped in the flooded city and evacuated thousands of others living among corpses and human waste.

The director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Michael Brown, said his agency was attempting to work "under conditions of urban warfare."

"Please don't send the National Guard," he said. "Send someone with a bullhorn outside the place that can talk to these people first."

He described scenes of lawlessness and desperation, with people simply dragging corpses into corners.

"They have quite a few people running around here with guns," he said. "You got these young teenage boys running around up here raping these girls."

"There are multiple people dying at the convention center," Lawrence said. "There was an old woman, dead in a wheelchair with a blanket draped over her, pushed up against a wall. Horrible, horrible conditions.

"We saw a man who went into a seizure, literally dying right in front of us."

Nagin said that "the convention center is unsanitary and unsafe and we are running out of supplies for [15,000 to 20,000] people."

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: katrina; neworleans; urban; urbanwarfare
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The finger pointing about preparation and lack of planning will be like a tsunami. You can start with the mayor. It is inexcusable that rapes and murderers and looting took place at this scale. We have shown the world what the "ugly American" really is.
1 posted on 09/01/2005 5:58:29 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
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"They have quite a few people running around here with guns," he said. "You got these young teenage boys running around up here raping these girls."

...yeah, maybe bullhorns will stop them.


Doogle
2 posted on 09/01/2005 6:01:43 PM PDT by Doogle (8th AF...4077thTFW....408MMS....Ubon Thailand "69"..Night Line Delivery ..AMMO)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
"Please don't send the National Guard," he said. "Send someone with a bullhorn outside the place that can talk to these people first."
Well, National Guard's M-16's could be appointed bullhorns.
3 posted on 09/01/2005 6:02:06 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

Looking for pictures of relief workers doing their jobs. Please direct me.


4 posted on 09/01/2005 6:02:23 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
"They have quite a few people running around here with guns," he said. "You got these young teenage boys running around up here raping these girls."

This was on CNN???? They must have forgotten to mention that these were oppressed people just meeting basic human needs.

5 posted on 09/01/2005 6:03:31 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: Doogle

This mayor could not act more stupid if he tried.

Guardsmen with bullhorn: NOW HEAR THIS>: Y"ALL STOP THAT RAPE RIGHT NOW!

Good call mayor. Maybe your RAT friends think that is a cool idea.


6 posted on 09/01/2005 6:04:52 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: GSlob

>> Well, National Guard's M-16's could be appointed bullhorns<<

Amen!!!!!!!!!!!


7 posted on 09/01/2005 6:05:02 PM PDT by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: GSlob

send in the bullhorn first. announce in the streets everyone has 1 hour to be on the street to be picked up(would have to have buses to pick them up)anyone left after the buses have picked them up would be shot, hung than spit on.


8 posted on 09/01/2005 6:05:42 PM PDT by rineaux (hardcore)
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To: bnelson44
Looking for pictures of relief workers doing their jobs. Please direct me.

We all remember that photo of the New Orleans policemen in full dress looting the stores. The gangster police officers have contributed to the rapes and murders by showing the thugs that even the policemen are their "brothers".

9 posted on 09/01/2005 6:07:10 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

What are you talking about. At the very most, they have shown the world what the Ugly Democrat looks like.


10 posted on 09/01/2005 6:07:32 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

That the government is being blamed by the usual suspects for an act of Mother nature, and the lawless behavior of thugs is the direct result of the campaign the left has been waging since the 2000 election. They have fanned the flames of hatred and now NO is reaping this horrific harvest. I am so appalled at the media for continuing this anti Bush campaign even while people are suffering and dying there. THIS is NO ONE"S FAULT! It is a natural disaster unlike any before!


11 posted on 09/01/2005 6:07:37 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftist=Anti American!)
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To: GSlob
"Please don't send the National Guard," he said. "Send someone with a bullhorn outside the place that can talk to these people first."

Did the FEMA director really say that?
12 posted on 09/01/2005 6:07:38 PM PDT by uncitizen
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anybody have a link to the photo of the policemen looting?


13 posted on 09/01/2005 6:08:15 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: rineaux

One does not preclude another. And shooting ought to be limited to those whose behavior warrants it ["he needed killin'"], not merely left behind after the buses.


14 posted on 09/01/2005 6:09:19 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: faithincowboys

I'll buy that.


15 posted on 09/01/2005 6:09:47 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

Anyone who violates martial law should be shot, preferably in the face and hung like a 17th century pirate, as a warning to the others. Seriously. This cannot be tolerated.


16 posted on 09/01/2005 6:10:38 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

Scanner: "Suspects shooting at power workers..."


17 posted on 09/01/2005 6:12:04 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

I just checked MapQuest and it's about a 25 mile walk from New Orleans to Carlisle.

Did any people just walk out of the city after the flood and find someone in a city or town further north with some compassion and help get their lives started again?

That's what I think I would have done with my family, given the situation I see.


18 posted on 09/01/2005 6:12:49 PM PDT by ktupper
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To: madprof98
This was on CNN???? They must have forgotten to mention that these were oppressed people just meeting basic human needs.

Simply "undocumented shoppers". Simple as that.

19 posted on 09/01/2005 6:13:34 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: GSlob



they all must be taken out of the city to protect the future of it. either way, once it is under control, those who committed some awful crimes will be coming to a City near you. I'm sure they were crimminals before the storm.

it is a horrible mess.


20 posted on 09/01/2005 6:14:50 PM PDT by rineaux (hardcore)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
"Please don't send the National Guard," he said. "Send someone with a bullhorn outside the place that can talk to these people first."

This was actually said by some old guy, a civilian who said he was former military, who was interviewed outside the convention center. He was not an official, as this piece makes it sound.

21 posted on 09/01/2005 6:16:45 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: rineaux
"send in the bullhorn first. announce in the streets everyone has 1 hour to be on the street to be picked up(would have to have buses to pick them up)anyone left after the buses have picked them up would be shot, hung than spit on."

Good plan.

Some of the thugs are loving this opportunity. They never felt so powerful, and would probably prefer that they be permitted to take over and rule by might makes right for the duration of their miserable lives.

22 posted on 09/01/2005 6:19:23 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: ladyinred
That the government is being blamed by the usual suspects for an act of Mother nature

Rudi Guliani would not have let this happen, nor would the mayors of most American cities.

A key job of the mayor is to know his city's agencies and departments--it is obvious from the photo of the policemen looting that the mayor had a bunch of gangsters in his police force.

On top of that, he did not deploy his policemen properly. The trash haulers, the firemen, the engineeers, and tons of others could have done search and rescue. He SHOULD have had his police force doing 100% security from the get go.

Also, this mayor knew New Orleans was a crime ridden city with gangs of thugs that infested the place. He should have known that looting and violence would break out immediately since the city is such a cesspool anyway.

Put "Mother Nature" aside..............this catastrophe has a lot to do with government. It is inept city and state government for sure. It is also the fact the USA, including under George Bush, spends the national treasury on global welfare before it makes sure that the USA has all its i's dotted and t's crossed. Becuase America does not take care of itself, the blame is both nationally as well as regional (state) and city.

I strongly disagree. This is absolutely a government problem and a leadership (lack of) problem.

23 posted on 09/01/2005 6:19:45 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: GSlob

Well, if a receiver is a firearm, then why not designate a firearm a bullhorn?


24 posted on 09/01/2005 6:20:29 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Do you know Landru, Brother?)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

I heard that some policemen were possibly getting some boxes of ammunition off the shelves before looters could get to them. Could it be that people have misunderstood the photo you referenced?


25 posted on 09/01/2005 6:22:52 PM PDT by Let_It_Be_So
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American

we must prepare ourselves for the next crisis in a major City. I fear the next gangsta would want to out due the new orleans scum.

La riots looking like a misunderstanding compared to this.


26 posted on 09/01/2005 6:23:49 PM PDT by rineaux (hardcore)
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""Please don't send the National Guard," he said. "Send someone with a bullhorn outside the place that can talk to these people first."



BROWN SAID THIS????? NO WAY!!


27 posted on 09/01/2005 6:24:02 PM PDT by maineman
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send someone with a bullhorn to talk to these people

LMAO, yep, nod nod wink wink these urban maniacs are going to stop looting just like that as soon as they hear someone with a bullhorn talking to them. LMAO! IMO, send someone with an ak47, shoot to kill, that will get their attention. Today I heard someone on talk radio describe the looters as "undocumented shoppers", gotta luv it!

28 posted on 09/01/2005 6:25:39 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (I'm not afraid to say out loud what the rest of you are afraid to admit.)
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To: Hank Rearden

Undocumented shoppers -- looting the merchandise Americans don't want to loot


29 posted on 09/01/2005 6:25:48 PM PDT by Ruddles (o])
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Damn right. They did not want to evacuate. They wanted to stay behind to loot and roam the streets with their thug buddies. The scum is in seventh heaven. They LOVE this. They can't wait for nightfall so the rapes can go on........actually, from the reports, it looks like they are raping girls in broad daylight in crowded places. There may even be a few more diamonds laying around in the jewelry stores.

This is dress rehearsal for the day when the Congress takes away 2nd Ammendment rights. Just wait--the RATs will say guns should be outlawed since the gangsters took over the city.


30 posted on 09/01/2005 6:26:40 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Why not? It surely could broadcast messages, and very effectively.


31 posted on 09/01/2005 6:26:58 PM PDT by GSlob
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He SHOULD have had his police force doing 100% security from the get go.

From this link: Family escapes storm, worries for friends

Carr said he has remained in contact via the Internet with friends in New Orleans, many of them police and rescue workers.

"A lot of policemen are dead," Carr said. "They sent the second shift home Sunday night and told them to just come back for the regular shift the next day. The officers were text messaging that they were trapped in their homes."

32 posted on 09/01/2005 6:28:37 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: ktupper
Did any people just walk out of the city after the flood and find someone in a city or town further north with some compassion and help get their lives started again? That's what I think I would have done with my family, given the situation I see.

That would have been the normal thing to do! These are not normal people.........

33 posted on 09/01/2005 6:28:46 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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To: maineman

No, it was an "undocumented shopper" at the Superdome who said that.


34 posted on 09/01/2005 6:28:57 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

"We have shown the world what the "ugly American" really is."

And that's not goingin to help donations.


35 posted on 09/01/2005 6:29:23 PM PDT by keats5
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To: DJ MacWoW

"A lot of policemen are dead".

He did not give details as to why. From what? Thugs?


36 posted on 09/01/2005 6:30:48 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Doogle
...yeah, maybe bullhorns will stop them.

In a sense, the teenage boys are the bullhorns.

37 posted on 09/01/2005 6:31:07 PM PDT by meyer (Eastern Tennessee)
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To: Let_It_Be_So
I heard that some policemen were possibly getting some boxes of ammunition off the shelves before looters could get to them. Could it be that people have misunderstood the photo you referenced?"

I have only seen two photos of cops looting. One was a couple of male cops with handfuls of DVDs. The other was two hefty lady cops with a cart full of baby clothes in a ransacked Wal-Mart.

38 posted on 09/01/2005 6:31:57 PM PDT by Aznar5
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
I wouldn't lift a finger to help New Orleans until some adults take charge and start shooting the murderers, thieves and rapists who have taken control of the city (what's left of it).

Who wants to assist the warlords of New Mogadishu?

There is no excuse for allowing helicopters to take fire at the hospitals.

It wouldn't take many police or guardsmen to end the hospital shootings.

Anyone armed and firing at helicopters in the vicinity of a hospital should be shot and killed instantly. PERIOD.

No sympathy for New Orleans until the lawlessness is controlled.

When we stand by and watch these barbarians destroy all civilization, WE BECOME PART OF THE PROBLEM.

39 posted on 09/01/2005 6:32:01 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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Shows how times change... in New York City, after 9/11... no looting. After the massive power outage that took out most of the northeast grid, no looting (except in Toronto! bwahahaha).


40 posted on 09/01/2005 6:32:59 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Gentlemen may cry, "Peace! Peace!" -- but there is no peace. - Patrick Henry)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

BUMP


41 posted on 09/01/2005 6:33:27 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: thoughtomator

A lot has to do with leadership. Guliani had it, and this clown has no clue. Either that or he is in the pocket of the gangsters.


42 posted on 09/01/2005 6:34:43 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Fitzcarraldo
Scanner: "Suspects shooting at power workers..."

Being in the power industry, that hits close to home.

43 posted on 09/01/2005 6:35:58 PM PDT by meyer (Eastern Tennessee)
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To: Let_It_Be_So

No way!

The photo I saw had two NO policemen in full dress carting out DVDs and other stuff.


44 posted on 09/01/2005 6:35:58 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: GSlob

Agreed.


45 posted on 09/01/2005 6:36:39 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Do you know Landru, Brother?)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
I'm waiting for some of those earnest neo-anarchists to show up and explain that we don't really need government in this country. They've been kinda scarce on FR over the past few days.

This is Thug Culture. It's the real-world expression of the violence, envy, resentment, and outright hatred that has been deified by popular culture for quite some time now, codified by rappers, fanned by race hustlers and glorified by Hollywood. This is what it looks like. It isn't civil war at all because the good guys aren't shooting back.

What the purveyers of this toxic little subculture do best is blame other people for it, so it doesn't look to be re-examined very soon.

46 posted on 09/01/2005 6:37:04 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: rineaux
they all must be taken out of the city to protect the future of it. either way, once it is under control, those who committed some awful crimes will be coming to a City near you. I'm sure they were crimminals before the storm.

Maybe it would be better to remove as many of the innocents as possible, and then breach the Mississippi Levee.

47 posted on 09/01/2005 6:37:36 PM PDT by meyer (Eastern Tennessee)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
He did not give details as to why. From what? Thugs?

They drowned. They were sent home Sunday night and were trapped in their homes by the hurricane.

48 posted on 09/01/2005 6:38:43 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Let_It_Be_So

Well, the ammo I saw in the policemans hands was DVD's.


49 posted on 09/01/2005 6:39:42 PM PDT by RobRoy (Child support and maintenance (alimony) are what we used to call indentured slavery)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

It is embarrassing. We have got to fix this soon. And what is terrible is, these same thugs will be evacuated from the Superdome to the Astrodome. There is no excuse for this inhuman behavior.


50 posted on 09/01/2005 6:39:53 PM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!)
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