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Masques of Death (A sewer of applied liberalism, New Orleans was lawless long before this week.)
The American Prowler ^ | 9/2/2005 | George Neumayr

Posted on 09/01/2005 10:22:08 PM PDT by nickcarraway

New Orleans has one of the highest murder rates in the country. By mid-August of this year, 192 murders had been committed in New Orleans, "nearly 10 times the national average," reported the Associated Press. Gunfire is so common in New Orleans -- and criminals so fierce -- that when university researchers conducted an experiment last year in which they had cops fire 700 blank rounds in a neighborhood on a random afternoon "no one called to report the gunfire," reported AP.

New Orleans was ripe for collapse. Its dangerous geography, combined with a dangerous culture, made it susceptible to an unfolding catastrophe. Currents of chaos and lawlessness were running through the city long before this week, and they were bound to come to the surface under the pressure of natural disaster and explode in a scene of looting and mayhem.

Like riotous Los Angeles since the 1960s, New Orleans has been a wasteland of politically correct dysfunction for decades -- public schools so obviously decimated vouchers were proposed this year (and torpedoed by the left), barbaric gangster rap culture no one will confront lest they offend liberal pieties, multiculturalist frauds who empower no one but themselves, and cops neutered by the NAACP and ACLU.

Criminals have ruled New Orleans for some time, convincing many members of the middle class, long before the hurricane, that the city was unlivable. In 1994, New Orleans was the murder capital of America. It had 421 murders that year. Criminologists predicted 300 murders this year, a projection that now looks quite conservative.

Criminals dominate their neighborhoods to the point that people don't even call in crimes. The district attorney's office, tacitly admitting that the city's law-abiding citizens live in fear, has taken the "unusual" step of establishing a local witness protection program to encourage the reporting of crime, reports AP.

According to the New Orleans Police Foundation, most murderers get off -- only 1 in 4 are convicted -- and 42 percent of cases involving serious crimes since 2002 have been dropped by prosecutors.

Meanwhile, cops, when they can get away with it, have been living out of town. It is far too scary for them and their families. New Orleans Police officers are required to live in the city but many ignore this residency requirement, according to the Times-Picayune. The paper discovered that many top-ranking New Orleands cops lived in the suburbs and that most cops, both black and white, wanted the residency requirement rescinded.

For reasons of political correctness -- critics of law enforcement say lifting the residency requirement will mean more white cops eager to brutalize residents of the inner city and fewer black cops understanding of them -- the residency requirement remains, though cops breaking the rule told the Times-Picayune that it seriously hurts recruitment. It also -- this is particularly evident in Los Angeles where cops involved in the Ramparts scandal turned out to be ex-criminals -- distorts recruitment.

If the New Orleans Police Department has appeared feeble during the chaos -- and in some cases complicit in it -- policies like the residency requirement explain the breakdown. (Perhaps another factor that has rendered the NOPD feckless in the face of a rising murder rate is the criticism of its handling of a minority Mardi Gras.) Americans who have seen cops join in the looting ask: Why are police officers behaving like criminals? Well, because PC police departments like the NOPD hire them. Aggressive, let's-just-meet-the-quota-style affirmative action has become the door through which criminals enter the police academy.

More than the physical foundations of New Orleans will need to be rebuilt over the next few years. Its politically correct culture in which pathologies are allowed to fester in the name of "progress" forms much of the debris that must be cleared away if civilization is to return to New Orleans. A city which boasts as one of its businesses memorial "death t-shirts" -- clothing made popular by the frequency of gangland slayings in New Orleans that say things like, "Born a Pimp, Died a Playa" -- was headed for collapse even without a hurricane, and had become, as the exodus of cops illustrates, unlivable.

Conservative black leaders have been mau-maued into silence whenever they tell the truth about this barbarism and call for dramatic reform. But they are the ones who must lead the city now, and the phonies at organizations like the NAACP who despite all their rhetoric haven't done a thing to help the black underclass should step aside. Hurricane Katrina has made vivid the civilizational collapse they have long tried to conceal.

George Neumayr is executive editor of The American Spectator.


TOPICS: Editorial; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: crimerate; democrats; katrina; left; liberals; looters; naacp; neworleans
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To: DieselBoy

Diesel boy , your pomposity is iritating. I have been down and out, I worked my ass off to get a roof over my head. I WAS RAISED RIGHT!! I grew up in an old school Dem. family. My parents told me that the govt had to have safety nets for people who needed them and always added. " And thats not you!". We come from a great tradition summed up by this adage, "Too poor to paint, too proud to whitewash".


101 posted on 09/02/2005 12:11:15 AM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (Purge the land of Leftists and deadbeats)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

I meant with their stolen Caddies


102 posted on 09/02/2005 12:12:14 AM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (Purge the land of Leftists and deadbeats)
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To: joyce11111

"That armpit of the US should not be re-built."

I hope it's rebuilt. I do not want those thugs moving next to me. I can't guard my house 24-7.


103 posted on 09/02/2005 12:13:17 AM PDT by Razz Barry
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To: joyce11111
"That armpit of the US should not be re-built. "

As one whose family hails from the Crescent City, I have to admit that maybe this tragedy should be viewed as the removal of a cancer.

104 posted on 09/02/2005 12:14:23 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: DieselBoy
We didnt hear too much about that before Katrina. Maybe because no one cared...

Somebody cue up the violins, (and get that DU refugee some Kleenex).

105 posted on 09/02/2005 12:14:59 AM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered. )
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To: nickcarraway
I am furious with the looting apologists!

They ought to be ashamed of themselves!

America had a 30% unemployment rate in the 1930's. Back then, unemployed and hungry men roamed the country looking for WORK, not for victims.

They rode in railroad boxcars, if necessary.

Being poor is absolutely no excuse for becoming a ruthless criminal.

When I hear this crap, "What were the poor of New Orleans supposed to do?"

I answer:

"They were supposed to do what they were warned and GET OUT using FREE transportation offered, traveling to the FREE shelters waiting with FREE food.

Keep in mind a whole army of disaster relief people were being mobilized before the hurricane.

106 posted on 09/02/2005 12:15:08 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: DieselBoy
Maybe because no one cared...

Oh, plueeeeeeeze. Its friggin' liberalism gone amok down there. So much so, that people can't think for themselves and need a government program (aka handout) to "help" them.

107 posted on 09/02/2005 12:15:15 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: Southack
"Odd. The TV coverage that I've seen shows able-bodied adult men who refuse to walk or swim (it's the Deep South in Summer, that water won't freeze you) or boat out...but are either whining for government to come save them or are shooting at government agents and volunteers coming to save them.

What channel are you watching?

I don't have anything to add. I just thought your post warranted repeating.

108 posted on 09/02/2005 12:16:05 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: DieselBoy
People rape to survive? Sure they do.They are walking all over New Orleans killing ,stealing and raping.Why didn't try use all this energy,and get the hell out of there like they were warned many times too.
109 posted on 09/02/2005 12:16:45 AM PDT by patriciamary
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To: bigsigh

Acceptable lying and killing 101--Oh Osama, I so admire you, no I don't have a 45 caliber under my shirt, I just want to be near you, point blank range is my desire, oh holy one.


110 posted on 09/02/2005 12:17:49 AM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (Purge the land of Leftists and deadbeats)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

yup , did you hear the "whiners" crabbin' about the food they were given?????


111 posted on 09/02/2005 12:19:53 AM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: nickcarraway
Rebuilding the levys would be the real.. crime..
New Orleans should be a by-word.. henceforth..

And if god is merciful and just.. San Fransisco should vibrate into the ocean..

112 posted on 09/02/2005 12:20:22 AM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: DieselBoy
The reason you see those shacks and hoards of poor blacks is because they get fed promises by the latest "Dr." preaching from their local church pulpit to support the latest crook running for State Senate, mayor, councilman, ... whatever. Who gives them empty promises in return for a path to Easy Street.

If you all want a good laugh as to what ignorance and corruption has done to Augusta, GA. I invite you to do a Google Search for "Charles Walker". He is a shining example of Liberalism gone bad.

This "pillar of society" even supported his son to run for Congress, and the Dims actually propped him up as a candidate! Well, "Champ Walker" (the son) has as much intelligence as a freshly squeezed turd.

Please bookmark our weekly paper, the Metro Spirit (every Thursday), and read the "Insider" opinion column. You may appreciate your own local government.

113 posted on 09/02/2005 12:21:12 AM PDT by AJ504 (...I bumped up my monthly... did you??)
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To: wildcatf4f3

I got you. You're the guy who when asked by the SS where the Jews were, said, I cannot tell a lie, they're under the stairs. Your absolute moral code is not admirable and unjustifiable. Also, since you oppose killing I guess you don't believe in self-defense or justifiable war. Osama your a#$.


114 posted on 09/02/2005 12:21:42 AM PDT by bigsigh
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To: ChicagoHebrew

In the Great Blackout of 2003, there was plenty of looting in New York City. I stand by my earlier point.


115 posted on 09/02/2005 12:22:51 AM PDT by Roy Tucker
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To: DieselBoy
"Just like the rest of the media. We have a FEW people looting electronics, howver a large MAJORITY of the populus is trying to loot to live."

It's impossible to discern what the percentage is of looters just trying to survive and keep their families alive until somebody rescues them, as opposed to how many are just theives, thugs and scumbags. So in all fairness I must agree with you. It's just plain wrong to condemn these folks accross the board.

I read an interview with a 'looter' who said he was a Christian. He felt terrible about breaking a window to get some food, but said he hadn't eaten in two days. Then I read about the thugs who are raping and carjacking, and stealing electronics and guns. So it's wrong to start gunning down the looters at will, because you just might be murdering a poor slob trying to get a loaf of bread for his family, or something to barter with. These people are living in a nightmare, I pray to God for them all.

116 posted on 09/02/2005 12:25:13 AM PDT by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Urban II, 1097AD)
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To: bigsigh

don't be thick--its my super clever plan to get OBL,.... keep it under your hat.....


117 posted on 09/02/2005 12:25:24 AM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (Purge the land of Leftists and deadbeats)
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To: capecodderathome
The barbaric behavior of the looting criminal element in NO, has set the Black community back fifty years, IMO.

I wonder if the two are distinguishable.

118 posted on 09/02/2005 12:25:30 AM PDT by A2J (Oh, I wish I was in Dixie...)
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To: DieselBoy
The deep south is a 3rd world country.

Want to reconsider your bigoted position?

119 posted on 09/02/2005 12:29:28 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: DieselBoy

Whether they stay or go, they will have no food or water. However, they have a better chance of finding relief if they try to leave.


120 posted on 09/02/2005 12:30:03 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: Tribune7
I never realized N.O. was that bad.

As a native of Louisiana, I can tell you that New Orleans has been that bad for decades. All one needs to do is to take a walk through the French Quarter during the day and you're immediately accosted by the stench of urine and vomit that dries in the streets.

New Orleans is hated by the rest of Louisiana because they have always gotten the lion's share of everything and yet, with all of the favoritism shown it, NO continues to spiral into the hell hole that it has become.

121 posted on 09/02/2005 12:30:19 AM PDT by A2J (Oh, I wish I was in Dixie...)
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To: DieselBoy

Walk!

Sheesh. It's slow, but it's free.


122 posted on 09/02/2005 12:31:18 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: DieselBoy
Unless you are extremely well off, most people living under the poverty line, like in NO, run out of money at the end of the month.

While working with a predominantly black crew of recyclers (paid off the books), I learned that "mother's day" comes once a month in their community, when a tide of federal (taxpayer) money washes through, temporarily lifting well-connected boats.

123 posted on 09/02/2005 12:32:59 AM PDT by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: nickcarraway

How can an area allow itself to become so PC that the residents fear for their lives and still elect officials that advocate following a PC lifestyle. I thought we in the USA had the right to vote such measures down. The logic totally escapes me!


124 posted on 09/02/2005 12:33:33 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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To: DieselBoy
We have a FEW people looting electronics, howver a large MAJORITY of the populus is trying to loot to live.

What channel have you been watching? Al Jazeera?

And I bet you listen to Al Franken for all of your news, right?

125 posted on 09/02/2005 12:34:41 AM PDT by A2J (Oh, I wish I was in Dixie...)
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To: DieselBoy

If you've followed the threads here, you would know that such is not the case. The vast majority of folks here understand that taking food and other bona-fide necessities from an abandoned store is justified under the duress of the circumstances, provided that the owner is compensated for his loss. Ideally there should be a plan in place to have the local authorities secure such facilities to ensure that those genuinely in need (like elderly shut-ins) are able to have access to supplies. That's why public order is imperative. You can't help those in need if the gangstas are firing at rescuers with AK-47s. Taking control is the first priority.

Yes, there are thousands of people trapped down there without food or water. It's been four days, and that represents a major failure on the part government officials in charge - who were voted into office by the victims of their indolence, corruption and incompetence. I would also submit that a large part of this failure is the result of decades of PC-liberalism with respect to crime, thuggery, corruption and general immorality - just as the article's author does.


126 posted on 09/02/2005 12:37:59 AM PDT by Bogolyubski
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To: DieselBoy
Unfortunately ive been to the all black communities of the south.

Jesse, is that you?

127 posted on 09/02/2005 12:38:13 AM PDT by A2J (Oh, I wish I was in Dixie...)
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To: DieselBoy

Those that need rescue can walk (or wade) to the outskirts of the city. Then ask for directions to a Red Cross station.

Looters is New Orleans have ensured that all rescue operations must initially regard ANY survivor as a potential hostile.

Looters that you act as an apologist for.


129 posted on 09/02/2005 12:42:34 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: Dad yer funny

Yeah, I saw a new story about it. The ingrate had the nerve to complain about the MRE's that they were eating.

The same kind of food our military eats when there is no messing available while deployed.

But G-d forbid that any person from New Orleans should be forced to even look at one.


130 posted on 09/02/2005 12:49:13 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: Southack
I fear that Baton Rouge and other cities will feel the whip of the criminal element from New Orleans, as well.

My family there has told me that some citizens have taken to carrying sidearms just to go to the store because of fear that looters are already there in Baton Rouge.

131 posted on 09/02/2005 12:50:07 AM PDT by A2J (Oh, I wish I was in Dixie...)
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BUMP


132 posted on 09/02/2005 12:50:45 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: nickcarraway
"Currents of chaos and lawlessness were running through the city long before this week, and they were bound to come to the surface under the pressure of natural disaster and explode in a scene of looting and mayhem."

This is so obvious in hindsight.

Why couldn't the city officials see it coming?

133 posted on 09/02/2005 12:51:06 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: patriciamary
Why didn't try use all this energy,and get the hell out of there like they were warned many times too.

What, and risking having to get a job and losing their welfare handout? Surely, you jest.

134 posted on 09/02/2005 1:01:45 AM PDT by A2J (Oh, I wish I was in Dixie...)
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To: DieselBoy

Break into stores for their survival?


Do you eat plasma t.v's?


How about Nike's?


Shotguns? No?


Taking food to survive is one thing. No one needs to take a plasme tv to EAT!


135 posted on 09/02/2005 1:05:49 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (Warning: Exposure to the SON may PREVENT burning.)
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To: Southack

"...whining for the government to come save them..."



No kidding, frigging walk out. I would have by now and I am disabled. And what is with these 300 lb plus women whining about not eating????


136 posted on 09/02/2005 1:17:21 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (Warning: Exposure to the SON may PREVENT burning.)
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To: Southack
Odd. The TV coverage that I've seen shows able-bodied adult men who refuse to walk or swim (it's the Deep South in Summer, that water won't freeze you) or boat out...but are either whining for government to come save them or are shooting at government agents and volunteers coming to save them.

THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS.

One of my most strong memories from 9/11 is going through the pictures of the Brooklyn Bridge, the Hudson River Drive, and other major roadways out of the city. They were covered in people, residents and workers alike, who were walking out of the disaster area. The rescues were being saved for those stranded in the rubble, who needed evac to hospitals. Everyone else got the hell out of there. You can't compare Katrina and 9/11; they're totally different in scope and magnitude, but you can compare attitude. People walked 10 or 15 miles that day to get out of the city. Their fellow citizens helped them along the way.

In the Sudan, there was a horrific massacre that left several thousand children homeless and parentless. They marched themselves across a wilderness to Ethiopian refugee camps for hundreds of miles. Thousands died from disease, from attacks by wild animals, from starvation, but another few thousands made it out alive. Why are able-bodied adults in the most well-off nation in the world unable to do what New Yorkers and African orphans can do? What the hell have we done down there?
137 posted on 09/02/2005 1:25:12 AM PDT by slightlyovertaxed
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To: DieselBoy

"...others are just trying to survive, no one can seem to admit that"



Actually many here have admitted that over and over. Our problem is with the animals assaulting others and stealing luxury items and guns and alcohol.

We also have a problem with anyone making excuses for them.


138 posted on 09/02/2005 1:33:07 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (Warning: Exposure to the SON may PREVENT burning.)
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To: Lancey Howard
"New Mogadishu"

Dang, there are some parallels there aren't there. A mission of mercy, where members of the population turn hostile against the people trying to help. The resulting chaos causes more suffering for the common indiginous people who are already suffering. Now even Bill Clinton is brought in to help. Given Clinton's history in the "Mog," I hope they don't let him put his bungling fingers on too much.

Given that these are our own citizens, we are going to have to deal with this situation. Along with the rescue operation, the Fed needs to send a very large law and order presence to bring the lawlessness under control.

139 posted on 09/02/2005 1:34:58 AM PDT by MensRightsActivist
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
There was no looting with the great blackout that crippled much of the east coast.

I thought there was quite a lot in NYC. I could be remembering wrong, and I'm in Boston, so it wouldn't have been local for me. But that's my recollection.

140 posted on 09/02/2005 1:37:56 AM PDT by maryz
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To: slightlyovertaxed
"Why are able-bodied adults in the most well-off nation in the world unable to do what New Yorkers and African orphans can do? What the hell have we done down there?"

Unable is the wrong word. Unwilling comes to mind. There was a MANDATORY evacuation ordered days before Katrina hit. Yet many able-bodied chose to stay. Now they're living in squalor, in a post-disaster, lawless area, and they are still choosing to stay (shooting at their own rescuers coming to offer aid via boats and helicopters).

Sure, we should save those who want to be saved, but we've also got to accept that some people WANT to be there.

141 posted on 09/02/2005 1:58:47 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: wildcatf4f3
All the bridges are down. Where are they going to go. How are they going to "get away"?

Maybe the same route the busses are using.?

142 posted on 09/02/2005 2:02:15 AM PDT by rock58seg ("Guest Workers," W's version of, "Read my lips." Secure our borders!)
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To: nickcarraway
"combined with a dangerous culture, made it susceptible to an unfolding catastrophe"

When I saw the images of people stealing shoes, I was reminded of the cultural rot of rap music and MTV-where having an expensive pair of shoes, wearing your pants below your a$$, and making sure you aren't dissed, are the most important things in the world.

NO is the epitome of what's wrong with this. The City is flooded with raw sewage, and decaying bodies, it's dark, there's no electricity, water, or food, but what do the thugs do? They steal shoes, and shoot at the people trying to rescue them. Thanks so much godless liberalism- Take a good long look at what your fomenting hate has produced.

On the other hand, while the thugs do their fake tough-guy impressions, and hurt others- the people with real toughness and courage emerged- they are the ones helping their fellow human beings, in spite of the horrors, uncertainties, and darkness of the situation-like the man who was pushing a person in a wheel chair through the sluge water to get him to safety,( or at least away from the worst parts of the city); or the man who said he had carried 50 people through the water, or the those who floated disabled people on air mattresses and pulled them through the debris, trying to get them out- they are the "tough" people. The men, women, and children, who are waiting patiently, in spite of hunger, thirst, and horrible living conditions- they are the courageous ones. The thugs making a bad situation worse- are cowards.

After watching the coverage-two things that are sorely lacking - spiritual leadership- and INFORMATION.

Fox New's Shep Smith (who has done an outstanding job of reporting) has been covering the people stuck on the freeway overpass- he kept asking for someone to tell him what they should do, or where they should go,- no-one answered, the cops drove right on by.

No wonder people are losing it- There needs to be some kind of leadership- someone asking the people to be tough, and patient, to please and hang in there,. Acknowledge that it 's a horrendous situation, but explain just how widespread the damage is, that's why it's taking longer to get to them.

(I'm sure they don't know how bad it is-that it covers three states. How could they? They don't have tv, or radio, nothing. All the reporters mentioned the communication bubble- even they don't have the whole picture. )

Most importantly someone needs to tell them that it's going to be alright- that there's a place for them, and people know what's happening, they just have to hang on- help is on the way. Tell them this is the biggest relief effort in US history.

(I'm not in any way making excuses for the thugs- they need to be shot, but, when people are the are in the dark, there are dead bodies, and rising rancid water, everywhere- and they have heard years and years of liberals telling them that no-one cares what happens to them - I can see where The Lord of the Flies mentality has taken over.

Another example of the communication problem is at the Super Dome - I saw a report where people didn't want to go to the Astro Dome because they figured it would be the same nightmare that the Super Dome is. They need to be told it's better.

Is there some way bull horns could be used to address the people, in as many of the damaged areas as possible ? (since they don't have radios or tv's) I mean tell them something, anything. Maybe read a currnet newspaper to them with the Bull horn?

Tell them how widespread the damage is. Give them some hope. Maybe Jesse Jackson could go there ?

It's such an awful situation. People need to know what's going on. They need to be distracted so they can get through it.

Prayers being said for all in the destruction areas.

143 posted on 09/02/2005 2:03:14 AM PDT by Pajamajan ("Where there's life, there's hope-" Terri Schindler's message to the world-never forget)
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To: slightlyovertaxed
"Odd. The TV coverage that I've seen shows able-bodied adult men who refuse to walk or swim (it's the Deep South in Summer, that water won't freeze you)"

I could see someone taking a pair of Nikes if they had no shoes, or some food or water, but that's about it. Also, have they said anything about gators or mocasins being in the City??? I've heard newscaster twits saying there are critters in the water, but are there any sigtings??? If there are "dead people" and "pets" floating in the water I suspect gators won't pass up an easy meal, and once they know they've found a place with an ample food source to loot... Well, they're oportunists too.

I'm certainly not condoning the greedy looting or lawlessness that's going on down there. No excuse for that. On the other hand, I could understand people being disoriented and confused and scared, given the drastic way their city has been impacted. Many of the people don't want to leave family behind either. That place is a real mess. Having gone through the 94 quake in a place where 25% of the population had to move out I can understand some of what's happening. The first thing I heard when I went outside at just after 4:31 a.m. after being woken out of a sound sleep was a loud rushing noise that sounded like water. Probably a water heater fell over I thought, but was wrong. A block wall had fallen over and ruptured a medium pressure gas line going to an apartment bldg. A few minutes earlier, just after the shaking stopped, the first thought that popped into my head was "Some people just died." Yeah, and more were soon to follow, the closest about three blocks. The first thing I saw when the sun came up was the smoke from the fires on Ventura Blvd. The gas was still gushing, and contunued to gush for 7 1/2 hours.

I talked with a guy from the gas company the next day about how to fix such a gas leak, and asked him for some DC plugs. He got kind of snotty and told me I shouldn't be messing with gas company property. I informed him in no uncertain terms that the next time his company so irresponsibly let their gas escape for "hours" they should come fully prepared to take a bench vise off their line that would be used to pinch it shut. I still have the DC (tapered damage control) plugs, but hope I never need them.

144 posted on 09/02/2005 2:05:37 AM PDT by MensRightsActivist
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To: nickcarraway
One could make a case for a modern Sodom and Gamorrah. God is long suffering, God is good. Amen.
145 posted on 09/02/2005 2:10:24 AM PDT by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
this tragedy should be viewed as the removal of a cancer.

Well put.
146 posted on 09/02/2005 2:22:22 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Dustbunny

This is a city where, whne I was teaching, kids often enrolled in college and don't attend so they could live off their grant money...which to them seems like cushy bucks.

When you were raised with the entitlement mindset, and low expectations about the quality of life, the little stuff seems good.


147 posted on 09/02/2005 2:26:25 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: nickcarraway
Gunfire is so common in New Orleans -- and criminals so fierce -- that when university researchers conducted an experiment last year in which they had cops fire 700 blank rounds in a neighborhood on a random afternoon "no one called to report the gunfire,

Unfriken' believable..

148 posted on 09/02/2005 2:31:53 AM PDT by Experiment 6-2-6 (Previously known as Pookie Me, a Freeper since 7 September 1998. All who joined later are newbies!)
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To: DieselBoy
>> The people that are left are looting trying to survive

Oh right. A lot of people need jewelry, TVs, cases of Nikes, rafts full of beer to survive. And on-the-job cops need armfuls of DVDs to survive.

>> If the situation was reversed you would be doing the exact same thing

Believe it or not, there are still some of us who use crisis situations to rise to the occasion, who do our best under pressure, who try to help others when things go wrong.

Give us a break, DieselBoy.

149 posted on 09/02/2005 2:36:27 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: The Worthless Miracle
They are poor because of decisions they have made. There are opportunities abound for people who are willing to work, not to mention the affirmative action programs, and gov't $ available for schooling for minorities. I had to put up with that "diversity" crap all through college

This is true only in part.

There is a moderately large (say, ten million) population of third-world people living among us. They are concentrated in certain urban and rural areas, and if you don't live or work where they live, they are quite invisible.

Most of them are of African descent, but most Americans of African descent are not like them.

This group of people has little political power, except in urban areas of high concentration, of which the former city of New Orleans was clearly one.

These people of whom I speak are not in a position to benefit from work, or government $ for schooling, or affirmative action (all of which have been a tremendous engine of progress for many other African-descended Americans). They are living like rural Africans live today, they are way, way out of their depth in a 21st-Century first world nation, and nobody has any idea what to do about them.

150 posted on 09/02/2005 2:56:42 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God)
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