Skip to comments.It was Bush that asked the Gov and Mayor to order a mandatory evacuation, NOT their idea at all.
Posted on 09/02/2005 2:22:21 PM PDT by joinedafterattack
Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that it was President Bush that had called and urged the state to order the evacuation.
New Orleans orders evacuation Hurricane Katrina's winds nearly 175 mph
Sunday, August 28, 2005; Posted: 11:47 a.m. EDT (15:47 GMT)
NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin declared a state of emergency on Sunday and ordered a mandatory evacuation of the city as Hurricane Katrina churned toward the city with maximum sustained winds of nearly 175 mph.
All of Orleans Parish falls under the order except for necessary personnel in government, emergency and some other public service categories.
People who are unable to evacuate were told to immediately report to a designated shelter.
"I wish I had better news for you, but we are facing a storm that most of us have feared," Nagin said. "I do not want to create panic, but I do want the citizens to understand that this is very serious and it's of the highest nature."
Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that President Bush had called and urged the state to order the evacuation.
About 485,000 people live in the city, and many began evacuating before sunrise.
Blanco said that westbound traffic was heavy and that the state police was urging people to travel to the north or east.
Shelters have been set up at 10 sites, including the Superdome, for people who cannot leave the city for medical or other reasons, but Nagin said they should be used only as a "last resort." (See video from New Orleans, where not all are ready to leave)
He said people who must stay in the shelter should bring enough food, water and supplies to last several days.
The National Hurricane Center in Miami said low-lying areas along the Gulf Coast could expect storm surges of up to 25 feet as the Category 5 storm makes landfall early Monday.
Officials fear New Orleans is vulnerable because it sits an average of 6 feet below sea level. (Watch video of how New Orleans reacted to warning)
Nagin said the storm surge would likely topple the levy system that protects the city.
"It has the potential for a large loss of life," said Max Mayfield, director of the NHC. (Watch CNN meteorologist explain storm outlook)
Katrina is blamed for at least seven deaths in Florida, where it made landfall Thursday as a Category 1 hurricane. As much as 18 inches of rain fell in some areas, flooding streets and homes. (See video of the damage floodwaters left in one family's new house)
At 10 a.m. ET, Katrina was centered about 225 miles south-southeast of the mouth of the Mississippi River. It was moving to the west-northwest at about 12 mph.
NHC forecaster Ed Rappaport said Katrina's strength could fluctuate before it reaches shore but noted the difference between a high Category 4 and a low Category 5 was practically inconsequential.
"There will be extensive to potentially catastrophic damage to many structures ... and inland," he said. "We'll have a lot of trees that are going to come down, perhaps millions of trees. But the first threat is going to be the storm surge. You must get away from the coast now."
By 8:30 a.m. ET, the first bands of rain were falling over southeastern Louisiana.
CNN meteorologist Brad Huffines said the Katrina would come ashore "sometime between 5 a.m. and 8 a.m." Monday.
"The news doesn't get good, unfortunately," he said. "These rain showers will slow down the evacuation process, and that means you need to hit the road quickly, very quickly."
Worst-case scenario In worst-case scenarios, most of New Orleans would end up under 15 feet of water, without electricity, clean water and sewage for months. Even pumping the water out could take as long as four months to get started because the massive pumps that would do the job would be underwater.
"People in New Orleans tend to think that the storm we've always planned on would never come," Louisiana National Guard Lt. Col. Pete Schneider said. "But people need to heed that warning."
Rappaport cautioned that New Orleans was not the only area threatened -- the storm's hurricane winds spread out as far as 100 miles. As far east as Mobile, Alabama, forecasters warned of storm surges reaching 8 to 10 feet.
Hurricane warnings were posted from Morgan City, Louisiana, eastward to the Alabama-Florida state line, including New Orleans and Lake Pontchartrain. A hurricane warning means hurricane conditions, including winds of at least 74 mph, are expected in the warning area within the next 24 hours.
A tropical storm warning and a hurricane watch were issued from the Alabama-Florida state line eastward to Destin, Florida, and from west of Morgan City to Intracoastal City, Louisiana. Another tropical storm warning was issued Sunday from Intracoastal City, Louisiana, west to Cameron, Louisiana, and from Destin, Florida, eastward to Indian Pass, Florida.
A tropical storm warning means tropical storm conditions, including winds of at least 39 mph, are expected within 24 hours. A hurricane watch means hurricane conditions are possible, usually within 36 hours.
Governors of both Louisiana and Mississippi declared emergencies Friday in anticipation of the strengthening storm.
Robert Latham, director of the Mississippi Emergency Management Agency, said the state was recommending evacuations along the coast "and even several counties inland." Mandatory evacuations could follow later, he said.
Category 5 is the highest category on the Saffir-Simpson scale of hurricane intensity. Only three Category 5 hurricanes have made landfall in the United States since records were kept. Those were the Labor Day hurricane of 1935, 1969's Hurricane Camille and Hurricane Andrew, which devastated the Miami area in 1992. Andrew remains the costliest U.S. hurricane on record, with $26.5 billion in losses.
Camille came ashore in Mississippi and killed 256 people.
Oil production cut U.S. energy companies said U.S. Gulf of Mexico crude oil output was cut by more than one-third on Saturday due to the threatening storm, Reuters reported.
The Gulf of Mexico is home to roughly a quarter of U.S. domestic oil and gas output, with a capacity to produce about 1.5 million barrels per day of crude and 12.3 billion cubic feet per day of gas. (Full story)
Many oil platforms and rigs in the Gulf of Mexico have been evacuated. ((Watch the video of drilling crews securing rigs and seeking safety.)
CNN's David Mattingly, Susan Candiotti, Jacqui Jeras and Rob Marciano contributed to this report.
I dont' believe it's a "short memory" problem when it comes to the Dems and Libs, and the MSM. I believe many of them remember quite well, but they are hoping that we don't. Well, we do remember, and we're not going to let them get away with it. :)
If true, the President has indeed saved many lives.
Yep, the link on this thread shows it. Not only that. Why did Bush ask Gov Blanco to order the evacuation on Friday? IF they "didn't know where it was going to hit until Sunday" Faith?
The President has no such legal authority. That order would have to come from the Gov of the State. Legally a President cannot order troops into a State until the State Gov ASKS for them.
Look. They're going to try and impeach this President. Mark my words. This isn't like the Clinton impeachment: the press won't provide cover this time, they will be on the hunt.
The lupine desire to blame the President is based (I'm guessing) on the idea that he was slow to coordinate a response because he doesn't care and he's a racist. The truth, I'm sure, is that he delegated responsibility right away to those at FEMA and homeland security. This was a logistical nightmare. The roads and bridges were damaged, and if you drop food from the air, it just gets wet (and ruined).
My point is that what the Democrats are doing is shameful, and we have to stick together and get ready for a long fight.
President George W. Bush has declared an emergency for the state of Mississippi, as well as demanding a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans, while pledging federal funds to the situation. New Orleans evacuated 28/08/2005
Nagin said 1,500 troops are immediately available, however, and another 2,500 have been mobilized. KWTX
Gov. Kathleen Blanco, standing beside the mayor at a news conference, said President Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation for the low-lying city, which is prone to flooding.KATC News Aug 28, 2005
Gov. Kathleen Blanco, in joining the mayor, said President George Bush personally appealed for the mandatory evacuation for the city. insurancejournal.com August 28, 2005
Gov. Kathleen Blanco said Interstate 10, which was converted Saturday so that all lanes headed one-way out of town, was totally gridlocked. Eitb24.com 08/28/2005
Democrat incompetence strikes again.
Sunday morning, I remember reading posts from freepers in the area of NO, saying that outbound traffic was still very light. Even late in the day, when the highways were jammed, southbound lanes were not turned over to northbound traffic (and under the circumstances that was utterly inexplicable).
He asked her to order it on Friday? You're kidding. I didn't know that.
I did a google search on "federal disaster request", an article that gives a good description of "disaster" vs. "emergency", who is supposed to do what when. Amazing.
GWB did declare a federal emergency on Sat, I think. What was the state doing?
This crap needs to be nipped in the bud before the MSM screws it up anymore.
Ditto for the "blame Bush because he cut the funding" or the "Bush destroyed all the wetlands (storm buffer)" arguments.
A post yesterday linked to Crintoon cutting the funding for upgrading the levee's, etc.
Fire the Gov and Mayor - what idiots.
The National Guard should have been positioned by the Govenor on standby, waiting to assist. The order for evacuation of the infirm, tourist, seniors, etc. should have already occurred before Bush had to yell ....."Wake up, FOOLS"
The jackazz mayor should have bussed his constituents out and got the Weepy Govenor to help if he didn't have the brains or means to figure it all out.
Locals should drag out the guillotine and wait for both fools to arrive. Their lack of planning and gambling with Mother Nature just cost thousands of lives.
*The only decent ending to Katrina would be to sharpen up the ole guillotine and dangle their heads from those two holes Katrina ripped in the top of the Dome.
So the gov. and mayor are even dumber than the looters. Wow.
I blame the people who chose to stay knowing what was coming. Plain stupidity.
Yep, I remember that broadcast.
I posted this not too long ago on another thread.
It shows all of the NOAA track maps for the storm, including watches and warnings. Hurricane watch was issued for NO by 10 AM CT Saturday. Forecast tracks had it close to the city as early as 11 PM ET Friday.
And how did they respond , by doing nothing until the flood waters had submerged hundreds of New Orleans school district busses, which they could have used to save thousands of lives.
Yet, the MSM, liberals, and assorted race pimps are blaming Bush????
Or, maybe the gov and mayor declined to use what they had on hand to save thousand sof lives?
I read in some site today (comment by a lib) that the gov. of LA was a republican. I thought she was a dem.
I cannot figure out, for the life of me, what BTTT means, but it must be good. Help!
Rush was commenting on GWBush's speech about helping LA and pointed out all the regulations the GW had to jump over just to be able to help those people. All this govt red tape is a large part of the problem. And the mayor of NO is worrying about his liabilities? That's a very sad commentary.
Yes, any thinking individual knows it. After last year's crop of hurricanes hitting Florida---his brother Jeb's turf---the President had better information than most, and better advice too.
What is astonishing to me is that even a dimwitted Democrat governor in LA was so unprepared and so lacking in basic leadership qualities, that it took a US president to get her off her @$$ --- to elicit the merely prudent, logical response to a threat which was visible from space (literally) well in advance, and which should have been factored---nay, embedded into the emergency planning of a state vulnerable to hurricanes.
I am inclined to give everybody the benefit of the doubt, to the point of absurdity, and even I think that the state govt of LA and the mayor of NO are criminally negligent here. Criminally!
THANK for posting! I need this ammunition for my lib friends who are blaming the Pres.
I spoke, I guess really it was listened in disgust, yesterday as one of them blamed the Pres for everyhing. The storm was his fault- global warming, the gas crisis was his fault - failure to have an energy bill and to explore alternative fuels, the delay in evacuation was his fault, the delay in sending in the Guard and supplies was his fault, the looting was his fault...everything was BUSH's fault.
I finally said "read the Constitution and then get back to me because you need a refresher".
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Katrina has continued to expand in size, and now rivals Hurricane Gilbert and Hurricane Allen as the largest hurricanes in size. When hurricanes reach such enormous sizes, they tend to create their own upper-air environment, making them highly resistant to external wind shear. The global computer models are not really hinting at any wind shear that might affect Katrina before landfall, and the only thing that might weaken her is an eyewall replacement cycle. Even if one of these happens in the next 12 hours, the weakest Katrina is likely to get before landfall is a Category 4 hurricane with 145 mph winds. Katrina is so huge and powerful that she will still do incredible damage even at this level. The track forecast has not changed significantly, and the area from New Orleans to the Mississippi-Louisiana border is going to get a catastrophic blow. I put the odds of New Orleans getting its levees breached and the city submerged at about 70%.
This scenario, which has been discussed extensively in literature I have read, could result in a death toll in the thousands, since many people will be unable or unwilling to get out of the city. I recommend that if you are trapped in New Orleans tomorrow, that you wear a life jacket and a helmet if you have them. High rise buildings may offer good refuge, but Katrina has the potential to knock down a high-rise building. A 25 foot storm surge and 30 - 40 foot high battering waves on top of that may be able to bring down a steel-reinforced high rise building. I don't believe a high rise building taller than six stories has ever been brought down by a hurricane, so this may not happen Monday, either. We are definitely in unknown waters with Katrina.
I have focused on New Orleans in much of my discussions about this storm, but Katrina will do tens of billions in damage all along the coast of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida. Mobile Bay could well see a 10-foot storm surge. And inland areas will take heavy damage as well; Katrina will still be a hurricane 180 miles inland, and cause widespread flooding throughout the Tennessee Valley.
My thoughts and prayers go out to all of you in Katrina's way, and I urge all readers of this blog to do the same.
Jeff Masters (The day before Katrina hit.)
Earlier on Saturday he posted this comment:
I'd hate to be an Emergency Management official in New Orleans right now. Katrina is pretty much following the NHC forecast, and appears likely to pass VERY close to New Orleans. I'm surprised they haven't ordered an evacuation of the city yet. While the odds of a catastropic hit that would completely flood the city of New Orleans are probably 10%, that is way too high in my opinion to justify leaving the people in the city. If I lived in the city, I would evactuate NOW! There is a very good reason that the Coroner's office in New Orleans keeps 10,000 body bags on hand. The risks are too great from this storm, and a weekend away from the city would be nice anyway, right? GO! New Orleans needs a full 72 hours to evacuate, and landfall is already less than 72 hours away. Get out now and beat the rush. You're not going to have to go to work or school on Monday anyway. If an evacuation is ordered, not everyone who wants to get out may be able to do so--particularly the 60,000 poor people with no cars.
EXACTLY! Anyone who was reading/posting here at FR during the approach of Katrina KNEW that it was Dubya who forced this issue in NO. We had weather men going rabid, Barbor PLEADING with the poeple to leave, FReepers warning folks in the Gulf to get out, and all the while we were watching the Party atmosphere continue on in NO. After going through Betsy I couldn't BELIEVE what I was seeing before my eyes down there. The local/state government didn't even have a clue. How many MORE deaths would there be had Blank-0 not heard from President Bush?
I'd like to see a thread posted here (and if there is one please ping me) that is strictly a recap of the Failings of the local/state government from the beginning on. AND it would include the NO/State laws that show why Dubya was WAITING on the idiots in local/state government to do their thing correctly. Some folks act like the President shoud've just gone in there with guns blazing 5 minutes after Katrina passes, sheesh.
I'm still relatively new to FR. What's bump to the top? And thanks!
He said people who must stay in the shelter should bring enough food, water and supplies to last several days
They were told to bring their own food and water? How is that planning?
The dishonesty and corruption of the MSM is only bested by the politicos of New Orleans and LA.
The Gov of the state is the only legal authority who can send in the NG. The President has to wait for the Gov to ASK for Fed help. The only exception to this is like in Arkansan in 1956. The Gov activated the guard to oppose a Supreme Court order to integrate their schools. Eisenhower (A REPUBLICAN by the way) sent in Regular Army troops to enforce the Courts ruling. The Gov of Louisiana STILL is refusing to ask for Regular Army troops as of 5:30 Central time Friday 9-2-05. Even CNN is reporting the facts that Gov of Louisiana did NOT ask for help until WENSDAY. Tell your leftist friends to actually LEARN something from this rather then cling so desperately to their hate.
Speaking of Saints, George Bush should be designated as such for perhaps saving thousands of poor people.
The mayor of New Orleans is looking more like he should be hung from one of the remaining oak trees.
I thought he had done that before Katrina hit. Nice to have the link.
Back to the top. IF you like an article and want it to be at the top of the list people see when they log in but don't have anything to add to the discussion. You say BTTT which causes the system to move it up the que.
Those in the MSM need to be reminded of this AP article.
He did. The link to the article this thread is linked to is timed Stamped 11:47 Am Sunday Aug 27th. BEFORE the Hurrican hit.