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It was Bush that asked the Gov and Mayor to order a mandatory evacuation, NOT their idea at all.
CNN ^ | Sunday, August 28, 2005; Posted: 11:47 a.m. EDT | CNN's David Mattingly, Susan Candiotti, Jacqui Jeras and Rob Marciano contributed to this report.

Posted on 09/02/2005 2:22:21 PM PDT by joinedafterattack

Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that it was President Bush that had called and urged the state to order the evacuation.

New Orleans orders evacuation Hurricane Katrina's winds nearly 175 mph

Sunday, August 28, 2005; Posted: 11:47 a.m. EDT (15:47 GMT)

NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin declared a state of emergency on Sunday and ordered a mandatory evacuation of the city as Hurricane Katrina churned toward the city with maximum sustained winds of nearly 175 mph.

All of Orleans Parish falls under the order except for necessary personnel in government, emergency and some other public service categories.

People who are unable to evacuate were told to immediately report to a designated shelter.

"I wish I had better news for you, but we are facing a storm that most of us have feared," Nagin said. "I do not want to create panic, but I do want the citizens to understand that this is very serious and it's of the highest nature."

Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that President Bush had called and urged the state to order the evacuation.

About 485,000 people live in the city, and many began evacuating before sunrise.

Blanco said that westbound traffic was heavy and that the state police was urging people to travel to the north or east.

Shelters have been set up at 10 sites, including the Superdome, for people who cannot leave the city for medical or other reasons, but Nagin said they should be used only as a "last resort." (See video from New Orleans, where not all are ready to leave)

He said people who must stay in the shelter should bring enough food, water and supplies to last several days.

The National Hurricane Center in Miami said low-lying areas along the Gulf Coast could expect storm surges of up to 25 feet as the Category 5 storm makes landfall early Monday.

Officials fear New Orleans is vulnerable because it sits an average of 6 feet below sea level. (Watch video of how New Orleans reacted to warning)

Nagin said the storm surge would likely topple the levy system that protects the city.

"It has the potential for a large loss of life," said Max Mayfield, director of the NHC. (Watch CNN meteorologist explain storm outlook)

Katrina is blamed for at least seven deaths in Florida, where it made landfall Thursday as a Category 1 hurricane. As much as 18 inches of rain fell in some areas, flooding streets and homes. (See video of the damage floodwaters left in one family's new house)

At 10 a.m. ET, Katrina was centered about 225 miles south-southeast of the mouth of the Mississippi River. It was moving to the west-northwest at about 12 mph.

NHC forecaster Ed Rappaport said Katrina's strength could fluctuate before it reaches shore but noted the difference between a high Category 4 and a low Category 5 was practically inconsequential.

"There will be extensive to potentially catastrophic damage to many structures ... and inland," he said. "We'll have a lot of trees that are going to come down, perhaps millions of trees. But the first threat is going to be the storm surge. You must get away from the coast now."

By 8:30 a.m. ET, the first bands of rain were falling over southeastern Louisiana.

CNN meteorologist Brad Huffines said the Katrina would come ashore "sometime between 5 a.m. and 8 a.m." Monday.

"The news doesn't get good, unfortunately," he said. "These rain showers will slow down the evacuation process, and that means you need to hit the road quickly, very quickly."

Worst-case scenario In worst-case scenarios, most of New Orleans would end up under 15 feet of water, without electricity, clean water and sewage for months. Even pumping the water out could take as long as four months to get started because the massive pumps that would do the job would be underwater.

"People in New Orleans tend to think that the storm we've always planned on would never come," Louisiana National Guard Lt. Col. Pete Schneider said. "But people need to heed that warning."

Rappaport cautioned that New Orleans was not the only area threatened -- the storm's hurricane winds spread out as far as 100 miles. As far east as Mobile, Alabama, forecasters warned of storm surges reaching 8 to 10 feet.

Hurricane warnings were posted from Morgan City, Louisiana, eastward to the Alabama-Florida state line, including New Orleans and Lake Pontchartrain. A hurricane warning means hurricane conditions, including winds of at least 74 mph, are expected in the warning area within the next 24 hours.

A tropical storm warning and a hurricane watch were issued from the Alabama-Florida state line eastward to Destin, Florida, and from west of Morgan City to Intracoastal City, Louisiana. Another tropical storm warning was issued Sunday from Intracoastal City, Louisiana, west to Cameron, Louisiana, and from Destin, Florida, eastward to Indian Pass, Florida.

A tropical storm warning means tropical storm conditions, including winds of at least 39 mph, are expected within 24 hours. A hurricane watch means hurricane conditions are possible, usually within 36 hours.

Governors of both Louisiana and Mississippi declared emergencies Friday in anticipation of the strengthening storm.

Robert Latham, director of the Mississippi Emergency Management Agency, said the state was recommending evacuations along the coast "and even several counties inland." Mandatory evacuations could follow later, he said.

Category 5 is the highest category on the Saffir-Simpson scale of hurricane intensity. Only three Category 5 hurricanes have made landfall in the United States since records were kept. Those were the Labor Day hurricane of 1935, 1969's Hurricane Camille and Hurricane Andrew, which devastated the Miami area in 1992. Andrew remains the costliest U.S. hurricane on record, with $26.5 billion in losses.

Camille came ashore in Mississippi and killed 256 people.

Oil production cut U.S. energy companies said U.S. Gulf of Mexico crude oil output was cut by more than one-third on Saturday due to the threatening storm, Reuters reported.

The Gulf of Mexico is home to roughly a quarter of U.S. domestic oil and gas output, with a capacity to produce about 1.5 million barrels per day of crude and 12.3 billion cubic feet per day of gas. (Full story)

Many oil platforms and rigs in the Gulf of Mexico have been evacuated. ((Watch the video of drilling crews securing rigs and seeking safety.)

CNN's David Mattingly, Susan Candiotti, Jacqui Jeras and Rob Marciano contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: blamegame; blanco; bush; cary; evacuation; hurricane; incompetence; katrina; katrinafailures; nagin; nagini; neworleans; neworleansflood; pajamapeoplerule
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To: Temple Owl
Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that President Bush had called and urged the state to order the evacuation.

Dubya is going to end up being the hero in this.

301 posted on 09/03/2005 6:13:25 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: LoofaBoy
Is anyone feeling comfortable right now with the potential for another terrorist attack of the magnitude of 9/11 when this is what we can expect for a response???

Anyone whose post-attack survival depends on the government is a fool. Have a disaster kit, and plan for at least a week without help. Arm yourself. Look out for your neighbors, and help those you can. People need to be able to take care of themselves for a LEAST a few days.

302 posted on 09/03/2005 6:48:00 AM PDT by eyespysomething (Quid quid latine dictum sit, altum videtur)
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To: joinedafterattack

BTTT!


303 posted on 09/03/2005 8:28:48 AM PDT by The Mayor ( Pray as if everything depends on God; work as if everything depends on you.)
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To: The Mayor
 

For all MEDIA as you prepare the Sunday talk Shows... Here is the research YOU WON'T DO..!

Quick summary:

It takes 72 hours to evacuate New Orleans.

The state of emergency was declared on Friday. Katrina was forecast to make landfall in Louisiana as a Category 4 storm as of Friday at 7:00 PM CDT.

The voluntary evacuation notice was given Saturday afternoon at 2:30 PM CDT.

The mandatory evacuation order was given Sunday at 9:30 AM CDT.

The storm hit the Louisiana coast on Monday morning at 6:00 AM CDT.


304 posted on 09/03/2005 8:47:52 AM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: joinedafterattack

Bump for the timeline


305 posted on 09/03/2005 9:36:08 AM PDT by Fawn (Being a FREE COUNTRY doesn't mean EVERYTHING'S FOR FREE!!!!!!!)
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To: Peach

"MSNBC say that Bush didn't order the National Guard into NO before the hurricane"

Why would he? There was a mandatory evacuation. It wouldn't have been wise to deploy National Guard into the strom. The local government is responsible for the evacuation of the people because the local government controls the city and school buses that need to be used.

Unfortunately, the local and state leaders ran to their ivory towers for safety, and even now instead of helping people they run to the MSM for safety from blame.

God bliss our President.


306 posted on 09/03/2005 9:48:17 AM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com (There is no truth in the news, and no news in the truth.)
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To: SuziQ

ping.


307 posted on 09/03/2005 10:20:05 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: Mo1; PhiKapMom

Thanks for the ping. PKM, thanks for the ping to the Who's To Blame article.

I'm bookmarking both of these for later read.


308 posted on 09/03/2005 12:14:17 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (I'm a proud adorer of the Cross. Up yours, Zarqawi.)
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To: freema

Freema - I have decided, personally, that I need to really be knowledgeable about the truth -- "the truth will set you free."

The truth is our greatest weapon. Said simply and matter-of-factly, it usually causes most libs to back down, because all they do is parrot the talking points.

There was a great article in Free Republic a couple weeks back written by a script writer in Hollywood. He was Jewish and a Republican. He said most of Hollywood is liberal and hates Republicans and President Bush but they are woefully uninformed. Basically, they know nothing. And they don't care.


309 posted on 09/03/2005 12:16:04 PM PDT by bethtopaz (We will not allow another generation of heroes to be forsaken. -- NewLand, from Free Republic)
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To: Mo1

CNN has scrubbed the original article. Glad it got posted here.


310 posted on 09/03/2005 12:21:45 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (I'm a proud adorer of the Cross. Up yours, Zarqawi.)
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To: prairiebreeze
CNN has scrubbed the original article,

They did?

Well .. too late, there were a number of freepers that already saved it

311 posted on 09/03/2005 12:39:33 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Mo1

Scrubbed it or changed the text, I believe. My internet connection is slow though, and I had an error on a page I was trying to load that had the link. Perhaps saw something else.


312 posted on 09/03/2005 12:44:56 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (I'm a proud adorer of the Cross. Up yours, Zarqawi.)
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To: timestax

bump


313 posted on 09/03/2005 1:41:10 PM PDT by timestax
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To: joinedafterattack

Bookmarked. Thanks.


314 posted on 09/03/2005 2:42:06 PM PDT by syriacus (You can't fool Mother Nature. Why didn't New Orleans codes require lifeboats for each residence?)
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To: syriacus

bttt


315 posted on 09/03/2005 2:49:18 PM PDT by battleax
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To: bethtopaz

Me too, Beth, me too. Silly thing is, it's mostly common sense. But that, armed with the truth, is deadly to RATS arguments. Wouldn't it be funny if Bush made a statement, snuck it into one of his addresses, oh dear, I'm ROTFLMBO! THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE! Gotta go, I think I banged my head falling out of the chair. LOL! But before I go, I just need to D DOUBLE DOG TRIPLE DOGE DARE YOU, W!


316 posted on 09/03/2005 2:59:13 PM PDT by freema (Ready to Rock AND Roll)
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317 posted on 09/03/2005 3:17:55 PM PDT by syriacus (You can't fool Mother Nature. Why didn't New Orleans codes require lifeboats for each residence?)
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To: rit
Bump and mark for future reference!
318 posted on 09/03/2005 3:46:15 PM PDT by Rose in RoseBear (HHD [... handy! ...])
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To: freema

you are too funny! have a great labor day weekend. hey, here in sacramento, a local businessman named Gold shut his business down for two weeks and is taking donations of supplies and money and is getting ready to take a caravan of supplies, etc. down to the Gulf in the next couple of days.


319 posted on 09/03/2005 5:12:42 PM PDT by bethtopaz (We will not allow another generation of heroes to be forsaken. -- NewLand, from Free Republic)
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To: sarasmom; OldFriend; Royal Wulff; kenth
Within the last year Florida and other States on the Gulf Coast have begun changing their hurricane planning to reflect the reality that you can't evacuate everyone. There isn't enough fuel available. Possibly 25 to 30 percent of the population may be able to leave but the rest will have to stay. There are no other options. People in low areas and in mobile homes are told to move to shelters but everyone else is advised to find a windowless room in their home and wait out the storm.

Basically if you can keep the windows and roof on your home you will survive. But if you don't get supplies to people within a short time they will begin dieing. That is where FEMA has made their mistakes. Time is too critical to wait to organize a plan, then put together truck convoys, and establish centralized food and water distribution points. That plan takes several days to execute. Hundreds of people are dead in New Orleans because of that plan.

There is absolutely no technical reason why pallets of food, water, tarps, cheap plastic umbrellas, and first aid kits couldn't be dropped by C130 aircraft within a few hours after the storm has passed. Drop one pallet every few blocks throughout the city and people will be able to survive for several days. They may not be comfortable but they will be alive when the ground convoys can reach the area.

After last years hurricanes in Florida FEMA had plenty of opportunities to learn from their mistakes but they did nothing. That is criminal negligence and the leadership should be indicted for felony manslaughter.

320 posted on 09/03/2005 5:28:31 PM PDT by LPM1888 (What are the facts? Again and again and again -- what are the facts? - Lazarus Long)
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To: LPM1888
This catastrophy is unique in that when the storm passed with minimal damage to New Orleans everyone thought they were home free.

The flood arrived and the rest is history.

The true storm damage hit Mississippi and Alabama.

321 posted on 09/03/2005 5:41:27 PM PDT by OldFriend (MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH ~ A NATIONAL TREASURE)
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To: theOffice

bttt


322 posted on 09/03/2005 5:46:00 PM PDT by timestax
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To: OldFriend
This catastrophy is unique in that when the storm passed with minimal damage to New Orleans everyone thought they were home free.

The flood arrived and the rest is history.

The true storm damage hit Mississippi and Alabama.

BS! FEMA has known for decades what effect a CAT 4 or 5 storm would have on New Orleans and that the worst possible scenario was for the storm path to be slightly east of the city. There is no excuse for FEMAs actions. We still have three months left in hurricane season, leaving the same people in charge of FEMA is putting millions of peoples lives at risk. What are we supposed to do wait around for the next storm to kill more people?

FEMA MUST BE REORGANIZED NOW!!!

323 posted on 09/03/2005 6:26:59 PM PDT by LPM1888 (What are the facts? Again and again and again -- what are the facts? - Lazarus Long)
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To: bethtopaz

You have a good one too. Isn't that something to see, how GOOD people can be.


324 posted on 09/03/2005 6:46:03 PM PDT by freema (Ready to Rock AND Roll)
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To: patriciaruth
thanks for the ping.

It's insane to blame this thing on Bush. There's something about the Corps of Engineers not maintaining the levees that mights have some relevance WRT Bush. I haven't read into that situation enough to have an opinion. But in general, it was a natural disaster out of his hands, followed by miserable leadership at city and state level. Had the mayor and governor been able to spark a brain cell between them, there would have been far fewer people impacted by the levee collapse. Also, the complete social breakdown could have been minimized with some ruthless treatment at the first signs of looting.

The leadership and social conditions in NOLA all reflect generations of unchecked leftist corruption.

325 posted on 09/03/2005 7:28:21 PM PDT by TEEHEE
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To: LPM1888
Disaster plans need to be formulated by local governments, and executed by local authority. You cannot pass every responsibility up to the federal level. It is not tenable. Those who lived in NO knew well they were in a particularly dangerous position, and should have planned accordingly. Just as people in Boston have to prepare for big snow storms, or those in Topeka for the possibility of a tornado. You think the federal government should airlift snow plows into Boston if they get hit with a snowstorm?

People can survive many days, or weeks without food, not so many without water. I'm as perplexed as you as to why bladders of water were not dropped into areas where survivors were congregating. But I think that the local or state governments are responsible for preparing for such a contingency (you know, communities of people choosing to live in a particular area). Blaming the federal government for the problem is a sheer liberal, big government, cradle-to-grave dependency that addles the American spirit, capability and morale. Oh, and by the way, is a road to ruin.

326 posted on 09/03/2005 8:14:58 PM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: LPM1888

There are lots of good arguments that posit that FEMA should be disolved - it will always be incapable of handling emergencies in local areas in quick time, and it lulls communities into believing that they do not have to watch out for themselves when assuming survival risks that would overwhelm the unprepared. Need I point out the obvious examples as proof?


327 posted on 09/03/2005 8:23:43 PM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: kabar

From the Washington Post:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1476807/posts

Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal officials tried to wrest authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (D). Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the state's emergency operations center said Saturday.

""The administration sought unified control over all local police and state National Guard units reporting to the governor. Louisiana officials rejected the request after talks throughout the night, concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal declaration of martial law. Some officials in the state suspected a political motive behind the request. "Quite frankly, if they'd been able to pull off taking it away from the locals, they then could have blamed everything on the locals," said the source, who does not have the authority to speak publicly.

""A senior administration official said that Bush has clear legal authority to federalize National Guard units to quell civil disturbances under the Insurrection Act and will continue to try to unify the chains of command that are split among the president, the Louisiana governor and the New Orleans mayor.

""Louisiana did not reach out to a multi-state mutual aid compact for assistance until Wednesday, three state and federal officials said. As of Saturday, Blanco still had not declared a state of emergency, the senior Bush official said."


328 posted on 09/03/2005 8:29:39 PM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US. http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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To: Deb

Thanx, good find...


329 posted on 09/03/2005 8:37:06 PM PDT by bellas_sister ("Mr. Kennedy, did you know they found a dead girl in your car?")
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To: joinedafterattack

It figures.

Moronic Demoncrats ... .


330 posted on 09/03/2005 8:41:51 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: joinedafterattack

CNN had a weak moment and reported the truth for a change.

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:RGrwXIfpv8UJ:www.cnn.com/rssclick/2005/WEATHER/08/28/hurricane.katrina/%3Fsection%3Dcnn_topstories+president+bush+called+blanco+mandatory+evacuation+new+orleans&hl=en


331 posted on 09/03/2005 8:43:30 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: joinedafterattack

bump


332 posted on 09/03/2005 8:44:37 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: joinedafterattack
Lies, all LIES....

President Bush was on vacation, and could NOT have been informed or involved in any activity regarding monitoring or preparations for action or calling the Gov.of Louisiana and warning her to order evacuations and prepare for action..

HE WAS ON VACATION! </sarcasm>


Strange that the Democrats were uninterested that Clinton turned the Oval Office in the White House into a "Glory Hole" to have his staff deliver blow jobs while the country was being attacked by Islamist terrorists....

Democrats = rabble rousing, race baiting, greedy power crazed imbeciles who are more interested in TV face time and personal power than in the survival of the Republic...

Semper Fi
333 posted on 09/03/2005 9:15:58 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Thing is, not only are the obvious criminal types terrorists, so are the anti-American media, democrats, ACLU, EPA, ad nauseum. They all fight desperately against and hate a good President because they are evil. It all boils down to the fact that evil people hate good people and seek to destroy them. We need a major clean-up. A downright sea change. If you're not for America, then shut up or go somewhere else or we'll kick you out. Pres. Bush is the man. The absolutely best President in the history of the USA, IMHO.


334 posted on 09/04/2005 6:08:38 AM PDT by dimmer-rats stealvotes (We Conservatives Never Give Up!)
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To: bethtopaz

You should add FOX to the string of letters representing the media. FOX hides its true self. It gives much more to the DNC than the RNC. FOX is like the RINOs. Hypocritical. Enemy of Pres. Bush. Filled with Liberalism.


335 posted on 09/04/2005 6:26:57 AM PDT by dimmer-rats stealvotes (Catching onto the FOX Fonies)
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To: joinedafterattack

Someone here please get this mornings Today Show transcript of female reporter Campbell Brown interviewing Mayor Nagan. She is the first reporter to strictly and forcefully ask the Mayor why he didn't evacuate sooner and have a better disaster plan in place. The Mayor continually side stepped the questions directed at his inaction by shifting blame elsewhere.


336 posted on 09/04/2005 6:30:37 AM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: shield

bbumpity bump bump


337 posted on 09/01/2008 8:16:33 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Bet President Bush didn’t have to this time. ;o) Very hard lesson learned by LA...this tragedy turned LA Red...HA Got rid of Blanko elected a Republican Governor...look at the outcome of this awful mishandling by the locals...they screamed about Bush and the Republicans...now they are a Red state. How sweet is that.......


338 posted on 09/01/2008 11:05:53 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

Yep!

Jindal was very in control today!


339 posted on 09/01/2008 11:37:16 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
Ping!
340 posted on 09/02/2008 12:10:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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