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It was Bush that asked the Gov and Mayor to order a mandatory evacuation, NOT their idea at all.
CNN ^ | Sunday, August 28, 2005; Posted: 11:47 a.m. EDT | CNN's David Mattingly, Susan Candiotti, Jacqui Jeras and Rob Marciano contributed to this report.

Posted on 09/02/2005 2:22:21 PM PDT by joinedafterattack

Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that it was President Bush that had called and urged the state to order the evacuation.

New Orleans orders evacuation Hurricane Katrina's winds nearly 175 mph

Sunday, August 28, 2005; Posted: 11:47 a.m. EDT (15:47 GMT)

NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin declared a state of emergency on Sunday and ordered a mandatory evacuation of the city as Hurricane Katrina churned toward the city with maximum sustained winds of nearly 175 mph.

All of Orleans Parish falls under the order except for necessary personnel in government, emergency and some other public service categories.

People who are unable to evacuate were told to immediately report to a designated shelter.

"I wish I had better news for you, but we are facing a storm that most of us have feared," Nagin said. "I do not want to create panic, but I do want the citizens to understand that this is very serious and it's of the highest nature."

Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that President Bush had called and urged the state to order the evacuation.

About 485,000 people live in the city, and many began evacuating before sunrise.

Blanco said that westbound traffic was heavy and that the state police was urging people to travel to the north or east.

Shelters have been set up at 10 sites, including the Superdome, for people who cannot leave the city for medical or other reasons, but Nagin said they should be used only as a "last resort." (See video from New Orleans, where not all are ready to leave)

He said people who must stay in the shelter should bring enough food, water and supplies to last several days.

The National Hurricane Center in Miami said low-lying areas along the Gulf Coast could expect storm surges of up to 25 feet as the Category 5 storm makes landfall early Monday.

Officials fear New Orleans is vulnerable because it sits an average of 6 feet below sea level. (Watch video of how New Orleans reacted to warning)

Nagin said the storm surge would likely topple the levy system that protects the city.

"It has the potential for a large loss of life," said Max Mayfield, director of the NHC. (Watch CNN meteorologist explain storm outlook)

Katrina is blamed for at least seven deaths in Florida, where it made landfall Thursday as a Category 1 hurricane. As much as 18 inches of rain fell in some areas, flooding streets and homes. (See video of the damage floodwaters left in one family's new house)

At 10 a.m. ET, Katrina was centered about 225 miles south-southeast of the mouth of the Mississippi River. It was moving to the west-northwest at about 12 mph.

NHC forecaster Ed Rappaport said Katrina's strength could fluctuate before it reaches shore but noted the difference between a high Category 4 and a low Category 5 was practically inconsequential.

"There will be extensive to potentially catastrophic damage to many structures ... and inland," he said. "We'll have a lot of trees that are going to come down, perhaps millions of trees. But the first threat is going to be the storm surge. You must get away from the coast now."

By 8:30 a.m. ET, the first bands of rain were falling over southeastern Louisiana.

CNN meteorologist Brad Huffines said the Katrina would come ashore "sometime between 5 a.m. and 8 a.m." Monday.

"The news doesn't get good, unfortunately," he said. "These rain showers will slow down the evacuation process, and that means you need to hit the road quickly, very quickly."

Worst-case scenario In worst-case scenarios, most of New Orleans would end up under 15 feet of water, without electricity, clean water and sewage for months. Even pumping the water out could take as long as four months to get started because the massive pumps that would do the job would be underwater.

"People in New Orleans tend to think that the storm we've always planned on would never come," Louisiana National Guard Lt. Col. Pete Schneider said. "But people need to heed that warning."

Rappaport cautioned that New Orleans was not the only area threatened -- the storm's hurricane winds spread out as far as 100 miles. As far east as Mobile, Alabama, forecasters warned of storm surges reaching 8 to 10 feet.

Hurricane warnings were posted from Morgan City, Louisiana, eastward to the Alabama-Florida state line, including New Orleans and Lake Pontchartrain. A hurricane warning means hurricane conditions, including winds of at least 74 mph, are expected in the warning area within the next 24 hours.

A tropical storm warning and a hurricane watch were issued from the Alabama-Florida state line eastward to Destin, Florida, and from west of Morgan City to Intracoastal City, Louisiana. Another tropical storm warning was issued Sunday from Intracoastal City, Louisiana, west to Cameron, Louisiana, and from Destin, Florida, eastward to Indian Pass, Florida.

A tropical storm warning means tropical storm conditions, including winds of at least 39 mph, are expected within 24 hours. A hurricane watch means hurricane conditions are possible, usually within 36 hours.

Governors of both Louisiana and Mississippi declared emergencies Friday in anticipation of the strengthening storm.

Robert Latham, director of the Mississippi Emergency Management Agency, said the state was recommending evacuations along the coast "and even several counties inland." Mandatory evacuations could follow later, he said.

Category 5 is the highest category on the Saffir-Simpson scale of hurricane intensity. Only three Category 5 hurricanes have made landfall in the United States since records were kept. Those were the Labor Day hurricane of 1935, 1969's Hurricane Camille and Hurricane Andrew, which devastated the Miami area in 1992. Andrew remains the costliest U.S. hurricane on record, with $26.5 billion in losses.

Camille came ashore in Mississippi and killed 256 people.

Oil production cut U.S. energy companies said U.S. Gulf of Mexico crude oil output was cut by more than one-third on Saturday due to the threatening storm, Reuters reported.

The Gulf of Mexico is home to roughly a quarter of U.S. domestic oil and gas output, with a capacity to produce about 1.5 million barrels per day of crude and 12.3 billion cubic feet per day of gas. (Full story)

Many oil platforms and rigs in the Gulf of Mexico have been evacuated. ((Watch the video of drilling crews securing rigs and seeking safety.)

CNN's David Mattingly, Susan Candiotti, Jacqui Jeras and Rob Marciano contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: blamegame; blanco; bush; cary; evacuation; hurricane; incompetence; katrina; katrinafailures; nagin; nagini; neworleans; neworleansflood; pajamapeoplerule
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To: No Blue States

THAT graphic tells it all!


51 posted on 09/02/2005 2:39:10 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy since 1992!)
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To: joinedafterattack

Thanks for posting this for those who were not aware of this fact. It was reported last weekend, before the hurricane hit, that our President had made a phone call to the Governor to insist and/or demand that she order a complete evacuation.


52 posted on 09/02/2005 2:39:54 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: NavySEAL F-16
SAVED

Thank you NavySEAL F-16

53 posted on 09/02/2005 2:40:02 PM PDT by msnimje (TAKE CNN OFF YOUR REMOTE - THEY ARE THE ENEMY OF THE US)
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To: joinedafterattack
At the time she made the announcement, Gov. Blanco probably was happy to "blame" the President for the order, for then if the hurricane dodged New Orleans and people were upset that they had evacuated, then it was "the President's" fault.

As it is, the Governor should come out publicly now and thank the President for exercising the foresight and leadership to bring about the evacuation.

54 posted on 09/02/2005 2:41:03 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: steveegg; Trust but Verify
That's right. I live 350 miles east in FL and listened to the mandatory evac order on AM 870 wwl on Sunday morning.
55 posted on 09/02/2005 2:41:08 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil the institutions they control)
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To: joinedafterattack

Thanks for the link, I am going to slither through the sewer at DU and see if I can post it there, just to see if I get banned doing it. Every single person over there blames Bush, I wonder if maybe this can sway them a little. (snicker)


56 posted on 09/02/2005 2:41:14 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: joinedafterattack
Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that President Bush had called and urged the state to order the evacuation.

The Army Corp of Engineers commander has stated that the emergency preparedness plan for NO in case of anything higher than a Cat 3 hurricane was complete evacuation of NO.

The levees were not designed to withstand anything higher than a Cat 3 hurricane.

57 posted on 09/02/2005 2:41:19 PM PDT by oldbrowser (no one is right because no one is wrong)
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To: Mo1

But I just heard them an hour ago on MSNBC say that Bush didn't order the National Guard into NO before the hurricane to help those who didn't have resources to get out.

It's ALL the president's fault. 100%. According to the MSM.


58 posted on 09/02/2005 2:42:19 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: joinedafterattack

So if Bush hadn't urged the evavuation the gov and the mayor would have sat on their a$$e$ and the death toll would have been astronomical.


59 posted on 09/02/2005 2:42:26 PM PDT by Arkie2 (Mega super duper moose, whine, cheese, series, zot, viking kitties, barf alert!)
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To: joinedafterattack

BTTT


60 posted on 09/02/2005 2:42:35 PM PDT by LucyJo ("I have overcome the world." "Abide in Me." (John 16:33; 15:4)
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To: Miss Marple; ohioWfan; MJY1288; Wolfstar; snugs; Pippin; homemom; Brad's Gramma; JohnHuang2

a big fyi from an article before the hurricane hit


61 posted on 09/02/2005 2:42:43 PM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: All
Another bump. Image hosted by Photobucket.com
62 posted on 09/02/2005 2:43:51 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: joinedafterattack

http://www.news8austin.com/content/your_news/default.asp?ArID=144232

I posted this article a couple of days back on another thread. Read the last paragraph. It clearly states that what you are saying is FACT.

I am from Ohio, home to the least popular governor in the nation, Governor RINO Boob Taft, who was just convicted of ethics violations. As much as I rip on RINO Bob, I am pretty confident that he would be handling this situation much better than Governor Blanco currently is.

There are problems everywhere in that zone of destruction along the Gulf Coast. Yet, the folks in Mississippi and Alabama, along with certain parishes in Louisiana, have been handling themselves in an amazing way given the circumstances.


63 posted on 09/02/2005 2:44:17 PM PDT by Columbus Dawg (Go Bucks!)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

Thanks! Im glad you like it.

Live feed for NOLA:
A large house appears to be burning.
(carrolton ave)

http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/video/yahooPlayer.pl


64 posted on 09/02/2005 2:44:35 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: joinedafterattack

"Wha..?"
65 posted on 09/02/2005 2:44:56 PM PDT by Roscoe Karns
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To: Mo1

What this story doesn't tell you is that it was a voluntary evactuation order at the state and local level, and not a mandatory evacuation order, which the president ordered.


66 posted on 09/02/2005 2:45:25 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: Abathar
Like other Americans, I posted once at Duh and was banned immediately. Ironic how the the so called progressives ban speech they don't like, other than their own filth. Meanwhile, at FR we welcome the lefty loony tunes.
67 posted on 09/02/2005 2:45:44 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil the institutions they control)
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To: joinedafterattack

Excellent find. Won't mean a thing to the moonbats.


68 posted on 09/02/2005 2:45:45 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 ( Heaven on Earth is where the nearest Starbucks is 60 miles away.)
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To: joinedafterattack

MARK


69 posted on 09/02/2005 2:46:11 PM PDT by Jaded (Hell sometimes has fluorescent lighting and a trumpet.)
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To: Peach
But I just heard them an hour ago on MSNBC say that Bush didn't order the National Guard into NO before the hurricane to help those who didn't have resources to get out.

They are gonna choke on their words

I have sick of their BS in trying to make up things to blame the President for

70 posted on 09/02/2005 2:46:27 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: shield

Proving once again that repubs know what to do and they also know how paralyzed and afraid and cowardly democrats are.

Good on ya Mr. President !! At least you were looking out for the people - even if the stinking democrats won't give you credit.


71 posted on 09/02/2005 2:46:32 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: msnimje
Bump...

Waiting for the LSM to report this... (crickets)

72 posted on 09/02/2005 2:47:28 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (The modern Democratic Party: Attacking our defenders and defending our attackers.)
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To: Abathar
Thanks for the link, I am going to slither through the sewer at DU and see if I can post it there, just to see if I get banned doing it. Every single person over there blames Bush, I wonder if maybe this can sway them a little. (snicker)

You off your meds again?

73 posted on 09/02/2005 2:47:50 PM PDT by KStorm (Big Media's dying, but they're making it look like a parade.)
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To: CyberAnt

Bush believes what Reagan did. A good leader isn't worried about who gets the credit.


74 posted on 09/02/2005 2:48:11 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Trust but Verify

Please, until Sunday, they really didn't know it was headed straight for New Orleans.


75 posted on 09/02/2005 2:48:21 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Chena

Thank you. I was in Sarasota and that's what I remember, but I cannot find any citation to the time of that call. If you find it please pass it on to me


76 posted on 09/02/2005 2:49:06 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: GeneralStorm

nope, but I did put on my mental hazmat suit before I went though.


77 posted on 09/02/2005 2:49:14 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: joinedafterattack
Thank you for this! I am so sick of the msm and liberals in general blaming Bush for this disaster.
What in the world would have happened if they never called for a mandatory evacuation?

As to the pictures of the school buses, I could never understand why they did not assist those without cars to evacuate with any buses that might be available, and then to see these buses just sitting in water blows my mind.
Unbelieveable.
78 posted on 09/02/2005 2:49:18 PM PDT by maridee
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To: joinedafterattack

Ancient history - no one will recall this. We need to keep this up front.


79 posted on 09/02/2005 2:50:13 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: Abathar

"Mental Hazmat Suit"...

I'm gonna use that one, thanks!


80 posted on 09/02/2005 2:50:43 PM PDT by KStorm (Big Media's dying, but they're making it look like a parade.)
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To: shield

Link doesn't work. That was quick.


81 posted on 09/02/2005 2:50:58 PM PDT by Raebie
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To: joinedafterattack
I've said for a number of years on FR, that, for starters, we need to actually declare GANG MEMBERS as domestic terrorists, officially, through laws, and if possible suspension of Constitutional Rights for them, and consider them dangerous fifth columnists, placed in enemy combatant status, and completely disarm all gangs (150,000 members alone in LA) in a massive, long term, national military sweep. Illegal aliens should also NOW all be deported!! Screw the ACLU, MALDEF, John Edwards and Jesse Jackson. The great majority of the American People will not anymore stand for it. There is no more tolerance of vast sums of criminals like this in our major cities no different than terrorists. It is untenable that we can allow such to live or exist in our country on the streets. Ghettos are NOT just 'their' problem. It, and their criminal elements, are A NATIONAL SECURITY INTERNAL VULNERABILITY.

If, after this New Orleans fiasco, gangs are able to continue to exist in huge numbers in SF, Chicago, Detroit, NYC, Washington, Baltimore, Atlanta, Boston, Memphis, you name it, then we are a nation are truly screwed...for the integrity of our cities CAN NOT BE GUARANTEED in the event of a major pandemic, or weapons of mass destruction attack such as a suitcase nuke.

82 posted on 09/02/2005 2:51:39 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (USA should be studied by StateDept. as a "Foreign Country". Then will see OUR insurgents and chaos.)
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To: Chena

I second that thanks for the post. People have short memories. Another good Freep! I love the Internet!!!!!


83 posted on 09/02/2005 2:52:23 PM PDT by rip033 (.)
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To: joinedafterattack

From the Google cache can? Why wouldn't CNN have this story still up?


84 posted on 09/02/2005 2:52:26 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: faithincowboys

That's BS. Look at the predicted storm track as of Friday.


85 posted on 09/02/2005 2:52:26 PM PDT by Trust but Verify (( ))
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To: All

BTTT


86 posted on 09/02/2005 2:52:27 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (In Tampa Bay praying for all In Katrina's path.)
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To: MNJohnnie

This was from CNN? WOW.


87 posted on 09/02/2005 2:53:03 PM PDT by IrishGOP
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To: dfwgator

EXACTLY!!


88 posted on 09/02/2005 2:54:00 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: joinedafterattack

Great find.

The left has gone blog crazy forwarding the rants from the mayor and Lord Ho Ho (Michael Moore) blaming Bush for the flood.

I've gotten sick of their partisan crap.

I support the President but I don't support the flood.


89 posted on 09/02/2005 2:54:24 PM PDT by weegee (The Rovebaiting by DUAC must stop. It is nothing but a partisan witchhunt.)
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To: joinedafterattack

Bump for later read.


90 posted on 09/02/2005 2:54:31 PM PDT by Lady In Blue (Pope Benedict XVI: THE CAFETERIA IS NOW CLOSED)
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To: AD from SpringBay

Yes, I do wonder why CNN's version is different. And no mention of President Bush asking for the evacuation. Hmmmm?!?


91 posted on 09/02/2005 2:54:45 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: joinedafterattack

Of course Bush was on top of this. We all know that. I would like to focus on the rescue and recovery aspect but these donkeys keep wanting to go political on this.


92 posted on 09/02/2005 2:54:50 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: joinedafterattack

Bump


93 posted on 09/02/2005 2:56:04 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I don't know but Scare America has been postulating that in Bush's mind (Karl Rove?) there is no emergency federal support for Democrat cities and strongholds.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.


94 posted on 09/02/2005 2:57:17 PM PDT by weegee (The Rovebaiting by DUAC must stop. It is nothing but a partisan witchhunt.)
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To: RGSpincich
Of course Bush was on top of this. We all know that. I would like to focus on the rescue and recovery aspect but these donkeys keep wanting to go political on this.

Yep, would of been MORE then willing to declare a temp truce with my fellow Democrat Citizens too. Unfortunately the scum in the "News Media" have to hype this up instead of just REPORTING the News. For eample the Levees should be plugged by this time tomorrow.

95 posted on 09/02/2005 2:57:30 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Conservatives...lack sufficient cynicism to properly assess the nature of their liberal opponents)
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To: the Real fifi

I'll try to find out when President Bush made that call. I'm sure it is documented somewhere. Maybe another FReeper may also have this information. I'm just furious about the politicizing of this national tragedy by those whose main focus is to tear down President Bush. It's sick and disgusting, and THAT is an understatement.


96 posted on 09/02/2005 2:58:53 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: joinedafterattack

bttt


97 posted on 09/02/2005 3:00:13 PM PDT by Chicos_Bail_Bonds
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To: maridee

"...I could never understand why they did not assist those without cars to evacuate with any buses that might be available..."

They'll probably blame W because gasoline prices were too high and they couldn't afford it.


98 posted on 09/02/2005 3:00:36 PM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: joinedafterattack
It would be interesting to get a timeline on when Bush called and how much time elapsed before ordering the mandatory evacuation. I watched the announcement by the Governor and Mayor on Sunday morning, August 28. Mississippi did a little better.

"Gov. Haley Barbour declared a state of emergency on Saturday and forecasters predicted the storm to make landfall anywhere from the Florida Panhandle to Louisiana.

Mike Womak, deputy director of the Mississippi Emergency Management Agency, said that Hancock County was the only area of the state under a mandatory evacuation order on Saturday afternoon.

"However, all three coastal counties are in the process of making their final preparations for issuing their evacuation notices," Womak said, adding the orders could be issued Saturday or Sunday."

"The director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency also urged people to heed the orders."

"I'm very concerned about people in Mississippi and Louisiana who have watched these storms the past two years hit Florida and Alabama and may have a little lackadaisical attitude toward this thing," FEMA director Michael Brown told AP Radio.

Hurricane Katrina could plow through Mississippi beginning as early as Monday

99 posted on 09/02/2005 3:00:59 PM PDT by kabar
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To: loveliberty2
At the time she made the announcement, Gov. Blanco probably was happy to "blame" the President for the order, for then if the hurricane dodged New Orleans and people were upset that they had evacuated, then it was "the President's" fault.

EXACTLY

Somebody ought to shove this up Chrissy Mathews BUTT

He was falling all over himself complementing the GOV on the great job she did
That was before the levee broke
100 posted on 09/02/2005 3:01:12 PM PDT by uncbob
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