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Blanco buses on the BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4210646.stm ^ | 9/3/2005 | 9/3/2005

Posted on 09/03/2005 6:39:25 AM PDT by ChadGore

In this short video (Real Media 34k stream). . at the very begining . . the 2nd sceen, shows yet another dozen unused blanco buses!

The print story is here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4210646.stm

Under the first image is a link that says "VIDEO Aid Finally arrives".

The URI for the RV Video is here:

rtsp://.../09012da6800242eb_16x9_nb.rm?title="BBC"&author=""©right="(C) British Broadcasting Corporation"


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: bbc; blanco; blancobuses; buses; busing; incompetence; katrina; katrinafailures; nagin; neworleans; unused
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To: usmcobra

The damned bastards.


201 posted on 09/03/2005 2:25:57 PM PDT by berkeleybeej (http://www.cattletoday.com/)
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To: dogcaller
The only question is has Al ever done 110 Miles Per Hour?

Does any fellow freeper know ?


202 posted on 09/03/2005 2:26:01 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: berkeleybeej

It's a shame Al Sharpton only does 110 in Texas.


203 posted on 09/03/2005 2:30:08 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: berkeleybeej

bttt


204 posted on 09/03/2005 2:38:52 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: berkeleybeej

bump


205 posted on 09/03/2005 2:39:07 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: KJC1

more information over here, in case you haven't seen it


206 posted on 09/03/2005 2:48:58 PM PDT by feefee (rovian salt carrier)
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To: ChadGore
Try this one, the plan.
207 posted on 09/03/2005 3:27:21 PM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: SouthTexas
Most of the comments, reports, links, and other information is on the Live Kat thread. Might be a tad difficult to find since there are quite a few now.

Difficult? Why? There's only about 45,000 posts on those threads!

208 posted on 09/03/2005 4:15:59 PM PDT by Fresh Wind
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To: onyx eyes; aculeus
As Governor, her top priorities include: providing affordable, accessible healthcare, improving the state’s education system, and creating a strong and vibrant a new pool of government dependent voters economy.
209 posted on 09/03/2005 5:42:34 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (To the world you may be one person, but to one person you may be the world)
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To: Lijahsbubbe

bttt


210 posted on 09/03/2005 5:51:38 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: Fresh Wind

Actually it's probably not for some FReepers. ;)


211 posted on 09/03/2005 7:37:38 PM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: SouthTexas

bttt


212 posted on 09/04/2005 4:14:02 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: berkeleybeej

bump


213 posted on 09/04/2005 4:14:12 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: ChadGore

Incredibly sad photos on this thread when you think about the numbers of folks that could have been evacuated. Nagin's comments about the lack of bathrooms doesn't jeehaw with the 100 mile gas tank capacity. Sounds like they could have stopped for bathroom breaks every two hours.

I work next door to our city school bus yard and would guess we have about 200 buses parked in that lot. It is the only bus barn we have, and that number of buses serves the needs for children of a population of 50,000. It's feasible that NO has 10 of these bus barns.


214 posted on 09/04/2005 4:40:23 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Quilla


The manditory evacuation did not happen until Sunday.


215 posted on 09/04/2005 4:48:11 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: Quilla

bttt


216 posted on 09/04/2005 4:48:34 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: Quilla

bttt


217 posted on 09/04/2005 5:35:07 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: berkeleybeej

bttt


218 posted on 09/04/2005 5:51:35 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: beckysueb

bttt


219 posted on 09/04/2005 6:09:55 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: Galtoid

bttt


220 posted on 09/04/2005 6:23:40 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: Clara Lou

221 posted on 09/04/2005 6:27:35 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: bonfire

222 posted on 09/04/2005 6:28:10 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: Galtoid

bttt


223 posted on 09/04/2005 6:54:41 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Education rebump.


224 posted on 09/04/2005 7:30:07 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: ChadGore

Thank you, makes my heart just ache to see what really happened.


225 posted on 09/04/2005 7:41:39 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

bump


226 posted on 09/04/2005 9:44:47 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: Just mythoughts

bttt


227 posted on 09/04/2005 11:26:03 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: ChadGore

knowledge is power


228 posted on 09/04/2005 12:18:00 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: berkeleybeej

"The damned bastards." Echo that.

In truth and actuality a great many people could have been bused out way ahead of a category 5 storm which the weather forecasters said over and over again would make a direct hit on New Orleans, Louisiana....


229 posted on 09/04/2005 2:36:55 PM PDT by onyx eyes (.... we make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give.)
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To: SouthTexas
I heard the NO mayor said he didn't use the school buses because they didn't have bathrooms. If that is a true statement it is un freaking believable! So he sent them to the SuperDome where neither the bathrooms OR the A/C worked. There are PLENTY of restrooms between NO and Houston. sheesh!
230 posted on 09/04/2005 2:47:09 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

He also wanted Greyhounds.


231 posted on 09/04/2005 2:53:13 PM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: ChadGore

I went to this site

http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/katrina/KATRINA0000.HTM

in an attempt to look at the other RTA facilities

There is one lot at 3900 Desire Parkway (which, using the google hybrid map option, looks like it may be next to the schoolbus lot in the pic you put up) and another lot at 8201 Willow Street. The admin building is at 6700 Plaza Drive, but I haven't tried to look at that yet.

Do you know if these have been put up somewhere here already? I would like to see them.


232 posted on 09/04/2005 2:58:49 PM PDT by feefee (rovian salt carrier)
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To: feefee

got that google map link ?


233 posted on 09/04/2005 3:25:05 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: ChadGore

http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=3900+Desire+Parkway,+New+Orleans,+LA

http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=8201+Willow+Street,+New+Orleans,+LA

http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=6700+Plaza+Drive,+New+Orleans,+LA

the one for the Desire Parkway lot does show some vehicles, Willow Street looks to be an enclosed building of some kind, and I haven't tried the admin building


234 posted on 09/04/2005 3:29:51 PM PDT by feefee (rovian salt carrier)
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To: feefee

Desire Parkway is missing most of it's buses, I compared before and after pictures.

Willow street is the Streetcar barn and factory for all the new streetcars New Orleans has been building as well as it's existing stock.

This leads to a question, what happened to all of Desire Parkway's buses?

They are either in the barn which I doubt or elsewhere in the city or out of the city.


235 posted on 09/04/2005 6:02:10 PM PDT by usmcobra
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To: usmcobra

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=New+Orleans&ll=29.987687,-90.045748&spn=0.004396,0.007522&t=e&hl=en


236 posted on 09/04/2005 7:37:00 PM PDT by usmcobra
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To: usmcobra
Willow street is the Streetcar barn and factory for all the new streetcars New Orleans has been building as well as it's existing stock.

NTD has NORTA listed with 43 light rail vehicles, I'm figuring these are the streetcars.

This leads to a question, what happened to all of Desire Parkway's buses?

NORTA has 364 buses and 68 paratransit/demand response vehicles. I think I saw somewhere the number of 150 or 154 buses in the Canal St. lot pic, I got up to around 80 and then my eyes started to cross (but that was only the buses in the two rows closest to the parking lot).

If you take out the ones that are in the Canal St. lot, the remainder in the Desire Parkway lot, and figure in an additional 20 or so in the shop, that is still around 170 to 180 fixed route buses.

They are either in the barn which I doubt or elsewhere in the city or out of the city.

I checked the Convention Center and the Superdome (link below, you will probably need to copy and paste it), but I can't see them. I don't think they could be stored in a parking deck, unless it was constructed to hold vehicles of that weight (and height) for an extended period of time. If we figure they are 35'-40' buses, they would take up a bit of space. I don't know where else to look for them right now, unless I just wander around the google Katrina map, looking for them.

http://www.google.com/maps?li=lmd&hl=en&q=convention+center+loc:+New+Orleans,+LA&num=10&cid=29954444,-90075000,15280481581712738183&radius=0.000000&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

237 posted on 09/04/2005 7:38:47 PM PDT by feefee (rovian salt carrier)
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To: usmcobra

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=New+Orleans&ll=29.963430,-90.075992&spn=0.004397,0.007522&t=e&hl=en


238 posted on 09/04/2005 7:41:58 PM PDT by usmcobra
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To: SouthTexas

Cars don't have bathrooms either. It's called taking a break while fueling the vehicle, if the trip is long enough. What is Nagin's IQ?!


239 posted on 09/04/2005 7:48:07 PM PDT by skr
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I found at least two sites which I believe are RTA Buses within walking distance of the Super Dome, one with a lot of buses next to the projects at St.Louis St. and N. Claiborne Ave. and the other at the Canal st bus barn.


240 posted on 09/04/2005 8:03:54 PM PDT by usmcobra
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To: feefee

Bump


241 posted on 09/04/2005 8:05:37 PM PDT by usmcobra
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To: skr

Those belonging to rich Republicans do! The big bad corporate automakers won't sell them to poor dims.


242 posted on 09/04/2005 8:05:58 PM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: usmcobra

my god

if those are the rest of them, so many vehicles available, jabbar (sp?) proved anyone can drive a bus, not just bus drivers.


243 posted on 09/04/2005 8:06:23 PM PDT by feefee (rovian salt carrier)
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To: Doe Eyes

you bring up a good point...hurricane fatigue would LONG have taught NO residents to simply ignore the buses that come to take them away a couple of times a year or risk their homes being robbed, etc. On the other hand, by saturday night I think the evacuation should have been ordered, regardless of who heeded it. Waiting until less than 24 hours before landfall, on a sunday, is pathetic.

I think the bigger failure was the failure to declare martial law or the napoleonic equivalent and send the LNG into new orleans immediately on monday post-storm. No excuse for that at all. The LA governor is going to fall over this.


244 posted on 09/04/2005 8:54:17 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: usmcobra

I'm trying out that noaa site again, to see if the image is any different from the one google provides.

Ran into this one, below, I wonder what those transit/school buses are doing there, at the top of the pic. There are more school buses about 3/4 of the way down the left-hand side of the page.

http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/storms/katrina/24428420.jpg


245 posted on 09/04/2005 9:09:45 PM PDT by feefee (rovian salt carrier)
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To: usmcobra
...New Orleans officials told the Times-Picayune in July of this year that they would dedicate 64 city buses and 10 lift vans, as well as potentially school buses and Amtrak trains, to help people flee the city in the event of a serious hurricane threat. But they also acknowledged that would not meet the potential need.

According to the Louisiana Transit Resource Guide...New Orleans has 364 city buses in its fleet. Why officials did not plan to dedicate more buses to an evacuation effort was not explained to the Times-Picayune.

Instead, in July, public officials began videotaping messages for distribution by DVD warning residents to begin making their own advance plans for emergency evacuation in case of a hurricane. According to the Times-Picayune, the messages, which were to be released this September, informed New Orleans residents that they were to be largely responsible for their own safety.

I would include more of the article, but I'm not familiar with the copyright stuff. The link is below, yet again, you need to copy and paste it. Nice of them to prepare DVD's with evacuation information. I'm really beginning to wonder about the RTA, I have a link around here somewhere concerning a federal investigation into the money down there.

http://newstandardnews.net/content/?action=show_item&itemid=2322

246 posted on 09/04/2005 9:56:39 PM PDT by feefee (rovian salt carrier)
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To: ChadGore
It's a shame Al Sharpton only does 110 in Texas.

Hmmm. 110? Always 110? Or 220?

Whatever it takes...

Ron Richardson: Yeah? Are you gonna make it all 220?

Jack Butler: Yeah. 220... 221, whatever it takes.

247 posted on 09/04/2005 10:13:28 PM PDT by sayfer bullets
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To: ChadGore

bus pic ping


248 posted on 09/04/2005 10:42:33 PM PDT by feefee (rovian salt carrier)
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To: feefee

What follows is from a NOLA. Com article

KATRINA TAKES AIM
Sunday, August 28, 2005
By Bruce Nolan
Staff writer

(snip)


Nagin spokeswoman Tami Frazier stressed that the mayor does not want citizens to plan on staying in the Dome -- instead, they should make arrangements to leave the city if possible.

"We don't anticipate having to turn people away," Frazier said. "But (staying in the Dome) should not be a situation that you're counting on."

Nagin added, "No weapons, no large items, and bring small quantities of food for three or four days, to be safe."

The Regional Transit Authority will deploy 10 buses equipped with a special lift to help handicapped residents get to the Superdome this morning, RTA spokeswoman Rosalind Blanco Cook said.

Once at the Dome, residents' needs will be assessed. Those who are critically ill will be taken by ambulance to a medical facility in Baton Rouge, she said. Others will be brought to Baton Rouge in the paratransit buses.

Beginning at noon, as officials prepare to open the Dome as a shelter of last resort, the RTA will begin ferrying passengers to the facility from 12 locations around the city. Those locations are:

-- Arthur Monday Senior Citizens Center, 1111 Newton St.

-- E.J. Morris Senior Center, 1616 Caffin Ave.

-- Eleanor McMain Magnet Secondary School, 5712 S. Claiborne Ave.

-- Warren Easton Fundamental High School, 3019 Canal St.

-- Sylvanie F. Williams School, 3127 Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.

-- Israel Augustine Middle School, 425 S. Broad St.

-- Sarah T. Reed High School, 5316 Michoud Blvd.

-- Marion Abramson Senior High School, 5552 Read Blvd.

-- L.E. Rabouin Career Magnet School, 727 Carondelet St.

-- O. Perry Walker High School, 2832 Gen. Meyer Ave.

-- New Orleans Mission, 1130 Oretha Castle Haley Blvd.

-- William Frantz School, 3811 N. Galvez St.

Cook also said streetcar service on St. Charles Avenue and Canal Street will be replaced by buses in case power goes out.

Generally, RTA regular service will continue until the weather doesn't allow it or a curfew is imposed by city officials, she said.

(snip)

Without having to be told, The RTA went into action and followed plans it had been given and did what it was supposed to do.

Had the mayor thought more about the safety of the residents of his city then that of himself and his family(flown out on sunday to Baton Rouge) he could have sent the RTA and the Orleans Parish schools buses to Baton Rouge or elsewhere as well.


249 posted on 09/05/2005 4:45:43 AM PDT by usmcobra
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To: The Inspector

bump


250 posted on 09/05/2005 9:13:50 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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