Rapes in New Orleans Chaos Were Avoidable

women's enews ^ | 04 September 2005 | Nancy Cook Lauer

[TheOtherOne]

You, and people like you are one of the reasons the Red Cross and Salvation Army couldn't go into New Orleans to help refugees. They did not have the law enforcement resources to maintain law and order in those shelters so rather than be blamed for the rapes and murders that occurred, they stayed away, and so many people that they could have helped died as a result. Communism kills again. Your self righteous indignation is not helpful.

Get a clue and stop making shit up blaming me for deaths. You are a piece of work. The RC and SA were not kept out of NO due to lack of police. They were kept out so as not to encourage people to stay during the evacuation. Further, I am talking about ordinary citizens who have those obligations as a member of a civilized society. Exactly the opposite of your claim that I think the RC and SA should bear the responsibility.

[monday]

"Further, I am talking about ordinary citizens who have those obligations as a member of a civilized society. Exactly the opposite of your claim that I think the RC and SA should bear the responsibility."

Amnesty International was blaming the Red Cross and the Salvation Army not ordinary citizens. The post you replied to said;

"Relief organizations are CHARITIES, and as such, have NO obligations whatsoever.Goddamned communists in AI."

The article said;

"Relief groups have an obligation to make vulnerable populations a top priority when planning and operating shelters, said Sheila Dauer, director of women's human rights for Amnesty International USA..."

I don't know where you got the idea we were discussing the obligations of ordinary citizens, but that isn't the case.

[KC_Conspirator]

The mayor at a minimum could have secured the Superdome with police and city workers. He failed to even do that.

[TheOtherOne]

I don't know where you got the idea we were discussing the obligations of ordinary citizens, but that isn't the case.

Read what I wrote. Don't make up stuff that I never said about charities. Don't change the meaning of my posts, they are self-sufficient. I made a comment about society, not charities, having obligations. Get over yourself.

[TheOtherOne]

"You, and people like you are one of the reasons the Red Cross and Salvation Army couldn't go into New Orleans to help refugees. . . people that they could have helped died as a result."

And tell us, please, why you think I am responsible. You have the gall to blame me for deaths based on my single comment , "Common decency and civility is an obligation. And it includes to make sure women are not raped. Sorry you think that is communism." Yeah, you are a real deep thinker.

[RWCon]

Most likely, it was to keep the riff-raff out of Chicago and
Detroit and Los Angeles,wheere generous welfare was attracting
them. This was why the Feds did it.

[1tin_soldier]

All of our universities have been so dumbed down that "college educated" has very little weight.

With me it is practically weightless.

The question I have is how many blacks can achieve a college education and make over 50k even with the greatest guilt-based attempt to give them both on a platter in the history of the world?

I believe fewer than could've achieved it without it being offered as a gift. Which would explain, to a degree why they come up short.

I am honest, and fully recognize the repeated and prolonged failures and don't adhere to the belief that races and cultures are intrinsically equal in particular abilities, but only in the eyes of their Creator. However, I firmly believe that all races and peoples are capable, in this country, of securing a college education and/or earning 50k/year, provided no one has convinced them they aren't capable and they are willing to put forth the neccessary effort. Sadly, certain cultures have been convinced that something or someone other than themselves and their own actions are holding them down.

The reason the people in New Orleans are so pathetic is because they are stupid; the vast majority of poor people are also quite stupid, that's why they are disproportionately poor.

You'll get no argument from me here other than to say other factors come into the equation. You can be brilliant, but if you're lazy you'll likely be poor; you can be stupid, but if you work really hard at something others value, you'll achieve financial success. Like John Wayne said, "Life is tough, life is tougher if you're stupid". I would add that if you stay in a coastal town that sits below sea-level with a cat-5 hurricane approaching, life is going to be tougher.

Blacks are about a full quintile behind other races, cognitively, and are subsequently poor as well.

While this may or may not be true, I would simply say that it is largly irrelevant as to the question of poverty; people are paid to produce, not to be cognitive.

Be well.